Relax Buddy. I'm not against the bikers so take a pill!!!
For your knowledge some of us who don't live DT and go do every once in awhile don't know the areas like yourself being a cyclist. You know it by habit so chill out and have a drink!!!
Vancouver cyclists... WTF?!
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Relax Buddy. I'm not against the bikers so take a pill!!!
For your knowledge some of us who don't live DT and go do every once in awhile don't know the areas like yourself being a cyclist. You know it by habit so chill out and have a drink!!!
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Originally Posted by orem
Then stay in your own lane on your own side! You sound like one of those annoying pedestrians who wanders all over the sidewalk, or stops to have a conversation, just think about it, you are standing on a sidewalk, get it, walk! Why can't people like you figure out to walk on the right, so opposing traffic has somewhere to go, or those of us actually trying to get somewhere have an opportunity to pass. You don't drive like that do you, weaving all over the road from side to side, or suddendly stopping just to scratch your ass?
Originally Posted by orem
Then stay in your own lane on your own side! You sound like one of those annoying pedestrians who wanders all over the sidewalk, or stops to have a conversation, just think about it, you are standing on a sidewalk, get it, walk! Why can't people like you figure out to walk on the right, so opposing traffic has somewhere to go, or those of us actually trying to get somewhere have an opportunity to pass. You don't drive like that do you, weaving all over the road from side to side, or suddendly stopping just to scratch your ass?
Whatever made you think I was a cyclist and know the areas? I was just talking as a pedestrian and nothing specific about DT. The way you described yourself as wandering into the bike lane just reminded of all the idiot walkers I have to deal with on a daily basis. Some of the worst ones are those that look at their feet instead of where they are going.Relax Buddy. I'm not against the bikers so take a pill!!!
For your knowledge some of us who don't live DT and go do every once in awhile don't know the areas like yourself being a cyclist. You know it by habit so chill out and have a drink!!!
As a casual cyclist, my observations of the typical Metro Vancouver cyclist is that h/she is arrogant, self-centered, brazen, and feel they have every right to be on the roads as much as vehicles irregardless of the disruption they may cause.
If they're preventing or slowing the driver down, they don't care. A typical attitude is that you'll just have to be patient and wait however long it takes for you to be able to pass them and they won't move out of the way. If you hit them, you'd better kill them because they will sue the living shit out of you.
My impression is that many cyclists feel that they can go pretty much wherever they want, while pedestrians feel they should be on the road because many of them ride like maniacs and are always in a hurry. They don't need driver's licenses or any other form of bicycle registration that if they injure someone else, they can just fuck off in a hurry. They have no regard for anyone but themselves.
In otherwords, [many] cyclists think they not only "own" the road but they own the land anywhere a cyclist can ride. It's all there for THEIR benefit.
If they're preventing or slowing the driver down, they don't care. A typical attitude is that you'll just have to be patient and wait however long it takes for you to be able to pass them and they won't move out of the way. If you hit them, you'd better kill them because they will sue the living shit out of you.
My impression is that many cyclists feel that they can go pretty much wherever they want, while pedestrians feel they should be on the road because many of them ride like maniacs and are always in a hurry. They don't need driver's licenses or any other form of bicycle registration that if they injure someone else, they can just fuck off in a hurry. They have no regard for anyone but themselves.
In otherwords, [many] cyclists think they not only "own" the road but they own the land anywhere a cyclist can ride. It's all there for THEIR benefit.
I actually don't mind this. It's called the "critical Mass" bike ride and it happens every last friday night of the month during the summer. I've seen the hundreds, if not thousands of cyclists cruising down Davie street and the parade went on for about 20 minutes. Kinda sucks if you're stuck behind it and that's the point. It raises awareness of traffic gridlock caused by motorists and the pollution that it causes, yet ironically now it's cyclists causing the gridlock. Just listen to AM730 for traffic updates whenever the critical mass bike ride happens and avoid the area affected.
Absolutely! Absolutely! I agree with you 100%. If we didn't hand out drivers licenses at the age of 16 like we hand out so much candy, we would have MUCH safer streets. Think of it, for the most part 16 years olds aren't very mature yet we give them a license to drive 4000 pounds of steel. Kinda irresponsible! And at this age they develop stupid habits while driving, like talking on cell phones, text messaging
eek: ), checking their makeup, etc. I didn't get my license until my twenties either and I've been accident free ever since. No stupid habits here. Well, maybe a finger or two out my sunroof! Panther
Actually, in Saskatchewan, they get a learner's permit at 15. I was absolutely shocked when I found that out. I've heard it's 14 in Alberta!Absolutely! Absolutely! I agree with you 100%. If we didn't hand out drivers licenses at the age of 16 like we hand out so much candy, we would have MUCH safer streets. Think of it, for the most part 16 years olds aren't very mature yet we give them a license to drive 4000 pounds of steel. Kinda irresponsible! And at this age they develop stupid habits while driving, like talking on cell phones, text messaging
In 1990, I testified as a witness to an accident where an 18-yr-old floored his gas pedal just to show off the work he had done on his engine to his passenger. He broad-sided the other car (a heavy older car) so hard, it slammed into a signal lightpost and flew several yards. A passenger in the back died from a broken neck and the one next to her was permanently brain-damaged due to broken ribs puncturing her lungs.
To my dismay, two of my daughters have also proven that they get licences too soon here. Even though my eldest didn't get her full licence until she was nearly 17, she had an accident with her learner's permit and me in the passenger seat because she willingly did the exact opposite of what I told her to pulling out of a parking space! I was so miffed about the damage to my vehicle and the chaos that ensued (the owner of the other vehicle and her mother reduced my daughter to tears), that was the last time I took her driving—I couldn't handle the stress anymore.
Then someone gave us a car with a manual transmission, which I allowed her to drive on my insurance since I had one of my own (someone she knew from school taught her how to drive a stick—I was too rusty on it at the time). One night, she had two friends in the car and decided to pull a picture out of her purse to show them. She looked up and saw that she had drifted into the left lane. There was no traffic around her, so it wouldn't have been a problem to just stay in that lane. Instead, she panicked, flung the wheel to the right to get back into the lane she was in originally, lost control of the car, flew up over the curb and took out a lightpost, which landed on the hood of the car! I was amazed at the lack of injuries when I saw the car!
The car was totalled, the lightpost was totalled (I couldn't believe the bill for that thing—thank God the insurance paid it!), she smacked her head against her window and passed out, and the guy in the passenger seat took out the stick shift with his hip (I don't know if he was wearing a seat belt). Surprisingly, she wasn't charged with anything (like not paying due care and attention).
Then she had the audacity to get mad at me for not giving her the insurance payout on what she felt was her car, the premiums on my pkg policy doubled for over 2 yrs, and after verbally agreeing to, she refused to pay me the extra amount because I wouldn't get her another car. I told her I was willing to get her a bike with the payout (she refused), but the next time she drove a car, it would be on her own dime. Her last class act was to fall asleep and rear-end someone after being DD for her drunk friends—at least they got home safe.
At one time, I thought this was my brightest kid. She still talks on her cell when she's driving without her bluetooth on with my granddaughter and me in the car with her and I give her grief every time she does it.
The second eldest has impulsive-type ADD and my ex taught her how to drive on-schedule. I wanted her to be kept from getting a licence until she was 18 for her own safety. She's going to be paying for an accident in 2004 for many yrs to come (she claims the other driver was at fault, but she didn't know my ex pulled the insurance on the car he signed over to her the day before). She has a licence, but no vehicle, and if she stops making her minimal payments on the previous incident, they'll cancel it. She was also ticketed for speeding (90 kph in a 50 kph zone!) with my youngest in the car and no seat belt on. And I can't prove it was while actually driving, but she sent me a text msg once when she was on the highway with my grandson in the back!
Now I feel that my youngest is the smartest—at 19, she still refuses to drive. She's been through driver's ed and practiced, but after seeing me get rear-ended too many times and the mess her sisters have been in, she wants nothing to do with it. She just takes the transportation system and gets rides with friends and co-workers when the buses aren't running.
Holy smokes, VR!
That is a lot to deal with, for sure.
I once thought the graduated driving privileges system was great, and for most new drivers it probably is. They are restricted from late night driving, or more than X # of people or whatever. They pass another year and so on until all the restrictions are off, which usually puts them at 19+, which usually puts them in a bar celebrating their birthday until past midnight, and so on.
So what did one young driver do on her birthday, the day the restrictions were all lifted, to celebrate her unrestricted license?
Went to the bar, filled the car with the max # of people, drove everyone around at 2am, and piled the car into a telephone pole and died, injuring or killing a couple of others in the car.
That is a lot to deal with, for sure.
I once thought the graduated driving privileges system was great, and for most new drivers it probably is. They are restricted from late night driving, or more than X # of people or whatever. They pass another year and so on until all the restrictions are off, which usually puts them at 19+, which usually puts them in a bar celebrating their birthday until past midnight, and so on.
So what did one young driver do on her birthday, the day the restrictions were all lifted, to celebrate her unrestricted license?
Went to the bar, filled the car with the max # of people, drove everyone around at 2am, and piled the car into a telephone pole and died, injuring or killing a couple of others in the car.
How stupid. SGI thought the graduated licence program—which pre-dated the adventures of my older two—was such a great idea. I could never see the point because my daughters would have made their mistakes in spite of it.
One thing that gave me comfort was that having been president of SADD for 2 yrs in the rural town we lived in, I knew my eldest would never drink and drive. Her falling asleep behind the wheel after driving one too many friends home in her own car was a very ironic twist and a serious lesson—she was too concerned for others and not taking care of herself. She was never DD for a group of friends again.
I was shocked at how many funerals my daughters went to for friends killed in accidents. The oldest is 25 and they've been to more funerals than I've been to in my entire life. People act like that's normal out here, but I never knew of any peers dying in car accidents when I was growing up in Toronto. It upset me terribly to me to hear of my girls' friends dying so young and I worried about them far more than was healthy.
so now some don't want cyclists on highways....nice! and the reason allot of cyclists wear the shiny spandex clothing is that the innatentive people on cell phones or whatever can see them...cyclists pay taxes as well and by law have the right to be on the roads..it's called "sharing " the roadway..
driver awareness
this link was sent to me
i'm wondering what training new drivers get about sharing the road with cyclists?
http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w97/peterboo1/fifebikers com/?action=view¤t=think-jugadores-publiTV.flv
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this link was sent to me
i'm wondering what training new drivers get about sharing the road with cyclists?
http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w97/peterboo1/fifebikers com/?action=view¤t=think-jugadores-publiTV.flv
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