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Ill agree that the last 4 years were pretty pathetic in terms of efficiency but keep in mind that with an efficient and assertive AG heading the DOJ trump would have been running his campaign from a prison cell . So that turned out to be a win for you guys .


Look at Geatz proficiency in law during committees and let us know if you would select him as your lawyer to defend you in any case that could be thrown at you . Showmanship 10 / 10 ( you were mentioning clown earlier )
Procedure and knowledge of the law 2 or 3 / 10
That's the reason the Republicans gag when ask about his nomination so far .
There will certainly be material for Jon Stewart and Bill Maher broadcasts but in reality this posting demands someone at the top of their legal game. Not just some fast talking loudmouth who is inches away from doing time for being with underage females.
 

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i like a good coffee. Americano straight up has to br my fave.

We have so many cream alt and crazy additive choices to deal with now.

i just want a coffee.
remembering when you could get a cup of coffee for some spare change and pocket lint! the good stuff!

i've been thinking of opening a coffee chain that just serves drip coffee for cheap. nothing else.
 
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Trump is pushing for "recess appointments"... so senate confirmation of any of his admin picks doesn't even happen.

no need to confirm Gaetz. just install him. what are people going to do? call the FBI? Gaetz will be the FBI!

this will be fun to see everybody in congress and the senate squirm under Trumps complete lawlessness. he is immune to prosecution. he has the power to pardon. he is all powerful. Trump is not interested in law and order. he is a serial criminal.

this is already happening.

Trump still forgoing ‘critical’ agreements for transition planning

this is law signed by Trump during his term. who cares! he's not having any of it. so his transition team won't have access to anything before he takes office because they can't pass ethics or security hurdles. it doesn't prevent him from taking office anyways... so, fuck the law! conflicts of interest? what are you going to do about it?! nothing! he's immune from prosecution! hahaha!

in future there will be far more guardrails. the people will be thanking Trump for exposing how silly it is to lean on norms, tradition and, god forbid, integrity. i mean, if democracy survives at all that is.
 
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Enjoying coffee is a precursor to engaging in political discussions effectively. If I can’t enjoy my coffee and chill with an appreciative mind, I risk doing more harm than good with my drivvle.

My Uncle used to say “I’d rather be wrong than dead wrong”. He particularly enjoyed Cafe Latte. Passed away this spring. I miss him, and try to look around without too much judgement while sipping my Americano and posting my take on events.
 

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Maybe the geniuses of perb who were sure Trump would lose, the Republicans would be wiped out and Harris would usher in a new era should stand down for a while, because like much of the MSM, and pollsters, you have no credibility left. Gasbagging your opinions to prop each other up might help your egos, but to many of us each post just reaffirms your lack of insight.
 

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Maybe the geniuses of perb who were sure Trump would lose, the Republicans would be wiped out and Harris would usher in a new era should stand down for a while, because like much of the MSM, and pollsters, you have no credibility left. Gasbagging your opinions to prop each other up might help your egos, but to many of us each post just reaffirms your lack of insight.
i think its already becoming disappointing to you the circus that has already started that will be the Trump Whitehouse. even more hilarious than last time! hahahaha! what a clown.

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i think its already becoming disappointing to you the circus that has already started that will be the Trump Whitehouse. even more hilarious than last time! hahahaha! what a clown.

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The one positive feature of having TDS is the ability to predict the future.

Remember, Trump was headed for jail and Harris was going to become President.

How did that go?
 
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I dont think Canadian soldiers had any good equipment for that at that time. It wasn't until General Hillier became CDS, that is when the CAF starting to get newer equipment and a budget to get new equipment. That was for Afghanistan.

Canadian soldiers back then were not any better or worse off than they are now (or let's say circa 2021).

That sudden rush of new gear for Afghanistan was not down to Hillier, though he was in charge; that is down to the "oh shit" effect of being forced to play catch-up when a new war suddenly reset all their priorities and planning. The usual years-long procurement circle-jerk gets tossed aside as the decisiveness level of government goes way up. "Off the shelf" purchases without much contract tendering or long-term evaluation become acceptable, as "general wish list" musing turns into some very specific needs.
Things have changed yet again. Even looking at the CAF today, I think they have a better idea in 2024 of how their future force structure will need to be than they did in 2021. You can say that is prompted by the Ukraine thing more than anything, but it is somewhat overdue given how Russia's only one of 4 potentially belligerent major powers (the others being China, India, and as of this month's events, the USA).
 

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To be fair, $120 billion is pocket lint compared to the $8 trillion of debt he ran up in his first term.

When they deport all of the illegals, I wonder who they're going to get to work on the farms and harvest the food?

Democrats, GOP never-Trumpers, real journalists, and women who had abortions; all arrested and sent to privatized gulags where they work in the fields for free, while the oligarchs who run them sit on the porch fanning themselves and drinking mint juleps. :sneaky:
 
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The US now has the person they elected and I hope he does everything he has promised to the US. I just wish he didn't have the power of the US to screw all the rest of us in the world. And he will.
Yup, for the 100th time: there is nothing in that country that any other nation should try to emulate.
People in the political systems of other nations (especially Canada) need to treat politicians who emulate the politics of USA like some kind of zombie plague, and burn them out of our national life with a flamethrower.
 

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Opened as a prison, that started a huge expansion of the prison system to hold unwanted peoples in. Yup, Trump's necessary expansion of the prison system to hold millions of immigrants sounds nothing like that at all. As if America didn't already have the world's largest prison population. 🙄
By the way, the companies who run privatized prisons are some of his biggest political donors.
 
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Yup, for the 100th time: there is nothing in that country that any other nation should try to emulate.
People in the political systems of other nations (especially Canada) need to treat politicians who emulate the politics of USA like some kind of zombie plague, and burn them out of our national life with a flamethrower.
You're absolutely right.

The United States is a very bad, terrible place.

Poverty, racism and don't forget the rampant misogyny.

It's basically a dictatorship.

People have no rights.

Why do millions of people from all over the world (some risking their lives) emigrate legally and illegally to the United States?

They must be crazy or stupid.

Am I right?
 

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Going back to Hillary, I thought she had an incredibly nuanced understanding of foreign policy and relations. Similarly, I think Kamala has a great understanding of the inner workings of the judicial system, and gives very detailed and nuanced answers to questions dealing with these topics. I love listening to both of them talk about issues within their sphere of expertise. That said, I don't think anybody can compare either of them to Donald Trump, and criticize their ability to answer questions. Trump can't even answer a question without going completely off topic, lying through his teeth, or both. He has no relevant knowledge or experience on anything related to government, at all. So while I think Kamala could do a better job with answering certain questions, I think a lot of it is explained by her only formulating positions on issues in an incredibly short amount of time, due to an incredibly compressed campaign.

Yeah, but looking at Hillary Clinton, even 9-10 years ago, I said this to people I knew, something GOP supporters always hated to hear but it is true
Hillary was just about the most right-wing blue dog GOP-lite as a Democrat nominee could be. Sure, you might get a few Dems somehow more right-wing than her, but they could never lead the whole party as a presidential nominee. Hillary Clinton was completely a Wall Street-connected war-hawk, imperial interventionist, pro-Iraq war, pals with Netanyahu, every bit as much as George W Bush. Hillary's campaign against Obama invented the "birther" rumour mill to discredit him. Republicans hated someone who could easily have been one of them. The fact that she was a typical Dem on social issues does not explain it; they hated her in particular since the 1990's. If the devil could run against her, the GOP would sell their souls just to see her lose (and that is pretty much what happened).

Later when Obama beat her and won the presidency, he made her secretary of state, and then all Obama's intentions to repudiate the Bush era foreign policy somehow turned into a continuation of it as long as she was around. Then she leaves to become a NY Senator, sponsored by Wall Street oligarchs. 2016 primaries, she did Bernie Sanders dirty with the DNC rigging the contest, and when it got found out (rather, suspicions were confirmed), of course it turned off the grassroots idealists of the Democtratic party. Even after all that, she might have healed that breach and won anyway, if she had named Sanders for VP as a peace offering - but the elites did not want him, and she was too arrogant to think that she could lose against a guy like Trump (obnoxious, sketchy beliefs, zero political experience). Basically Hillary Clinton sabotaged her own chances; she was a liability to her party, not an asset. Even after the Dems lost, they doubled down on blaming anyone but her and the party's inner circle: blame Putin, blame Bernie's bros, blame Jill Stein just for existing.

Kamala Harris might not have had Clinton's long record of making enemies, but coming up as a primary candidate in 2020 she displayed a similar sort of haughty un-charisma and tendency to try fragging people on her own team. Harris' campaign got torpedoed in the aftermath of a sharp debate exchange with Tulsi Gabbard, after Harris had tried to paint Biden as some kind of tacit racist. Among the DNC elite, Harris was one of their favourites (along with others like Buttigieg and Beto O'Rourke). After the old warhorse Joe Biden won the 2020 primary, he inexplicably named Harris as his choice for VP (Was it for race & gender optics? I think it was because the DNC insiders wanted her all along, and he was too much of a "company man" to tell them no.)

Biden had to win in tough times then govern in tough times, and I think he will in the end get more credit for things he did while president than US voters credited him for this year. Trump's economic rhetoric will reap the benefit from the fact Biden already started putting the screws to China and already passed measures to reduce inflation. But in the here and now, US voters grew too frustrated waiting for things to get better. Maybe someone besides Harris might have kept them from straying into the false prophet's cult, but that would have required not just more time (i.e. Biden never trying to hang on for a second term), but a contest for new blood in which someone genuinely appealing rises up, as opposed to trying to pass off "meh" as "wonderful". The Democrats have counted 3 times now on the public just seeing self-evidently that Trump is a crook, a lecher, a fuck-up, and a wannabe dictator - and twice it has failed for them. The fact that all those accusations happen to be true is not saving them. Their problems all stem from the fact that inside their own house their supposedly savvy leaders seem to be hell-bent on dismissing good advice from their grassroots members and ignoring what "the street" wants or thinks. They need to be worthy of voting for, not just less fucked up than the goofs they are running against.
 
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You're absolutely right.

The United States is a very bad, terrible place.

Poverty, racism and don't forget the rampant misogyny.

It's basically a dictatorship.

People have no rights.

Why do millions of people from all over the world (some risking their lives) emigrate legally and illegally to the United States?

They must be crazy or stupid.

Am I right?

What you are is an American, even if you're living up here, your heart is with them. Go - be down there with your emperor, experiencing the bliss of licking the dirt from under his shadow.
 

rlock

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then, it's 2 yrs at most, cause just like pretty much every other time, the midterms will correct it

go look at the numbers, roughly 9 million less voted this time, with an increase in the population

Facts. The political ferris wheel keeps turning (but less and less voters want to ride).
 
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