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Shakerod

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Look Shakerod, this is why it's so have political discussion with people like you. You seem to be getting a lot of your information from disreputable media sources and fringe social media, and then you do a major dump of claims that are either not entirely true, or completely false, and then expect everyone else to do an hour of research to dispute what you've posted.

  • Only 6% of COVID deaths are actually from COVID and the other 94% just tested positive.
This isn't true and it seems like you don't understand the guidance behind Death Certificate completion. Here is the CDC Guidance for statistics reporting. COVID has to be a contributor to the death in able to be reported on the DC. No "car crashes and gunshots" like a lot of right wing social media purports.
Someone can living with obesity, but suffers from a heart attack and ends up in the hospital and dies shortly after. They tested positive for COVID. The actual mechanism of their death might be something like a pulmonary embolism due to acute infection in their heart. COVID isn't a reparatory disease and it causes increased inflammation and coagulation throughout the human body and would be a contributing factor to this person's death and would be included on the death certificate. It's the same way that HIV hasn't directly killed anyone, but the is understood to be the reason for a person's demise.

As for the Andrew Cuomo stuff -- just because one guy on an escort review board hasn't heard of it doesn't mean it isn't national news. There are constant articles on CNN, MSNBC, CBC, Reuters, AP News, etc...
Prominent Democrats such as Chuck Schumer, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortex, Jerry Nadler, Kirsten Gillibrand and others have all called for Cuomo to resign.
He is currently under an impeachment probe.

You don't seem to be correct in the level of attention Cuomo is getting, and yet you cite is as speaking volumes about the culture and media in the US.
Exactly, I stand by everything I said. Cuomo is only one example. What’s going on with Hunter’s laptop? Where’s the investigation into Biden’s ties with Ukraine and China. The current ‘president in thief’ should be in jail. Are they going to have a three year investigation of him like they did with Trump?
 

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Exactly, I stand by everything I said. Cuomo is only one example. What’s going on with Hunter’s laptop? Where’s the investigation into Biden’s ties with Ukraine and China. The current ‘president in thief’ should be in jail. Are they going to have a three year investigation of him like they did with Trump?
As he has done his whole life, trump is going to do the noble thing and go to jail in place of his hero Joe.
 
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Exactly, I stand by everything I said. Cuomo is only one example. What’s going on with Hunter’s laptop? Where’s the investigation into Biden’s ties with Ukraine and China. The current ‘president in thief’ should be in jail. Are they going to have a three year investigation of him like they did with Trump?
Ah, so you don’t have anything to actually say, you’re just gonna shitpost.
Exactly, I stand by everything I said. Cuomo is only one example. What’s going on with Hunter’s laptop? Where’s the investigation into Biden’s ties with Ukraine and China. The current ‘president in thief’ should be in jail. Are they going to have a three year investigation of him like they did with Trump?
Ok, so you don’t have anything to actually say, just shitpost from the Rebel News and the latest RightWingPatriotFreedumTruck blog post.

You’re at the “family doesn’t invite you to thanksgiving anymore” level of deranged. Some good advice from masterpoonhunter up there.
 
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Haha, shitpost.
Nice. Might become a new favourite word at the right moment.
 

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Yesterday I was watching on Netflix, "Five came Back". Its about films made by the American during WW2. The first of the documentary is about the German Concentration Camps made just after the end of WW2. The Americans made the local people help clean up the bodies from the concentration camps. The one thing I saw from the German civilians was the lack of respect for the dead. But I guess how else are you going to throw a dead body into a mass grave.

The Germans killed so many prisoners during the last days of the war. Of course the army guys had to get the supreme brass to look at the concentration camps(usually took a couple of days). If a camera crew was available to record the images they were sent. But after a couple of days the stink from the rotting bodies got to be too much, and they had to bulldoze the bodies into the dug mass graves.

Somehow people today got to throwing around names, just to see the effect it has on other people. Racist is one of those names. Just watch that documentary...... And think before you use that word....
 
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Today, Julian Khater and George Tanios were arrested for assaulting Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick, who later died from his injuries at the capitol (not yet proven the two arrested are the ones that murdered him).

Retired NYPD Cop Thomas Webster was arrested for beating capitol police with a pole. He’s also suspected of blinding an officer while gouging his eyes with his fingers.

Capitol Officer Daniel Hodges in on camera being crushed in a doorway while rioters are pushing forward.

Officers Howard Liebengood and Jeffery Smith both committed suicide in the days following the riot.

Watch some videos, read some news articles, that’s a good start.
Oh, for gawd's sake, why don't you look at something besides CNN?

The first two were charged for spraying mace at Sicknick. Implying they might have "murdered" him, is disingenuous at best, criminal libel at worst. And Sicknick did not die "of his injuries".

The retired cop mostly bashed a fence, and didn't blind anybody by gouging out eyes.

Crushed in a doorway? Seriously? Every usher at an arena or stadium experiences that.

Two officers committed suicide? Police have one of the highest suicide rates of all professions. Two in a week probably falls within the norms.

Try doing some actual research before embarrassing yourself as badly as crookedmember, who also posts his fantasies as facts.
 
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Oh, for gawd's sake, why don't you look at something besides CNN?

The first two were charged for spraying mace at Sicknick. Implying they might have "murdered" him, is disingenuous at best, criminal libel at worst. And Sicknick did not die "of his injuries".

The retired cop mostly bashed a fence, and didn't blind anybody by gouging out eyes.

Crushed in a doorway? Seriously? Every usher at an arena or stadium experiences that.

Two officers committed suicide? Police have one of the highest suicide rates of all professions. Two in a week probably falls within the norms.

Try doing some actual research before embarrassing yourself as badly as crookedmember, who also posts his fantasies as facts.
You’re being willfully ignorant, or you’re just arguing in bad faith. Have you not even watched videos from the capitol?

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Cock Throppled

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At least 138 officers were injured, the departments have said. They ranged from bruises and lacerations to more serious damage such as concussions, rib fractures, burns and even a mild heart attack.

How many were serious injuries, and how many boo boos?

How many partook of violence compared to the number present?

BLM and Antifa riots are always excused as the actions of a small percentage of demonstartors. Thata was also true of the pro-Trump demonstartion.

And the "armed insurrection" turned up not to have any record of firearms or incendiary devices seized from demonstartors.

An insurrection that mostly consisted of a small group of looky loos and people taking selfies, with no police or military backing can't legitimately be described as an insurrection except by Democrats trying to make it something it wasn't.
 
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Trump has done a great job.

a. creates jobs (employment rate is low)

b. Stock market is record high

c. Middle east is peaceful even moved Israel to Jerusalem

d. unbelievable vaccine schedule (so fast. In this summer, probably states will be vaccinated)

E. Wake the whole world up to see the true face of the CCP (Chinese communist party). This is world changing.

Certainly, he is not a saint. I don't agree that he did not wear mask. He catch the covid19 and he deserves it. However , he did not cry like a baby. Two days later, come back for the election.

He would be one of the greatest president.

I only go for the date. Trump is not a perfect man but he does a good job.
 
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At least 138 officers were injured, the departments have said. They ranged from bruises and lacerations to more serious damage such as concussions, rib fractures, burns and even a mild heart attack.

How many were serious injuries, and how many boo boos?

How many partook of violence compared to the number present?

BLM and Antifa riots are always excused as the actions of a small percentage of demonstartors. Thata was also true of the pro-Trump demonstartion.

And the "armed insurrection" turned up not to have any record of firearms or incendiary devices seized from demonstartors.

An insurrection that mostly consisted of a small group of looky loos and people taking selfies, with no police or military backing can't legitimately be described as an insurrection except by Democrats trying to make it something it wasn't.
Just exemplifies how dumb trump is. Didn’t know how to conduct an insurrection.
 
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masterblaster

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Trump has done a great job.

a. creates jobs (employment rate is low)

b. Stock market is record high

c. Middle east is peaceful even moved Israel to Jerusalem

d. unbelievable vaccine schedule (so fast. In this summer, probably states will be vaccinated)

E. Wake the whole world up to see the true face of the CCP (Chinese communist party). This is world changing.

Certainly, he is not a saint. I don't agree that he did not wear mask. He catch the covid19 and he deserves it. However , he did not cry like a baby. Two days later, come back for the election.

He would be one of the greatest president.

I only go for the date. Trump is not a perfect man but he does a good job.
Pretty sure trump didn’t move Israel to Jerusalem. If you look on a map Israel is in the same place it always was.
 

Cock Throppled

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Just exemplifies how dumb trump is. Didn’t know how to conduct an insurrection.
Okay, I keep asking people back up claims with facts, but it never happens.

So, please explain how he said, "go to the Capitol, and protest peacefully and patriotically", is him conducting an insurrection? How many times have Democrat politicians called for demonstrators to fill the streets, and actually supported violence?

Was all the reporting of him asking to find votes in Georgia, not irresonsible, now that it was proven to be a complete fabrication? Was every media outlet that claimed to have "verified" the call, being truthful? Why do you still trust them?

You can join the MSM in almost completely ignoring Biden's continual inability to remember things, or his physical frailty.
 
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