vfm blues

[sevenofnine]

i recently broke up with my long term girl. like in years.
she is a nice lady hell of a nice lady, i consider her a friend, though she is pissed at me now,
don't blame her,
but it came done basiclly to a question of value for money,\
i felt i wasn't getting enough, so i moved on.
that simple,

i was paying like seven for multiply hours, but the sex was getting like less and less.
we started off at about fifty percent of our time together was talk, just nice comfortable talk, and fifty play time,
reading the reviews of the lady, its about normal,
i felt i wanted more play time, so i went for another hour on to hour time, but the sex actually got less.
after one bad session, i saw another local lady, and she simply blew me away,
from the moment i walked through the door, she started undressing me, and it went from there,
play time was like 90 percent, it was incrediable.
second date was pretty much the same mabye 80 percent playtime,

out of loyaltiy i returned to the first lady, we had a couple of nice times, before christmas, actually really nice times, still around fifty fifty, but she really knows how to push my buttons,

over christmas we emailed a few times and i set up like a month of visits with her one a week, for seven.

after the first session, i got home and just said to hell with this emailed her, and cancelled it all,
it felt like i was on my first blind data, wondering if i was going to get a kiss, or could i brush up againest her chest,
she seemed totally reluctuant to do anything, and brushed all my suggestions and attempts aside,
and i had been seeing her and paying her for a couple of years, for seven i got a reluctant fifteen minute bj, it was mediocore at best.
im sorry i like the lady alot,
but im not going to continue to pay seven for a poor bj, and little else.

im sorry for her, i realize its a finicial hit for her a couple grand lost in a month, she is getting older has a limited menue,
and i do like her, but for christ sakes, she knows what i like, i emailed her and told her after one of our good sessions, that was the best, but from that point on she wouldn't give it to me.
but i cann't see myself paying seven for fifteen minutes or so of fun, when another lady literally goes on me non stop, has given me one of the best bj's around,
has a nice shaved pussy, which is a visual delight, as well as very nice to suck on,
where the first lady has a bush, that gets in the way, gives me a mouth full of hair, and she is reluctant to give it up.

i don't know i think im easy to please,
im an older guy, i get my one shot on goal barely some days, its not like im a young stud, going to go down on a girl long and hard so she walks funny after ward,
but i like a slow strip tease, some fore play, some oral, some mutal satisfaction, and usually finish with a nice bj,
for seven is that asking to much,
it seems it is for her,
for her all that amounts to less then half an hour, when im booking two three or more, doesnt matter how many hours i book, its hard to get her moving,
for my second girl, what i want takes her in a two hour session,
about an hour and forty five or so, of pure bliss. only coming up for air once in awhile.

so just out of curiosty,
how much time do you think should be spent on play time and simple conversation. for a regular client,

my first response is, for a regular client, he can have 100 percent all play if that is what he wants. what ever he wants as long as its in her menue,

i say this simply because girls just laugh when you mention a social rate,
so no social rate, means 100 percent play time in my book,
but realistic, anything less then ffity and i kind of get annoyed,
like i said im an older guy, im not going to ride her until she is raw, but that doesn't mean i cann't have some nice extended oral fun etc.

i don't know, im curious on your thoughts,
ladies and guys,
whats accpetable and what isn't,
what is enough, or to much,

 

[booblover]

your not married to them so charnge it up and spread the wealth!!

 

[FortunateOne]

I have no idea what you mean when you say "paying seven", multiple hours. Can you just say: $X for X time?.

Anyway, most sps who have options for longer times don't necessarily translate the extra time into extra sogs or anything. It can be a lot of down time. It sounds like, for this particular sp, more time is not a benefit and you can accomplish everything (ssog) you look for in the shorter time. If this is a format she is comfortable with, it is unlikely you are going to be able to change it too much no matter what incentives you offer. If you enjoy her company, see her once a month instead of once a week, and see other more adventurous sps as well.

 

[deslicher]

I hope "seven" means seven greens and not seven browns?
if browns , then we need to have a talk pal!!!

The guy is payin 700$ for a month, 1 visit a week= 4 visits so that means 175 per visit, this seems like a good deal but he's not getting good service anymore, so now it's not a good deal for him. Do you think he's paying 140$ for many hrs of service??? We're not in Costa Rica man.

Holy crap, they're not even married and the sex got worse.....lol

 

[sevenofnine]

seven browns one visit, three hours,
its my over time money from work,
i really don't give a shit how i spend it,
if she would have came through for me, i was prepared to spend that on her once a week for the next month,

if your with a lady and all you can think about is wow, until long after you left her, what ever you paid she was worth it.

there are some ladies, i wouldn't pay for, there are some i wouldn't even if they were free, or paid me,


i was loyal to this lady, i had seen her alot for two years, and yeah she made me go wow, lots of times, its not about the money or value for money,
well until now

i was with her and she seemed so reluctant, to please me,
i realized she really didn't care that much how good a time i had,,
she cared about the money i left her,
and she is an sp for like ten years, so she knows how this works, she owed me my shot on goal, and well thats all it was to her,
we had discussed our sessions what i felt was great, what i wanted, but it really didn't matter to her, it seemed,
just give the john his one shot on goal, and well its over.

when i realized that, it was over, well not over, but i did a pros and cons on her, and gave her a dollar value, and quite frankly i decided to spend my money else where,
it was just that simply, seven to spend, where to spend,
on a lady with a nice shaved pussy, doesn't mind letting me suck it play with it, starts taking my clothes off as soon as i go through her door, and strokes and sucks and kisses, my ego my male memeber for pretty much two hours non stop.

not really any choice in the matter, when i realized how the lady felt, and she was so reluctant, so hesitant.
we called each other friends, saw each other for two years regularlly,
but it just got me an sp, who gave me less then she gave some stranger off of craigs list.

yeah shit lessons learned,
i don't regret it,
my fault really in a way,
she is pissed at me for cancelling and she lost like two grand,
i sent two letters sucking up to her an apologizing,
yeah that is kind of the way i am,

say what i really feel
then spend the rest of my life apolozing for it,

 

[not2old]

If you are looking for a relationship, get a GF.

You are seeing a "service" provider. You work out an arrangement. If the arrangement is no longer working (for either side), you should make a change (renegotiate, relocate).

I know things get comfortable and change can be hard, but if you are going to a session with a mindset that things are not what you are working for, time to make a change.

I have seen a SP several times. I feel comfortable, bring gifts, but it is an arrangement. I am not thinking that this is anything beyond that. She is not a GF. If I bring something extra, it is strictly a sign of appreciation (not affection).

If it no longer feels good, I will adjust as needed. I expect the SP to do the same.

 

[Tar_Man]

loyality vs. service

Gosh Seven, sounds to me like the sp you've been loyal to is sending you a clear message...... it's time to move on.

She lost all interest in you except for the steady income you gave her. I hope you didn't think that you were her SO or anything.

It wasn't a love thing , is it? I've heard that many pooners fall in love with SPs. It's all good, man all luv'n is good luv'n, ideally it should be a 2 way street.

I feel for ya!

Time to move on dude!

 

[sevenofnine]

i agree with your comments on appreciation,
if the lady doesn't appreciate the money you spend on her, and the fact that i have chosen to spend it on her, im out,
its just that simple

but a relationship i don't know,

we called each other friends, me and this lady, and in a way we were, because we talke openly about our lives to each other,
i just got unhappy with her service thats all, not her friendship,

the lady im seeing now,
i call her the energizer bunny she is incrediable in terms of vfm, play time spent, etc, the best i have experianced, not just my opinion, many guys,

any way,
when i was having doubts with my orginal sp, i sought out the energizer bunny,
and just went simply fucking wow, this lady is the best, ok,

any way, we were kicking back on her bed laughing sipping wine, just talking,
my session was over, i had a couple minutes left and a few sips of wine, then i was out.

something came over her, she just felt so close and warm to me, and a sparkle a gentleness in her eyes.
we both just sort of paused for a minute,
and the first thing that came out of my mouth was i was married,

she went oh, we never really talked about it, it was my second time seeing her, and it never came up, and the lady is not big on talking, big on service, and little talking.

but i felt i had to tell her i was married, because i felt somthing,
she just kindof went oh, and thoughtful for a minute, and we carried on for a couple more minutes then i was gone,

my point is, sometimes relationships just happen.
i didn't go into this hobby looking for a relationship, im married, didnt want any complications. just a place with a lady i could go spend a few hours, relax unwind, enjoy, thats all i wanted

i like one girl at a time, i like to get comfortable with her, her to me,
i like several hours as much as i can afford, not
her mininium, one shot on goal, now your done get out,

thats not what i want not what im looking for,
im not rich, but the money i use for this hobby is pretty much just overtime i work for, its extra money its free, some guys work overtime for that sports car they want, or a golf vacation,
i work overtime, i spend it on this hobby, or have last year, anyway,

and if i can afford two and three or four hours with a girl, instead of half an hour or an hour, or in some cases fifteen minutes,
im going to take it.

depends on the lady how much her rates are, some give pretty good discounts for the second and third and fourht hour, some not so much,
but i like longer sessions.

i don't know why i just do, im big on holding a lady and cuddling her, caressing her, all that kind of stuff, and it takes time,
i don't like to rush it,

am i looking for a relationship,
im looking for a friend in a lady, thats for sure, some one i can trust respect,
not just fuck and leave, some one i can talk to,

i know it gets confussing some times,
but i have seen i don't know, fifteen or so ladies in this hobby, and only repeated with a couple or so,

because i need respect for the lady, i need to feel that we could be friends somewhere in the real world, and hang out with a coffee over our fence in the back yard,
i dion't know some people call it chemeistry, what ever,

whatever you want to call it, i need that from a lady, its that a relationship or friendship,
sometimes they get confussed,
and i admit, i was confussed with this lady, i had seen her for two years,
the lines got blurred,

but neither one of us did anything stupid, we talked we emailed we had sessions, we laughed about it,
it wasn't a big deal to either one of us,
because we were both adults, had lives out side this hobby,
and aggreeded both of us, to keep it with in the confines of this hobby,

we got over it, whatever it was,
still carried on, seeing each other,
looked at each other as friends,
sometimes friends have spats break up, thats all,

sad but it happens, in this hobby and the real world as well,


a note on the engergizer bunny,
she was the first lady i ever saw in this hobby and i just went fucking wow,
and so did alot of other guys because there was literally a line up outside her door,

i was nervous and new and married, and the whole stigmatism of being a john and linning up for a lady bothered me,
so i moved on,

the energizer bunny has since slowed down, only works a few days a week takes time off, doesnt advertize keeps it as low key as she can
its tough to get into see her, she doesn't always accpect new clients.
has her days off, and schedual, so you have to fit, in with her schedual.

but she gives incrediable service, she is in her forties now,
and im serious, from the moment i walk through the door,
she is undressing me, she reaches for my male member, and doesn't let go,
in her mouth in her hands inside her, for 90 percent or so of the session.
she just doesn't stop.
quite a contrast to some ladies, who want to talk as long as they can.
and do as little as they can,
she wants to do as much as she can for your entire session,
and guys just go nuts for her,

so a piece of advice to ladies, who cann't keep regualars, and things seem to be slow. maybe you had better give better service,

there is one other lady in my city who by reputation is the same way,
i have never seen her,
but holy cow, she has a loyal following that is simply incrediable, and guys just go on and on about her,


but it is what it is,
ladies isn't it,

you can still get buy giving poor service, and charging lots of money,
because there are alot of horny guys out there,
and the realy good ladies are hard to get into see,

 

[deslicher]

This is whats so difficult sometimes, she's an escort but still human, she probably did care a bit but really it was about the money honey, they have to be a little callous or they wouldn't last emotionally.

BTW, I'm totally confused, you're in your 60's and you had the energizer bunny wondering if you were married??Or did that happen a long time ago....anyway, I would count my blessings if you still get escorts wondering if you are married when your 60.

 

[sevenofnine]

im only fifty something dont rush me,
and the lady is in her forties.
i don;t know i write alot,
some people think im a sissy and two sensitive, the guys do any way,

ladies ask to see me simply because i write lots, and i guess they like what they read, i don't know,
a couple of ladies wanted to get to know me off the clock,
which im reluctant to do,
im not afraid to feel something for a lady,
but im married, i would rather keep everything within the confins of this hobby

the energizer bunny, is tough to get into see, but when i emailed her, it wasn't a problem, she seemed excited to see me,
like i said i write alot about morals and right and wrong in this hobby, some guys hate it, some ladies do to, it bothers them for some reason to be honest.
others lady ask to see me.

and the engerizer bunny was great is great,
we hit it off, fantasticlly actually,

one complaint about her, is she knows when the clock is up,
she gives you her all for that hour or two hours whatever it is,
but i never felt that from her,