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racist dog whistle?

DEI is racist

when you just use people's ethnicity/colour/gender, you're discriminating against someone, someone who's more qualified, it's happening in Canada now, the Turd has it as policy, has since he got elected

look at what it's delivered, subpar results

it's a race to the bottom

Harris was a DEI pick, she ticked the boxes, female/colour, 2, she wasn't the best available

still isn't, she was just convenient, she'll be gone in 4 yrs
 

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she wasn't the best available
still isn't, she was just convenient, she'll be gone in 4 yrs
Better than the alternative.
Sometimes you can't pick the best, you have to pick the least bad.

Always amazing out of 350 million theses are the best candidates?
Same with Canada. There must be someone better than the bunch we have.
 
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DEI is racist

when you just use people's ethnicity/colour/gender, you're discriminating against someone, someone who's more qualified, it's happening in Canada now, the Turd has it as policy, has since he got elected

look at what it's delivered, subpar results

it's a race to the bottom

Harris was a DEI pick, she ticked the boxes, female/colour, 2, she wasn't the best available

still isn't, she was just convenient, she'll be gone in 4 yrs
So you must be disappointed that she in fact is the best alternative to that senile, lying old grifter Trump.
 

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In early 2022 as things opened up I was taking a client to Whistler. He was a Democrat, in fact part of the National Committee. One of the people that got Obama into office. I asked him about Harris, why she wasn't as visible as previous Vice-Presidents. His response, " her job was done the day Joe Biden got elected."

DEI hire ?
The vice presidents job isn't to run the country, it's to help the president run the country. I didn't know anything about her really until she moved into the spotlight, but If you're thinking she's not a smart capable woman, maybe you should watch how she kicked Trump's butt to the curb and played him like a fool in the debate. Doesn't matter why she was given the opportunity, she's more than proven she's an excellent choice.
 

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DEI is racist

when you just use people's ethnicity/colour/gender, you're discriminating against someone, someone who's more qualified, it's happening in Canada now, the Turd has it as policy, has since he got elected

look at what it's delivered, subpar results

it's a race to the bottom

Harris was a DEI pick, she ticked the boxes, female/colour, 2, she wasn't the best available

still isn't, she was just convenient, she'll be gone in 4 yrs
Diversity Equity and Inclusion is not inherently racist.. it's a concept that is difficult to implement in practical terms.
The concept is that everyone regardless of their differences should have equality of opportunity,.. unfortunately many equate this with equality of outcome. The result not the opportunity.
Many people take the concept to extremes, either refusing to acknowledge that someone who does not fit their conception of the role is competent and deserving, or believing that someone who is not qualified is deserving because they are not the stereotype of the role.
The truth is that life isn't fair. We can only try to treat others fairly and with consideration and hope for their success.
Just because you have the opportunity to achieve something doesn't mean you have the skill or intelligence or strength or whatever characteristics are needed to achieve it, and even if you do, that doesn't mean that there won't be someone else who's better.
Enough about DEI and back to Harris.
I think you're underestimating Harris because you want to believe that she's not deserving, or ."she's a DEI hire" fits so neatly into your conception of her that you might even believe it's true. That may be because you have biases against female/colour/ etc (the things you mentioned). or it may be because you've done some in depth research that isn't apparent to mostly everyone who looks at her list of accomplishments.. but the bottom line is, it doesn't matter how she got the job, it matters what she does once she's got it and you have to admit, for someone whom you don't think is qualified she's doing a pretty good job of proving that in this democratic job interview she's got an excellent chance of getting the job. Sounds pretty qualified to me.

Don't be bitter, even Trump is whining about how he wants Biden back instead of Harris, you are entitled to do the same.
Doesn't make you right though.
 

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How many Americans does it actually benefit?
Not many people who are struggling to get by have extensive investment portfolios.
You don't need to be invested in the market for it to be a good thing. Stocks are directly related to the success of companies, which hire people, drive the economy, and build national success. Doesn't mean things are great all around, but the markets are a good indicator that economic factors are getting better.
 
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The vice presidents job isn't to run the country, it's to help the president run the country. I didn't know anything about her really until she moved into the spotlight, but If you're thinking she's not a smart capable woman, maybe you should watch how she kicked Trump's butt to the curb and played him like a fool in the debate. Doesn't matter why she was given the opportunity, she's more than proven she's an excellent choice.
Did I say what I was thinking ? Did I question her capabilities ? No. Does it matter why she was given the opportunity ? Yes.
Media and Dems having been going on about Republican racism, calling her a DEI, but what's wrong with calling a spade, a spade. ( Not racist, just a term I grew up with. Younger generations might not be familiar with it.) Personally I think it's just a bit hypocritical on the part of the Dems and particularly on the part of Biden. Let's be realistic, they can't admit to it. All they can do is support her and be glad she's not a Dan Quayle. https://www.bauer.uh.edu/rsusmel/Other/Quayle.htm
 

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I do believe Harris is more than qualified to be president and the choice couldn't be clearer. I don't understand we are even talking about this when the contrast is a no brainer. If anybody thinks she is not qualified to be president, then what do you think of orange turd?
It is beyond my comprehension how one candidate has a lifelong career of law enforcement and service to others, the other candidate is a semi-senile criminal and rapist with a history of trying to overthrow the government and the polls are showing very little difference between the two. Are polls really that bad or are yanks really such morons?
 

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It is beyond my comprehension how one candidate has a lifelong career of law enforcement and service to others, the other candidate is a semi-senile criminal and rapist with a history of trying to overthrow the government and the polls are showing very little difference between the two. Are polls really that bad or are yanks really such morons?
A bit of both i believe and you must assume the same for asking ...in a rhetorical type of way ... as everything is turning political in the US.

Any video out there with open comments is turning political us vs them . Its nauseating and we as Canadian are slowly following the trend sadly .
 

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What do you think of Harris's Oprah interview.

I feel any High School person could write her replies of questions.

The Real Reason Kamala Harris Is So Unlikable (Caught on Live TV) - YouTube

If she does not win, her replies of " I grew up in a middle class neighborhood " will be a meme. I do think her handlers have caught on and she has not said that last week.

Watch the end, Oprah greeted Harris with a big smile and hug at the start. At the end Oprah gave a distant body handshake and a simple thank you without any other remark. Oprah just wanted that Hallmark card BS to end. I think people like Trump's true self at the debate going 3 vs 1 and showing real fire and passion versus these staged remarks. He is winning Nov 5th.
 
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Did I say what I was thinking ? Did I question her capabilities ? No. Does it matter why she was given the opportunity ? Yes.
Media and Dems having been going on about Republican racism, calling her a DEI, but what's wrong with calling a spade, a spade. ( Not racist, just a term I grew up with. Younger generations might not be familiar with it.) Personally I think it's just a bit hypocritical on the part of the Dems and particularly on the part of Biden. Let's be realistic, they can't admit to it. All they can do is support her and be glad she's not a Dan Quayle. https://www.bauer.uh.edu/rsusmel/Other/Quayle.htm
You don't need to say what you're thinking if it's obvious from the context of the discussion. if you're not questioning her capabilities then your point is invalid and you're conceding that she wasn't a "DEI hire" which implies hired specifically for a set of attributes that are not related to competency. Does it matter why she was given the opportunity? Yes. it's obviously because of her skills, education and other relevant qualities (since you're not questioning her capabilities you obviously agree). Ranting on about someone being hired based on minority attributes is utterly irrelevant in the face of demonstrated competency. They don't need to admit to something that is demonstrably inaccurate.
Calling a spade a spade is when you are espousing a truth that is difficult to accept. Let's call a spade a spade. Harris was hired for her education and skills. You don't have to like it since it would fit your narrative better if she wasn't qualified... but the fact is that she is qualified and trying to belittle her by implying that she isn't is simply factually inaccurate. The problem with logic is that all the data needs to support your claim.. not just the data that you want to look at.
Sorry to break it to you but your argument has more holes than a sieve.
 

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I think people like Trump's true self at the debate going 3 vs 1 and showing real fire and passion versus these staged remarks. He is winning Nov 5th.
I don't think we watched the same debate. I didn't see any real fire and passion.. I saw an inability to separate ego from reality, a narcissistic knee-jerk response to highly entertaining an accurate criticism and slurs and attacks from him that are predictable and erroneous. The man uses the same school yard bully responses over and over fantasizing about how nobody will question the veracity of his statements and turning petulant when he's fact checked. Even the Republican media acknowledges that Harris controlled and won the debate and that Trump couldn't control himself. The looks she was giving him made me laugh out loud.. it was like watching somebody listening to the ranting of a senile old man. "my rally's are the biggest rallies.. the biggest rallies in the history of politics" "my policies are the best policies.. probably the best policies ever thought of" (even if they're only concepts), "they're eating the cats and dogs", kind of sad really. I hope his jail cell is padded so he can't hurt himself.
 

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What do you think of Harris's Oprah interview.

I feel any High School person could write her replies of questions.

The Real Reason Kamala Harris Is So Unlikable (Caught on Live TV) - YouTube

If she does not win, her replies of " I grew up in a middle class neighborhood " will be a meme. I do think her handlers have caught on and she has not said that last week.

Watch the end, Oprah greeted Harris with a big smile and hug at the start. At the end Oprah gave a distant body handshake and a simple thank you without any other remark. Oprah just wanted that Hallmark card BS to end. I think people like Trump's true self at the debate going 3 vs 1 and showing real fire and passion versus these staged remarks. He is winning Nov 5th.
I bet Trump wishes someone with real standing, who is admired and looked up to by millions like Oprah, not to mention celebrities with serious pull like Taylor Swift, Billie Eilish and all the others that have endorsed Harris have done.... would endorse him.. Fortunately it's not going to happen. Anybody with half a brain realizes that hitching your wagon to Trump is asking for an express ride to jail when he leaves you holding the bag and runs away with the money.
 

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What do you think of Harris's Oprah interview.

I feel any High School person could write her replies of questions.

The Real Reason Kamala Harris Is So Unlikable (Caught on Live TV) - YouTube

If she does not win, her replies of " I grew up in a middle class neighborhood " will be a meme. I do think her handlers have caught on and she has not said that last week.

Watch the end, Oprah greeted Harris with a big smile and hug at the start. At the end Oprah gave a distant body handshake and a simple thank you without any other remark. Oprah just wanted that Hallmark card BS to end. I think people like Trump's true self at the debate going 3 vs 1 and showing real fire and passion versus these staged remarks. He is winning Nov 5th.
What in the debate did you think orange turd make a sensible argument? Coz I couldn’t find one. 3 vs 1? What made you say that? Or was it bcoz it’s orange turd talking point after he lost the debate? If you were referring to him being fact checked, which part did you think the moderators were wrong with fact checking his lies? Or maybe you think they’re not lies but facts like eating the pets of the people that live there.
 
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You don't need to say what you're thinking if it's obvious from the context of the discussion. if you're not questioning her capabilities then your point is invalid and you're conceding that she wasn't a "DEI hire" which implies hired specifically for a set of attributes that are not related to competency. Does it matter why she was given the opportunity? Yes. it's obviously because of her skills, education and other relevant qualities (since you're not questioning her capabilities you obviously agree). Ranting on about someone being hired based on minority attributes is utterly irrelevant in the face of demonstrated competency. They don't need to admit to something that is demonstrably inaccurate.
Calling a spade a spade is when you are espousing a truth that is difficult to accept. Let's call a spade a spade. Harris was hired for her education and skills. You don't have to like it since it would fit your narrative better if she wasn't qualified... but the fact is that she is qualified and trying to belittle her by implying that she isn't is simply factually inaccurate. The problem with logic is that all the data needs to support your claim.. not just the data that you want to look at.
Sorry to break it to you but your argument has more holes than a sieve.
You sure like jumping to conclusions don't you ? You make what on the surface looks like a good argument, but damn you paddling down the wrong river.
 
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