VPD cracking down on cyclists without helmets
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Funny I never see them going after crackheads, those guys are rolling about all nite, the cops don't bother with them at all.[/QUOTE
Since when has the law required crackheads to wear helmets
Hey that could be a new bylaw. Crackheads have to wear helmets and the homeless have to wear big orange vests with the reflective X on it. It would give the cops something to do and they are easier to catch than people on bikesFunny I never see them going after crackheads, those guys are rolling about all nite, the cops don't bother with them at all.[/QUOTE
Since when has the law required crackheads to wear helmets
It probably is a revenue thing. A guy with 500-sky's the limit $$ bike will pay the $35, it is just a pain in the ass.
I know with Automobile and Motorcycle tickets if you don't pay them they stick you at renewal time. How do they enforce it for Bicycles? Particularly for those that don't have driver's licenses as none are required for bicycles.
I think they stopped 15 or so years ago but in Calgary if you had a ticket that went over 3 months (expiring all the grace periods) the police would phone your house, then if you didn't pay in a week and they had nothing better to do, they would come an arrest you. You could pay the ticket as soon as you got to the police station but there was a huge embarrassment/inconvenience factor. I only know one person it happened to and I think he had 20 or so outstanding parking tickets. Now I think it is the same as here and they hit you at license/plate renewal time.
Like minds darlin....Hey that could be a new bylaw. Crackheads have to wear helmets and the homeless have to wear big orange vests with the reflective X on it. It would give the cops something to do and they are easier to catch than people on bikes
It probably is a revenue thing. A guy with 500-sky's the limit $$ bike will pay the $35, it is just a pain in the ass.
I know with Automobile and Motorcycle tickets if you don't pay them they stick you at renewal time. How do they enforce it for Bicycles? Particularly for those that don't have driver's licenses as none are required for bicycles.
I think they stopped 15 or so years ago but in Calgary if you had a ticket that went over 3 months (expiring all the grace periods) the police would phone your house, then if you didn't pay in a week and they had nothing better to do, they would come an arrest you. You could pay the ticket as soon as you got to the police station but there was a huge embarrassment/inconvenience factor. I only know one person it happened to and I think he had 20 or so outstanding parking tickets. Now I think it is the same as here and they hit you at license/plate renewal time.
I too think homeless people and those unable to obey basic traffic/pedestrian laws should have to wear vests. A few years ago, on a very dark, rainy winter night, at 2 am, a crackhead, covered in black heafty bag rainwgear, RAN out all doubled over and chasing his pipe RIGHT in front of my car. I slammed on the breaks and he popped up like a whack-a-mole totally surprised to see my car. Thank god I was only going about 30km after being stopped on a red or I'd never have been able to stop in time. I thought my heart was going to explode! I technically wouldn't have been my fault as it was mid-block and he literally RAN, but how do you live with yourself if you do hit them?
I've always felt that you should need a license for anything with wheels that hits a road including scooters & bikes. Though they are unlikely to do much damage, they are very likely to CAUSE accidents involving larger vehicles which do cause damage.
1. You should need to take a road safety course, get a license & have plates on your bike/scooter/whatnot. All of which should be either free or of nominal charge and the rebate should more than cover the cost.
2. Helmets should be enforced. If you have some form of headdress that makes standard helmets impossible to wear, it's up to the ingenuity of that religious/cultural group in question to design and develop road safe helmets that accommodate said headdresses. Your personal religious belief do not make it the province/country's obligation to financially cover your life long disability or death because you would not comply with basic safety. Can't wear the gear, get off the road.
3. WAY more bike routes and no riding on main roads, especially in rush hour, unless there is a designated bike lane.
4. Equip all public transit with bike storage to encourage people to Ride and Ride, rather than Park and Ride.
5. MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR tax rebate as incentive that would cover all costs of licensing.
Helmets dont do much good. Wearing a helmet is not even close in prevention, say, to wearing a seat belt. A cyclist always loses when he comes into contact with a vehicle or if lands hard on pavement. A helmet is nothing more than a false sense of security. Maybe someone is lucky enough to survive a crash or fall because he was wearing a helmet. The difference may be minor: a vegetable vs a para/quadraplagic. That's not much benefit in wearing a helmet in my books.
Besides, common sense prevails when riding any vehicle or bicycle. But, hey, we as a society don't have common sense so we wait for someone else to tell us what they think common sense is and then apply that as our own.
Besides, common sense prevails when riding any vehicle or bicycle. But, hey, we as a society don't have common sense so we wait for someone else to tell us what they think common sense is and then apply that as our own.
I disagree. Yes if you get hit by a car you lose. If you get bumped or take a spill wearing a helmet will probably save your life as your head bounces off the road/curb/lamp post/etc.. Wearing a helmet still won't stop broken bones, spinal injuries etc but they do offer reasonable head protection.
Not really. For one thing, you assume that everyone is wearing their helmet correctly and has the right size.
Secondly, if the person does not have any major ill effects from coming into contact with the pavement or lamp post etc while wearing a helmet then it's highly unlikely that he will have suffered much injury to being with. It's pretty slim odds that you'll land on your head in the first place. Also, most helmets don't protect against neck injury. It's highly unlikely and improbably that your life will be saved by wearing one. However, just for the sake of argument, say it is spared, you'll be paralyzed. That's not any kind of life.
Thirdly, except maybe when it comes to children, helmets in general don't offer you much protection. Helmets themselves have limited utility, being useful only for preventing minor abrasions to the head. In other countries and in the usa, where there are bicycle helmet laws, the laws usually apply to children only not adults. People are already pissed off because they're reluctant to ride a bike worrying that they're going get fined for not wearing a helmet. Thus ridership will decline.
Fourthly, an hour of bicycling causes fewer serious head injuries than an hour of walking. Think bicycling is dangerous? Try the safety quiz at the Bicycling Life website. Think helmet laws work? Visit the “cyclehelmets” website.
Finally, to further add insult, to avoid getting a ticket by VPD for not wearing a helmet, all you have to do is to have it on your head, barely strapped on. Now, doesn't that, in theory, defeat the purpose of the law?
Secondly, if the person does not have any major ill effects from coming into contact with the pavement or lamp post etc while wearing a helmet then it's highly unlikely that he will have suffered much injury to being with. It's pretty slim odds that you'll land on your head in the first place. Also, most helmets don't protect against neck injury. It's highly unlikely and improbably that your life will be saved by wearing one. However, just for the sake of argument, say it is spared, you'll be paralyzed. That's not any kind of life.
Thirdly, except maybe when it comes to children, helmets in general don't offer you much protection. Helmets themselves have limited utility, being useful only for preventing minor abrasions to the head. In other countries and in the usa, where there are bicycle helmet laws, the laws usually apply to children only not adults. People are already pissed off because they're reluctant to ride a bike worrying that they're going get fined for not wearing a helmet. Thus ridership will decline.
Fourthly, an hour of bicycling causes fewer serious head injuries than an hour of walking. Think bicycling is dangerous? Try the safety quiz at the Bicycling Life website. Think helmet laws work? Visit the “cyclehelmets” website.
Finally, to further add insult, to avoid getting a ticket by VPD for not wearing a helmet, all you have to do is to have it on your head, barely strapped on. Now, doesn't that, in theory, defeat the purpose of the law?
its my individual freedom to choose whether or not to wear a helmet. if i get injured than its my fault. its my body no one has the right to tell me how to treat it. my god we are such sheep.....
Given the logic of your remarks in this thread, I would venture to say that you've already had an accident on your bike without wearing a helmet and are suffering the consequences of your neglect.
I disagree. In my cas e a helmet did a lot of good.
I was riding in higest gear with a tailwind. A dog came out of nowhere and lunged at my bike. That is all I remember. When I woke up I was lying in the street with a cracked helmet and part of a dog's leg near my bike. The dog's paw had lodged in the spokes and was severed when the spokes could not pass the fork. Inertia carried me forward as the rear of my bike lifted up and sent me flying. I guess that is what happened as I was at least 15 yards from the bike. Nothing anyone will say could convince me that a helmet made no difference.
You can still choose not to wear it and just pay the fines, $35 isn't all that much even if you get nailed a couple times a month. I know someone who does that with the seatbelt law and the local cops have stopped giving her tickets now as it doesn't help.No it isn't your individual choice, there is a law that says you must wear it. You could be getting a tasering with that attitude
Do you feel better now that you made an attempt in trying to put someone down so you could feel better? Or will you just carry on and continue to feed your egoic mind and body by posting elsewhere here or in some other forum? It's pretty obvious of the answer.
the authorities dont have authority to tell me what to wear on my head. even if its a law its a bullshit law. go taser yourself Hubba
you tell em silky!
what else is the man going to do to us?
Make us wear seatbelts?
tell us we can't let our kids sit on our laps when we drive?
tell us we can't let the kids ride in the pickup truck bed down the freeway?
Make us use headlights at night?
Its getting crazy out here, time for the revolution!!!
what else is the man going to do to us?
Make us wear seatbelts?
tell us we can't let our kids sit on our laps when we drive?
tell us we can't let the kids ride in the pickup truck bed down the freeway?
Make us use headlights at night?
Its getting crazy out here, time for the revolution!!!
there are LAWS in place to keep things in place and there are laws that are BS. Just because someone is an authority/lawmaker does that mean if they say the sun didnt come up today are they right? they DONT have the right to interfere with how u live your life. how you ride your bike. what u eat. how about permission to hug/kiss/change your own child. http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2008/062608_government_permission.htm
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