Warning: Photography 100

[Irresistible Isabelle]

Here is the rest of the story.

Tianna and MJ are buddies. MJ revealed that yes not only did I wear a wig for the photoshoot, but that I shaved my head (I don't know if she knows why). The only reason why she even knows that in the first place is that she and I did a photoshoot with some friends of mine and it came up in conversation then. She knew it was private and confidential.

Cut to Sandi's party and a VERY sloppy drunk Tianna informs me that she knows about the wig AND the shave thing. I told her to keep it quiet between her and not tell anyone BECAUSE it makes me identifiable.

There is more to the story that happened after that but I'm not comfortable revealing more at this point. Comment Tianna?

 

[TotallyTouchin]

Wow

This goes BEYOND indiscretion. This is an out and out attempt to hurt this ladys' buisness at this point.

HOW..HOW does devulging this ladys personal information in such a callous and unprofessional way deem to make this situation better for P100???? One answer- it doesn't.

Imagine say..just for the sake of arguement...that Vancouver Derek got on here and said "yeah um I photographed so and so and GOD HER ASS WAS HUGE before she got on Hydroxycut so now I recommend it to all my clients with huge asses!"

HE WOULDN'T! Because every girl who read that would recoil in HORROR that he would devulge that information after having done buisness with him. (This is no way a shameless Derek plug but I am making an example of a reputatable SP insider who no doubt has a bit of dirt and would NEVER disclose it...)

Isabelle does NOT deserve this treatment. Devulging personal information is a bell that can never ever be unrung. Simply appaulling.

It should make everyone wonder...if this should happen to her....what is being said about YOU behind your back??? Or worse..eventually disclosed in public.

I am shocked.

 

[luv-em-n-lv-em]

Suggestion to anyone with a P100 website

Change your PERB password NOW!

 

[Miss*Bijou]

i agree!

Change your PERB password NOW!

... well except for Tianna

 

[TheRater]

http://www.internetprivacyadvocate.org/ProtectYourPersonalInfo.htm

http://www.networksolutions.com/domain-name-registration/private.jsp

Both of these offer excellent advice. Not only do you get your e-mail maked but you also get your name masked as well. You retain ownership and are able to make any changes you need, and at the same time allow someone to work with you on designing/hosting a site.

Having said that, the repeated references to how "cheap" it is to have/host a website lead directly to problems like this.

A truly reputeable web designer, that is, one who understands ownership, understands privacy and confidentiality (often by having signed non-disclosure agreements) and can do more than just a static linked page or basic java or flash is both hard to find (the truly good ones are insanely busy) and, I am happy to say (for me at least) very well paid. As a ballpark figure, for design (plus graphic design but not actual photography) will often cost an average of $500 to $800 a page for you to actually own the design as well as the content. Remember this part, it is very important.

Further to that, do not ever trust anyone else than you to administer anything other than your website design. Good hosting companies allow and assist you in designing security to your website such that your e-mail is separate from your website itself, and the most your designer can do is upload the design and edit the pages. From this, the most you can ever lose is the most recent version of your site if everything goes turnip shaped, and then you call up your hosting company, have the designers password changed and then restore or have restored the website.

Good luck either way.

- TR

 

[luv-em-n-lv-em]

I have just had the time to catch up on here, after reading the other board, and will say that I would have never ever made such a post ! I think that it along with all the rest should be taken down.. actually there is no need to have any of this reposted, the whole thing should be deleted. and cleared right off the board along with the other board as well!

I'd be really interested in your reasoning for these proposed actions.

Who would benefit?

Izzy? Well I agree that the personal information should be removed, but she has a good point about P100 don't you think?

You? You may well be mostly innocent - people saying unfortunate things while plastered isn't exactly surprising is it? And in saying it, you actually did Iz a favour by letting her know that P100 was being indiscreet (at best)

P100? Would be the biggest beneficiary of deleting this thread. And not deserving at all. Deleting this thread would be a public dis-service, especially if any other P100 client is similarly abused as a result.

Edit: So to be clear - no public apology to Iz or repudiation of P100? No call for P100 to give Iz her site back. Tianna - do the right thing - take a stand instead of just trying to sweep it under the rug.

 

[owz]

Just logged on and stumbled upon this thread.

Izzy. I have also shaved my head once, to show support for someone going through cancer. Even as a guy, this was not an easy thing for me to do. I am impressed by the display of solidarity that you have shown in order to go through with something like that. Don't know if my opinion of you can be any higher than it is right now. Hope that your friend, who has since relapsed, is going to pull through. I know that he/she is a lucky to have someone like you. An immovable pillar of strength.

Tiana. Seriously, girl. You really need to reassess your allegiance to this so called "friend" of yours. It is misplaced. Allowing P100 access to your terf password is at best naive. Truth be told, your lapse in judgment has already cost you any of my future business. Period. In this industry where discretion is vital, how can I trust that you are going to be able to keep my private information secure? Especially if you are not the only one with access to it... If P100 has used your account to post.... what other information has she gotten a hold of? Your actions from herein will have a direct impact on how the pooning community views you as a SP. Can they trust you not to compromise them? Just between you and I, the things that you had mentioned during our 1 and only session together are beginning to make sense to me. Finally... Thankfully, like the untrusting bastard that I am, I had taken the precaution of making sure that both my email address and telephone are disposable if they should be compromised.

P100. You do solid work. Unfortunately the code of ethics that you abide by, does not much up with your talent with photoshop. How else can you explain hijacking one clients account to release private & confidential information of another? If you can do it to these 2 ladies, what else are you capable of? Which of your existing clients are next? Also makes me wondering whether if private information from your client's database are really that secure... Nothing much else you can do other than to 1) continue with this pointless tussle and ruin your reputation COMPLETELY or 2) resolve this in a private & respectful manner, while at the same time reassuring all of your existing clients that this is an isolated incident and will never happen again.

Ladies. There are tons of great web designers and tons of amazing photographers out there. I know coz I deal with them everyday. What's a rare breed... are those professionals that act within a strict code of ethics. PM me if you need help finding one of those.

Peace,
OWZ

 

[owz]

Do like the man says Tianna and own up to being a significant part of this debacle instead of immediately requesting it become a piece of unspoken PERB history.
or history on any other board.

I guess the "betrayal" as began....

Tianna. Don't need you to own up to anything. Just change your passwords and rethink who your friends really are...

 

[TotallyTouchin]

Agreed

about the thread remaining as is because let's face it....you cannot unring a bell.

I have the utmost respect for EVERY girl in this buisness (even the nutty ones who have seemed to have LOST THE PLOT on other boards )...simply because I can relate to alot of the ups and downs and I think that taking a break is vital...but I digress.

Here's the thing though. Tianna really is being compromised here...in my opinion...by someone that she sincerely considers to have her best interest in heart (which she may have had at some point)...

But the thing is, in this buisness, you have to protect discretion and your NAME as THE ONLY commonity that you can control. A real friend just simply WOULD NOT have used Tianna's account to post a reply, her name (describing her as drunk) nor involved Tianna in any way because a REAL friend would recognise the care and work Tianna has put into building her reputation....I see Tianna being USED here as a scapegoat for just plain BAD BUISNESS on the part of P100.

I have no doubt that P100 does some great work as I have seen some great examples but perhaps what this person fails to understand is the BE ALL AND END ALL in this buisness is DISCRETION.

Girls will ask themselves in the future...would I rather have a very polished photoshopping site with wicked banners etc...OR is it more important to me to ENSURE that I pick a company who will not turn around and spread rumours of me being bald or the like while compromising myself and my clients discretion???

As a girl who has worked in this buisness for a while now, seen many super high profile clients and has breifly even had my own escort service, I can say WITHOUT A DOUBT, I would choose the discretion part. And my educated GUESS would be that the clients would MUCH prefer a less polished site and know that their private messages and emails remain in only the discreet ladys capable hands...and not in a random website designer/host.

I just have to say that I was COMPLETELY offput seeing Tiannas signature used on another site by this person. My immediate reaction was feeling BAD for Tianna...and shocked at the tact of the P100 people.

I hope that Tianna does not get further thrown under this trainwreck, that P100 sees that Isabelle is entitled to what she has asked for and also issues a public apology in good faith.

The thing is, this is a forgiving buisness. P100 would be WELL advised in my opinion to issue a public apology for this servere lapse in judgement, not to mention changing her "buisness" practises. Friendship and buisness do not mix. Tianna is trying to be there for her friend I think. But the deal is that this is buisness- and P100 compromised Tianna's buisness. In a perfect world we can all be best friends with our buisness people but hey...ya gotta know where to draw the line and when that buisness and discretion is involved- the friendship is a far far third...

It has not been fair to either lady (being Izzie first and foremost of course and Tianna as well) in my personal opinion.

 

[Irresistible Isabelle]

Thanks all for the support.

I hate what a mess this has become. Let this be a lesson to those who want to both HIRE and FIRE MJ of photography 100.

Tianna... while I expect YOU would like all of this swept under the rug it's not going to happen. You had a LARGE LARGE LARGE part in all of this, the majority of which I have not and will not will not go into.... because I don't reveal people's personal info. **************************************************************************************************************** ****************************************************************************************************************

I do want the revealed personal information removed from said threads and I would like them locked and I do not want my info repeated ever again - eh mods?!

 

[edmontonsubbie]

wow...

...this is all so very "dramatic". Before anyone slams me too hard....i have been guilty of spitting out my own drama.....i love it!

eddie.

 

[stryker]

Do like the man says Tianna and own up to being a significant part of this debacle instead of immediately requesting it become a piece of unspoken PERB history.

or history on any other board.

Wow,,now who is saying this??it sure dosn't sound like Tianna

 

[stryker]

Photo 100,,,pay attention.
Might I suggest you explain yourself as to what has transpired.
As you say,,your world wide ,,Would be a shame if your rep was spread world wide now wouldn't it

 

[Irresistible Isabelle]

forgot to add the little extra bits

"I told you if you defend MJ in my threads I will out you!''

QUOTED AND taken from the other board by isabella

I did not start this thread nor did I add or contribute before the bits I said today, I was really enjoying my quiet weekend at home !

You know very well what I mean by this - that I will out you for your role in what has happened. YOU ARE THE REASON WHY I FIRED P-100 AND YOU KNOW IT!!!

 

[JustCallMeR]

Photo 100,,,pay attention.
Might I suggest you explain yourself as to what has transpired

Hi Stryker, it may be a little confusing as Photo 100 DID respond, it's just that her post has since been deleted.

In a nutshell she did not deny deactivating the web site and not turning over the web site code. She didn't confirm it either, she just said that Isabella started the battle and that everyone else was very happy with her services and then used the opportunity to publicly reveal personal and confidential information about Isabella.

That's when the mood turned really ugly...

 

[luv-em-n-lv-em]

Tianna, when are you going to do something constructive to help resolve this situation and just possibly halt the damage to your reputation.

I can understand if you are reluctant to deal with P100 (since she probably controls your site the way she controlled Isabelle's), but frankly at this point you have few options. The other option is to sacrifice your reputation on PERB and T*RF and with many of your existing clientele who use those sites.

Pick your poison girl and drink up.

 

[owz]

Hi Stryker, it may be a little confusing as Photo 100 DID respond, it's just that her post has since been deleted.

Another one of the famous PERB disappearing acts.
Nice. It's like it never happened....

 

[Very Veronica]

I think everyone should stop wiggin out.

 

[owz]

forgot to add the little extra bits
"I told you if you defend MJ in my threads I will out you!''
QUOTED AND taken from the other board by isabella
I did not start this thread nor did I add or contribute before the bits I said today, I was really enjoying my quiet weekend at home !

We sink deeper into the shit hole that you have dug yourself.
(and I was starting to feel bad for you too)
Figure most people would have learnt from the whole JetBlue debacle...

 

[chilli]

"forgot to add the little extra bits
"I told you if you defend MJ in my threads I will out you!''
QUOTED AND taken from the other board by isabella
I did not start this thread nor did I add or contribute before the bits I said today, I was really enjoying my quiet weekend at home !"

We sink deeper into the shit hole that you have dug yourself.
(and I was starting to feel bad for you too)
Figure most people would have learnt from the whole JetBlue debacle...

Sorry buddy you are wayyyy off base.

And I'm calling you on it.

No person provider or customer should EVER threaten to out someone in this business.

For Isabella to do this - is low really low.

Isabella keep your disputes to yourself, geez poor Tianna.