Wearing a mask is just common sense

[lenny]

Just like wearing a condom. It protects both the user & others from infection.

"... masks are effective at capturing droplets, which is a main transmission route of coronavirus, and some studies have estimated a roughly fivefold protection versus no barrier alone..."

I feel safer with it on. After all, it has been reported the virus can remain airborne for hours. So when someone sneezes or coughs it into the air, it may be flying around for hours, onto people's lips, into people's mouths, on or in people's noses, around or on people's eyeballs, etc.

A mask also offers protection against COVID-19 mutations, influenza, & the like that may arise in the future.

 

[VanessainVictoria]

So what about the doctors that say you should be saving those masks for health care professionals who actually need them?

 

[chico1]

Just like wearing a condom. It protects both the user & others from infection.

"... masks are effective at capturing droplets, which is a main transmission route of coronavirus, and some studies have estimated a roughly fivefold protection versus no barrier alone..."

I feel safer with it on. After all, it has been reported the virus can remain airborne for hours. So when someone sneezes or coughs it into the air, it may be flying around for hours, onto people's lips, into people's mouths, on or in people's noses, around or on people's eyeballs, etc.

A mask also offers protection against COVID-19 mutations, influenza, & the like that may arise in the future.

I really recommend to watch this video. It is long, but it will explain reasonably everything you need to know about what to do and how to protect yourself. Including why a mask does not really protect you, but why it might make sense to wear them. And why will homemade masks work just as fine as N95s.
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?284824-A-must-watch-regarding-Covid

 

[stinkynuts]

Masks are extremely effective. Look at the curves of all the Asian countries that use them: Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, S. Korea.

These are all densely populate countries that use mass transit, yet their curves are all flat. Every other major countriy is showing exponential growth (except Russia which closed its borders early on).

Masks are effective because they capture the droplets that contain the virus when you cough and sneeze. They also block these droplets from entering your face.

Also, it prevents contmination of your face when you touch it. This in turn, prevents germs from being transferred to your face to surfaces which infect others.

The media here is saying that mask are not effective. That there are no studies that prove they work. This is bullshit. There are. Also, just because there are no studies that prove they don't work, doesn't mean they don't. They never mention that there are no studies that prove they DON'T work.

Finally, the WHO and CDC contradict themselves. They say mask don't protect you from getting germs, but that if you are caring for someone infected, you need to use one. If they don't work, why would you need one?? And I guess doctors and nurses don't need them since they don't work?

Here's the truth. There is a shortage of masks, and the medical community knows it. They don't want the general public to use them because then their medical staff will be in danger, which is happening. But you need to be selfish and think for your own health. And fuck what they say. These are are the same people who said that cigarettes weren't dangerous and didn't cause cancer.

If you're on an airplane and sitting with other people, it's a courtesy to be wearing a mask, not just for your protection, but for the peace of mind of your fellow passengers. They don't know if yoou're infected and neither do you. It just takes one cough or sneeze and they could get the virus and die from it. Also, you coudl touch your face and then the armerest and spread the virus. Protect others and yourselves and wear a mask.

I can't believe how many people are still not wearing masks in public!!

 

[Cock Throppled]

I can't believe how many people are still not wearing masks in public!!

Because you not only look like a tool, are wasting a mask someone who needs it could use, and even N95 masks are not effective after your breath saturates it - in about 20 minutes, but they are best used by somebody who has a cough or sneezes, so it protects others.

Other, cloth masks and whatever you decide to strap over your nose are as good as useless.

Virtually no health authority says they do anything but give a false sense of security.

 

[Robert Upndown]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ect-me-from-coronavirus-covid-19-myths-busted

A mask will not protect you from Covid-19 It is passed on by droplets or as an Aerosol. It lives on almost everything. A mask protects me from you, but is useless a preventative measure. It can be absorbed through your eyes, any exposed skin can be infected by touching a surface with your hand, gloves or not, and touching any exposed skin. A fun fact: A mask will actually make you touch your face more often because of you be adjusting the mask perhaps many times in a hour, to make the mask seal is tight or whatever!

Wear a mask, don't where a mask. But don't be delusional thinking it does anything to protect you from Covid-19. If you must wear one, wear it to protect others!

Bob

 

[PabloS]

The weight of the evidence suggests that the new coronavirus can exist as an aerosol — a physics term meaning a liquid or solid (the virus) suspended in a gas (like air) — only under very limited conditions, and that this transmission route is not driving the pandemic. But “limited” conditions does not mean “no” conditions. It's just in rare situations. The masks help protect me from someone who happens to sneeze or cough that might be infected. It's not 100%, nothing is. The people who think the mask protects only one way by wearing it are the ones who are delusional. It's typically those in the west who feel uncomfortable seeing anyone wearing the mask. Hence such a rise in hostile behavior within the USA toward Asians. Furthermore, a large portion of men dismiss the virus to a large extent.

 

[Lo-ki]

Just like wearing a condom. It protects both the user & others from infection.

"... masks are effective at capturing droplets, which is a main transmission route of coronavirus, and some studies have estimated a roughly fivefold protection versus no barrier alone..."

I feel safer with it on. After all, it has been reported the virus can remain airborne for hours. So when someone sneezes or coughs it into the air, it may be flying around for hours, onto people's lips, into people's mouths, on or in people's noses, around or on people's eyeballs, etc.

A mask also offers protection against COVID-19 mutations, influenza, & the like that may arise in the future.

Most of the masks I have seen people wear are totally useless......

 

[Miss Hunter]

Most of the masks I have seen people wear are totally useless......

 

[UhOh]

Masks work else medical staff wouldn't be screaming for them. Don't know why its even being debated.
If supply is low medical staff should obviously get priority, thats another topic.

 

[usernamechecksout]

Because you not only look like a tool, are wasting a mask someone who needs it could use, and even N95 masks are not effective after your breath saturates it - in about 20 minutes, but they are best used by somebody who has a cough or sneezes, so it protects others.

Actually, an N95 IS best used by somebody trying to protect themselves. It is meant to protect the wearer by filtering out very small particles. You must have it confused for a surgical mask.

And where are you pulling the 20 minute number from?

 

[lenny]

So what about the doctors that say you should be saving those masks for health care professionals who actually need them?

As in donating - already used - masks to a hospital? Do they really want - used - masks?

If the government wanted these masks & didn't want the public buying them online such as at Amazon.ca, why hasn't the government already purchased all those available at Amazon.ca & other online sellers?

Moreover, a mask to protect against COVID-19 infection doesn't have to be one of those. I believe any reasonable barrier may help & is significantly better than nothing, from scarves to balaclavas, motorcycle helmets with face shield, Halloween masks, full face hockey masks, etc.

Almost everyone should be able to find some sort of a face shield such as those or something similar.

 

[masterblaster]

As in donating - already used - masks to a hospital? Do they really want - used - masks?

If the government wanted these masks & didn't want the public buying them online such as at Amazon.ca, why hasn't the government already purchased all those available at Amazon.ca & other online sellers?

Moreover, a mask to protect against COVID-19 infection doesn't have to be one of those. I believe any reasonable barrier may help & is significantly better than nothing, from scarves to balaclavas, motorcycle helmets with face shield, Halloween masks, full face hockey masks, etc.

Almost everyone should be able to find some sort of a face shield such as those or something similar.

Good idea, wear your motorcycle helmet to the grocery store.

 

[chico1]

Actually, an N95 IS best used by somebody trying to protect themselves. It is meant to protect the wearer by filtering out very small particles. You must have it confused for a surgical mask.

And where are you pulling the 20 minute number from?

Not sure about 20 minutes. But the point is that is not how you get COVID. And if you touch your eyer or ears it might still not protect you. So N95 does not do anything more for general public than a simple home made mask.
Watch this. The same video as above, just on youtube.
https://youtu.be/1P7x0dNQs_I?t=690

 

[masterblaster]

Wish I rode a Harley then I’d have one of those skeleton face bandanas that the faithful ones seem to prefer.

 

[lenny]

Because you not only look like a tool, are wasting a mask someone who needs it could use,

Looks are irrelevant when health & life are in serious danger. And there are many possibilities for masks such that there are more than enough for everyone, as I said & quote myself:

"I believe any reasonable barrier may help & is significantly better than nothing, from scarves to balaclavas, motorcycle helmets with face shield, Halloween masks, full face hockey masks, etc."

"Almost everyone should be able to find some sort of a face shield such as those or something similar."

and even N95 masks are not effective after your breath saturates it - in about 20 minutes,

They are effective according to the following article which says nothing about 20 minute saturation:

"N95 respirators and surgical masks (face masks) are examples of personal protective equipment that are used to protect the wearer from airborne particles and from liquid contaminating the face."

https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/...-face-masks#s4

Furthermore, as i mentioned above, there are many other alternate barriers that can be used & effectively block virus particles, including those with surfaces of hard plastic, thick cloth, & other materials.

Other, cloth masks and whatever you decide to strap over your nose are as good as useless.

Virtually no health authority says they do anything but give a false sense of security.

Wrong. See above.

 

[lenny]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ect-me-from-coronavirus-covid-19-myths-busted

A mask will not protect you from Covid-19 It is passed on by droplets or as an Aerosol.

Actually your article states the opposite re droplets:

"...masks are effective at capturing droplets, which is a main transmission route of coronavirus, and some studies have estimated a roughly fivefold protection versus no barrier alone..."

And, as for aerosols, it depends on the type of mask. Aerosols probably won't penetrate through glass or solid plastic & similar type of materials, as in e.g. a motorcycle full face see through shield or a home made mask made of such materials.

A mask protects me from you, but is useless a preventative measure.

Not true. See above.

It can be absorbed through your eyes, any exposed skin can be infected by touching a surface with your hand, gloves or not, and touching any exposed skin.

Can you provide a source that supports your claim of infection by merely "touching a surface with your hand"? OTOH, this says that hand needs to also touch the eyes, nose or mouth:

"It may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes, but this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads."

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html

A fun fact: A mask will actually make you touch your face more often because of you be adjusting the mask perhaps many times in a hour, to make the mask seal is tight or whatever!

That depends on the mask & how careful a person is. Furthermore, what does it matter if you touch your face, as long as it isn't your eyes, nose or mouth? Moreover, if you have an itch on your face, a mask may allow you to scratch it without touching your face directly, especially if you are wearing gloves. Also, how is the virus going to penetrate water proof gloves?

Wear a mask, don't where a mask. But don't be delusional thinking it does anything to protect you from Covid-19. If you must wear one, wear it to protect others!

Bob

Actually, & again, from your article:

"...masks are effective at capturing droplets, which is a main transmission route of coronavirus, and some studies have estimated a roughly fivefold protection versus no barrier alone..."

Also why shouldn't everyone wear a mask "to protect others"? Can you say for sure you don't have the virus? Have you been tested?

 

[Cock Throppled]

Looks are irrelevant when health & life are in serious danger. And there are many possibilities for masks such that there are more than enough for everyone, as I said & quote myself:

"I believe any reasonable barrier may help & is significantly better than nothing, from scarves to balaclavas, motorcycle helmets with face shield, Halloween masks, full face hockey masks, etc."

"Almost everyone should be able to find some sort of a face shield such as those or something similar."



They are effective according to the following article which says nothing about 20 minute saturation:

"N95 respirators and surgical masks (face masks) are examples of personal protective equipment that are used to protect the wearer from airborne particles and from liquid contaminating the face."

https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/...-face-masks#s4

Furthermore, as i mentioned above, there are many other alternate barriers that can be used & effectively block virus particles, including those with surfaces of hard plastic, thick cloth, & other materials.



Wrong. See above.

Unless you around someone coughing and sneezing, they aren't needed. The droplets in the air if someone has been stupid enough to openly cough or sneeze without making any attempt to cover it, will dissipate in most locations where you aren't in close contact with others, but that's not the main way of transmission, anyway. It's touching your face - eyes, nose mouth with hands that have touched a taiinted surface.

I got the 20 minutte thing from a paramedic, who said they have been told to wear them no longer than 20 minutes because of breath vapour degradation, but they usually discard even more often. I see that they can be worn longer, but that's health workers, who know how to properly fit them.

As for scarves, balaclavas, etc I wonder how often they'd be cleaned.

I'm sure a few layers of Saran wrap would work, too. At least until you suffocate.

You may have noticed how many people in China use face masks. It's where the CV-19 started, and the masks didn't stop the spread. Even health care workers using masks sometimes get infected, so rather than protect, it might give a false sense of securrity, but hey, if you think it will do something for you, or you're forced into a crowded situation, go for it.

I have a few N95 masks, but I haven't found myself in any situation where I needed them.

 

[chico1]

Another video everyone should watch before continuing to talk about things they don't really understand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJpt6Bse0j8&feature=share

 

[lenny]

Put tape over the nose & mouth holes to seal them & that could be an effective mask. Even better with goggles or something to protect the eyes of the person wearing it.