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Real question - have you watched or are you planning on watching any of the Capitol Officer's testimony?
Deniability would be jeopardize if they would watch any testimony from officers or witnesses. Hell... they even deny the footages from the rioters .
Why would anybody?
Strange that when BLM and Antifa are accused of rioting, looting and burning, the defence is always that the demonstrations were mostly peaceful, and the destruction was just done by a few that don't represent the majority, but with the Jan 6 incident, even though there were 50,000 people there, and only a few hundred disorganized, unarmed idiots were violent, Democrats, MSM and some of you label it an "insurrection."
Why isn't the same logic you apply to groups that did far more damage and caused far more deaths over months, not apply to the people in Washington over a couple of hours on January 6? But that doesn't fit your one-sided agenda, does it?
Because the lying Orange asshole egged them on with a lie, he is still lying about his election loss and these retards all believe him. Add in the Qannon imbeciles and you have millions of Fox News watching Brainwashed morons wanting to take down their democratically elected government. These people live in Bizzaro World, they are now dying in record numbers because they also believe the lie that the vaccines are unsafe. The stupids will keep all this shit going for a long time, meanwhile the Orange asshole is going to milk them out of every cent he can get and he doesn’t give a Shit about any of them! The US is fucked!
because no one is denying the fact that these demonstrations occurred, or called BLM a normal 'tourist' day. Several of the BLM demonstrations only turned violent when they were assaulted by The National Guard (or in a few instances, non-identified Gustapo-type enforcers) that 45 and/or his henchmen unleashed.
The GOP/Trump/Q continue to argue that 1/6 didn't happen...that's the difference. Trump believes everyone is as deaf, dumb & blind as his followers.
...I think the BLM rioting last summer was a civil disobedience in protest of what happen to the many shootings and killings of black folks in America, that went out of control. 1/6 was intended to over throw a democratic institution, a planned rebellion, a coup. Definitely an insurrection incited by a duly elected president to hold on to power that he lost. That's the distinction here and not any conspiracy theories.
...said with no sense of irony as he ignores facts to forward his one-sided beliefs..
It's just a game for the right-wingers. They feel like the left got to riot uncontrollably because, despite how much they say they hate MSM, they get fired up over clips of riots on Fox News. BLM is a civil rights movement and while it's largely peaceful, shit is going to happen. Everyone looks fondly at the civil rights legislation that came out of the 60's, but that took hard work from the black protestors and organizers and definitely wasn't just some peaceful, hippy movement either. The Holy Week Uprising after MLK's assassination resulted in dozens of deaths, but also resulted in the Fair Housing Act of 1968. The more peaceful and organized the protests, the better, but you can't discredit an entire movement because the radical fringe gets violent. From civil disobedience to outright violence, if you're committing a crime you should expect the consequences, regardless of the motivation.
There's no nuance on the right, though, and it seems like a bunch of uneducated, polarized hicks from all over America got drawn to the Capitol with lies of election fraud and were set loose to stop the certification. I'm sure most didn't think they'd make it inside -- they thought they'd get to be belligerent and loud and get on TV, then go home. But with the Capitol Police understaffed and undersupplied they were quickly overrun. Mixed in with the dumb hicks were Proud Boys, Oathkeepers, 3 Percenters and Q-Anon freaks. Some wanted to make noise and be seen, but others legitimately wanted to overturn the election results. A lot of those organized groups have links to the Trump team via Roger Stone and Steve Bannon, which is why a formal inquiry like this is important. The right just wants to shout "But you had your riot, why can't we have ours" and ignore the fact that civil rights movement is not the same thing as trying to overturn an election you're not happy about.
you say it's not the same, but, while maybe not a true conspiracy theory
it's not based in facts, stats, reality
Blacks aren't being killed by cops at a rate that's higher than others, just cause they're black
more whites are killed every year by cops in the US than Blacks
Blacks kill more Blacks by a margin that isn't even close to what the amount is being killed by cops
not to mention, go look at all the high profile shootings, supposed "killings"
how many of those blacks ran from the cops, fought against being arrested, didn't comply with their orders?
and then throw in the US's actual situation of guns, you can't even come close to comparing it to other 1st world countries, like the EU, Canada, Australia
not to mention, it's not just "whitey" cops that are involved in these instances anymore
facts, they don't matter anymore
isn't that kinda the start of conspiracy theories?
when the truth doesn't matter?
Victims were majority white (52%) but disproportionately black (32%) with a fatality rate 2.8 times higher among blacks than whites. Perhaps a lesson in context is in order here...here's the full study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/
Good link Golfer. That's an actual research document as opposed to an op-ed. It'll take time to digest that.
As you said, victims are majority white but so is the population at large. USA population overall is approx 60% white and 13% black. So a proportional death rate for blacks would be a bit over a fifth of the white rate.
Table 6 is interesting, the percentages of deaths caused by LEO broken down into percentages. Are white LEOs more or less likely to kill? It looks like black LEOs kill less people than white LEOs.
As you said, victims are majority white but so is the population at large. USA population overall is approx 60% white and 13% black. So a proportional death rate for blacks would be a bit over a fifth of the white rate.
Table 6 is interesting, the percentages of deaths caused by LEO broken down into percentages. Are white LEOs more or less likely to kill? It looks like black LEOs kill less people than white LEOs.
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Popped in here to see how the trolls were doing and yup, y'all keep feeding them. And they keep on posting their drivel.
I still would like to see the Muller report, not redacted and fully published.
The various investigations into the dRUMPf family are going as per the Don Gotti investigations. Keep getting to the various lieutenants, work on their plea bargains, keep building up the evidence, then finally go for the gusto. More than likely they'll get the Fat Cheeto for something like mail fraud or tax evasion or something similar and leave the RICO charges for later. Treason would be great but unlikely.
The real plum would be to convict I mean actually convict, the various Repuglicans for inciting violence against the state. It seems with the blatant corruption the US political system is under some kind of really major and serious precedents being set would start a reset of their system. But who are any of us kidding. All political systems everywhere are corrupt.
I still would like to see the Muller report, not redacted and fully published.
The various investigations into the dRUMPf family are going as per the Don Gotti investigations. Keep getting to the various lieutenants, work on their plea bargains, keep building up the evidence, then finally go for the gusto. More than likely they'll get the Fat Cheeto for something like mail fraud or tax evasion or something similar and leave the RICO charges for later. Treason would be great but unlikely.
The real plum would be to convict I mean actually convict, the various Repuglicans for inciting violence against the state. It seems with the blatant corruption the US political system is under some kind of really major and serious precedents being set would start a reset of their system. But who are any of us kidding. All political systems everywhere are corrupt.
Hey, TrumpTrollz(tm) used to be people to! Lets have some comapssion 😀
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In addition to what I posted here last July 30, BLM rally, riot, looting or whatever happen last summer was a reaction to many years of racial discrimination. There was and still a failure of governance and society. While 1/6 was planned action, as evidences are showing, by a president, who lost in a fair election, to stay in power forever. That difference is a fact and for some people to somehow say and try to make the two the same, just coming from the right or left is ridiculous and inconsistent with reality.
I am just stating my opinion as I read thru the comments here, just like any other here. If Biden was the one that caused 1/6, my opinion will still be the same. I don't care who the president there is. The left, the right or the middle, it really doesn't matter to me. The fact is BLM is a civil movement that got out of hand and should be investigated and people should be jailed for the rioting and looting. 1/6 is totally different thing. Its a movement perpetrated by one person and his minions to overthrow a legitimate, constituted government to stay in power for the rest of his life. It's two different thing. If people disagree, it's their right and I will respect it.
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Jesus dude, Gish Gallop much?
You just dumped so much fake and incorrect bullshit it would take hours to properly address any of it.
You have a really disgusting up view on what it means to be black in America. There is no systemic oppression of black people in the US, they've been given every opportunity and they either gotta fix it themselves or go back to Africa?
That's some outright racist shit you're pedaling.
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