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Shakerod

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I haven't seen anything to suggest Biden is senile. In fact, given the way he handled the stimulus bill, got the checks out in record time, and the masterful speech he gave last week, I'd say he's sharp as a tack.

The former guy however, still claims he won an election he lost by 7 million votes "in a landslide." And there were reports that Ivanka had to change his sheets each morning because he wet them each night.

The former guy is not looking well at all these days. Gaunt and depressed. I think he knows Cy Vance has got him by his shrivelled balls and he'll be spending his last days in prison.
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Yes, you are right but the fact remains that he has caused so much hate and pain to so many people, unfortunately. And the lives lost because of his ignorant responds to this pandemic is something that cannot be overlooked. I still want to believe that at the end of the day, more than half or most of the 74M people will make their own judgement of themselves whether their lives are better going forward without him or with him. Time will tell.
You mean like shoving Covid patients into nursing homes like six Democrat governors did? Trump said many times that he would leave the decisions up to each individual state. I guess you don’t remember him saying that. Remember when Cuomo praised him at the beginning for bringing a ship in that could be used to house patients which was never used? That was Cuomo that made that decision. All those people that died in those Nursing homes were his fault.
 

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That’s all bullshit. The person that died from supposedly getting hit by a fire hose died from a blood clot, the family has already said it was probably from the chemicals sprayed by the police. The other guy that was charged has been in a wheelchair for years and just like all the Trump supporters didn’t even have a weapon.
 

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You mean like shoving Covid patients into nursing homes like six Democrat governors did? Trump said many times that he would leave the decisions up to each individual state. I guess you don’t remember him saying that. Remember when Cuomo praised him at the beginning for bringing a ship in that could be used to house patients which was never used? That was Cuomo that made that decision. All those people that died in those Nursing homes were his fault.
I am sorry but I honestly don't understand the relevance of what you're saying with my comment. You are comparing apples to oranges. I am not familiar about the nursing homes you are talking about. True or not, I don't know. If what you are saying about democrat governors or Gov Cuomo are correct, then these people should be called out just as I feel I need to say something about what stupid trump did.
 

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That’s all bullshit. The person that died from supposedly getting hit by a fire hose died from a blood clot, the family has already said it was probably from the chemicals sprayed by the police. The other guy that was charged has been in a wheelchair for years and just like all the Trump supporters didn’t even have a weapon.
Can you clarify who and what you're referring to? A blood clot doesn't seem like an unusual cause of death following injury. Who's in a wheelchair?
 

Shakerod

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I am sorry but I honestly don't understand the relevance of what you're saying with my comment. You are comparing apples to oranges. I am not familiar about the nursing homes you are talking about. True or not, I don't know. If what you are saying about democrat governors or Gov Cuomo are correct, then these people should be called out just as I feel I need to say something about what stupid trump did.
He is being investigated right now for the Nursing Home deaths. There are also six woman that came forward saying they were sexual ly assaulted by him. The fact that you haven’t heard about it speaks volumes about the culture the US is living in when it comes to the media. Ignore the stories that don’t suite your particular narrative. The point I was making is that each State had the autonomy to have their own plan. Some states did well, other states didn’t. To blame all the deaths on Trump is as misleading as saying all the deaths were due to COVID, when even the CDC said only 6% were COVID deaths, 94% were people who had tested positive when they died, big difference.
 
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Why should I have to do your research? Look it up for yourself...
...I’ll give you a hint. Go to Rebel News and you’ll find a good article from a few days ago about how silent the woke Dem’s are in their hypocrisy filled world.
 

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Look Shakerod, this is why it's so have political discussion with people like you. You seem to be getting a lot of your information from disreputable media sources and fringe social media, and then you do a major dump of claims that are either not entirely true, or completely false, and then expect everyone else to do an hour of research to dispute what you've posted.

  • Only 6% of COVID deaths are actually from COVID and the other 94% just tested positive.
This isn't true and it seems like you don't understand the guidance behind Death Certificate completion. Here is the CDC Guidance for statistics reporting. COVID has to be a contributor to the death in able to be reported on the DC. No "car crashes and gunshots" like a lot of right wing social media purports.
Someone can living with obesity, but suffers from a heart attack and ends up in the hospital and dies shortly after. They tested positive for COVID. The actual mechanism of their death might be something like a pulmonary embolism due to acute infection in their heart. COVID isn't a reparatory disease and it causes increased inflammation and coagulation throughout the human body and would be a contributing factor to this person's death and would be included on the death certificate. It's the same way that HIV hasn't directly killed anyone, but the is understood to be the reason for a person's demise.

As for the Andrew Cuomo stuff -- just because one guy on an escort review board hasn't heard of it doesn't mean it isn't national news. There are constant articles on CNN, MSNBC, CBC, Reuters, AP News, etc...
Prominent Democrats such as Chuck Schumer, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortex, Jerry Nadler, Kirsten Gillibrand and others have all called for Cuomo to resign.
He is currently under an impeachment probe.

You don't seem to be correct in the level of attention Cuomo is getting, and yet you cite is as speaking volumes about the culture and media in the US.
 

musingaway

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...I’ll give you a hint. Go to Rebel News and you’ll find a good article from a few days ago about how silent the woke Dem’s are in their hypocrisy filled world.
So, I wouldn't use Rebel News myself. They're a far-right media outlet at worst, or junk news media at best.
They've had Gavin McInnes (founder of the Proud Boys) as a regular contributor.
They use a ton of emotionally charged language in their reporting, which takes away their reputation as objective reporters of news.

Half their news articles don't even have a byline; how are you supposed to consider them to be a professional news organization when you don't even know the author of the articles?
 
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Comparing a President who incited an insurrection and riot that killed people, to a governor who was forced to send covid patients to other institutions from overflowing hospitals is a little bit bizarre.

One made the choice to kill people and cause mayhem; the other was forced to make a choice when no good choices existed.

A President of the United States caused a deadly insurrection because he's an asshole who couldn't accept the election results. That's never happened before and nothing compares to it.

Trump should be facing a firing squad for this.
 

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...I’ll give you a hint. Go to Rebel News and you’ll find a good article from a few days ago about how silent the woke Dem’s are in their hypocrisy filled world.
So This Article, you mean?

So Lindsey Boylan is speaking out against Cuomo.
She was the first woman to lodge allegations.
Cuomo's weak defense is included.

They quote one of Boylan's tweets: "It also calls into question the judgment and courage of both @potus and @KamalaHarris"
She has since deleted the tweet due to being harassed by left-wing trolls on twitter.
She accuses the trolls of being paid (they print this in their article, yet don't cite any evidence to support) *red flag for shitty journalism*

Article acknowledges some Democratic leadership has called for Cuomo to resign.
They quote Biden ""I think the investigation is underway and we should see what it brings us"
They reference other reporting about a close relationship between Biden and Cuomo.
The article ends with a Psaki Quote: " he president believes that every woman who’s come forward — there have now been six, I believe, who have come forward — deserves to have her voice heard, should be treated with respect, and should be able to tell her story.” " There also is an independent investigation that is ongoing, of course, in the state, with subpoena power overseen by the attorney general, and he certainly supports that moving forward. We, of course, have watched the news of a number of lawmakers call for that, but I don’t have any additional announcements from here"

Again, no byline so no idea who the author is.

So you read this and thought this article was evidence that the media is entirely corrupt and this was good reporting that proves "how silent the woke Dem’s are in their hypocrisy filled world"?

Maybe read more objective news and don't get yourself so worked up over the emotions and attitude of the story.
 
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I am sorry but I honestly don't understand the relevance of what you're saying with my comment. You are comparing apples to oranges. I am not familiar about the nursing homes you are talking about. True or not, I don't know. If what you are saying about democrat governors or Gov Cuomo are correct, then these people should be called out just as I feel I need to say something about what stupid trump did.
You can't argue with MAGidiots and Trump dick suckers...
 

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Comparing a President who incited an insurrection and riot that killed people, to a governor who was forced to send covid patients to other institutions from overflowing hospitals is a little bit bizarre.

One made the choice to kill people and cause mayhem; the other was forced to make a choice when no good choices existed.

A President of the United States caused a deadly insurrection because he's an asshole who couldn't accept the election results. That's never happened before and nothing compares to it.

Trump should be facing a firing squad for this.
Your claims are easily debunked by simple fact checks. There were no arms found in this so called armed insurrection and the election was clearly rigged:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/judge-rules-michigan-sec-state-broke-law-absentee-ballot
https://trendingpolitics.com/breaki...re-do-after-78-of-mail-in-ballots-fraudulent/
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/texas-woman-arrested-on-voter-fraud-charges/ar-BB1cJj5M
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...lH9Ka1htFqCGxxE_nLrvHJ9Fw3PjI_k1SlI_98LoWGCHc
 

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I find that Ignore Button quite refreshing when the trolls get off their meds.
 
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