USA Political Thread 2024

[masterpoonhunter]

Saw a couple of rather meaningful memes the other day about the state of the US politics:

 

[oldshark]

 

[thevalleydude]

There has been many conspiracy theories circulating since J Biden took office. Somehow it’s Obama secretly running the country behind. That it’s going to be H Clinton or Michelle Obama who is going to run in 2024 and now Biden somehow going to declare martial law and stage a coup and not leave office when orange turd wins. 🤣😂🤣😂 some people seems to forget or perhaps refuse to accept that it was Trump who tried to stage a coup on J6 and now they are trying to spin it that it’s JBiden who is going to be doing it. Where did that come from? Yah right! Good luck with that narrative when the obvious true is not on their side. Orange turd said he will be a dictator in day one, he said he will trash the constitution, he will seek revenge and retribution, lies about everything he said and incited an insurrection, make promises that never happen, cheat people with his stupid university, bankrupt many of his companies including a casino?? And expect people with their right mind to still believe him? Be ready America and the world. JBiden will declare Martial Law and stay in power if orange turd wins!!! That’s now the new narrative of some. 🤣😂🤣 Truth and facts please people not innuendos. 🤣

… oh!, they forgot to mention that Biden will cheat and steal the election again. What a loser these guy is.

There is no current theory out there but merely something I thought...what if that happened because it is a possibility.... so I asked how you....or anyone would feel if Biden did refuse to leave and no one answered,....just another rant and a few memes. Thanks... but would you support Biden refusing to leave the WH if he loses just to keep the "Orange Turd" out of office? After all according to your side which is rapidly shrinking to a minority in much of the western world how can America have a convicted felon, insurrectionist become President.



And in return here is the guy most of you would vote for (if you could) in action ...a guy who "grew up in a black church" This is elder abuse and he should be sent to a nursing home. But the Democrats have no one else.....and no issues to run on except abortion and Trump is a threat to democracy. Well...he might as well try to pander to the disappearing black vote.

 

[oldshark]

If Biden refused to leave, I would condemn him. Simple. Don't think that most of advocating against Trump are going to use his tactics. Most of us are far better than Trump.

And to your comment saying that the Democrats only have abortion and the threat to democracy. If people vote for Trump he is a guy who;

• will give up the Ukraine to his boss Putin
• will turn over the economy to the rich and the American oligarchs
• will get rid of social security and medicare
• all economic policy in the US will be transactional - want to pollute, give him money
• want a pardon - give him money or loyalty
• gut the regulators so there will be chaos
• and there are issues.........

The problem with the Democrats is that they are terrible at messaging against such an accomplished liar.

 

[oldshark]

There is no current theory out there but merely something I thought...what if that happened because it is a possibility.... so I asked how you....or anyone would feel if Biden did refuse to leave and no one answered,....just another rant and a few memes. Thanks... but would you support Biden refusing to leave the WH if he loses just to keep the "Orange Turd" out of office? After all according to your side which is rapidly shrinking to a minority in much of the western world how can America have a convicted felon, insurrectionist become President.



And in return here is the guy most of you would vote for (if you could) in action ...a guy who "grew up in a black church" This is elder abuse and he should be sent to a nursing home. But the Democrats have no one else.....and no issues to run on except abortion and Trump is a threat to democracy. Well...he might as well try to pander to the disappearing black vote.

 

[thevalleydude]

If Biden refused to leave, I would condemn him. Simple. Don't think that most of advocating against Trump are going to use his tactics. Most of us are far better than Trump.

And to your comment saying that the Democrats only have abortion and the threat to democracy. If people vote for Trump he is a guy who;

• will give up the Ukraine to his boss Putin
• will turn over the economy to the rich and the American oligarchs
• will get rid of social security and medicare
• all economic policy in the US will be transactional - want to pollute, give him money
• want a pardon - give him money or loyalty
• gut the regulators so there will be chaos
• and there are issues.........

The problem with the Democrats is that they are terrible at messaging against such an accomplished liar.

The problem with the Democrats is that they are terrible at running a country. Looking down a list you will find that the main concerns of American citizens are
1/The economy and inflation
2/ illegal immigration
3/Foreign policy
4/Crime and public safety

Prosecuting Trump is much further down the list as people are more concerned with just surviving right now in a very expensive and increasingly dangerous world.

The Democrats have been an abject failure in dealing with any of these issues, in fact they have created many of these problems themselves.
76% of Americans believe that their country is heading in the wrong direction and Biden himself looks feeble and mentally incapable of lasting much longer as President. The problem is that the VP is even more disliked than he is and it will be difficult if not impossible for them to get rid of what was basically a pandering diversity hire of an unqualified candidate
.
Both candidates are disliked by the country but Americans did not see Trump as getting rid of health care or social security which would be a disaster for any sitting government to attempt to do in any event. They also view the attempts to jail, bankrupt Trump while keeping him off the campaign trail by tying him up in court proceedings as election interference of the leading candidate of the opposition and its why all their attempts to do so backfire and only end up with him leading by larger margins in polls. They are either inadvertently or stupidly creating a martyr.

I note that nothing in your list applies to positive things that Democrats would do to make their lives better, its mostly again...anti Trump projections fueled by mainstream media pundits, most of which are Democrat leaning as they control virtually all the outlets which you read or watch from Disney to NBC to the Washington Post to the Daily Beast to Google and despite that they still seem unable to convince Americans to vote for Biden. Whether or not Trump will actually attempt to do any of the things you suggest is pure speculation at this point.

Its not that Trump is an accomplished liar...he is actually a pretty obvious one, but more that most people, with definite exceptions on here, have lost trust in the legacy media and are thinking for themselves rather than following daily instructions from Morning Joe or the View on who to vote for and that is reflected in the dropping TV ratings and circulation numbers. CNN has almost completely dropped off the map and YouTubers like Tim Pool have almost if not larger viewer numbers than they do.

And again...I will point out that the last decade or so of woke Liberalism has caused a huge backlash among the population of Western countries as they fight to keep their own cultures and separate identities as can be seen in the just finished European Union elections and soon to be seen in Canada when Trudeau is finally forced to face the public vote.

Lastly Trump has been able to lure over disaffected Hispanic and black voters as voting hispanics are also mostly against the Biden border policy and as mainly Catholics are strongly opposed to abortion while black voters see Democrats as a party which only panders to them at voting time and once in power ignores them until the next election. They also remember that the Trump years before covid were better ones financially for them as a whole than the Biden years have been. The 10% increase in the voting switch of mostly male blacks from Biden to Trump alone is enough to assure his re election in November. The Democrats are the masters of their own demise.

Hence its why I speculate that the actual concern may turn out to be whether or not Biden will turn over the White House when he loses because at this point in time it certainly looks to be a Trump victory though things can change. However: Trying to take him off the ballot didnt work. Calling him a nazi didnt work. Calling him an insurrectionist didnt work. Calling him a convicted felon isnt working either. What other tools do Democrats have up their sleeve to prevent him getting back in power? It will be an interesting election season.

 

[dare.devil]

The problem with the Democrats is that they are terrible at running a country. Looking down a list you will find that the main concerns of American citizens are
1/The economy and inflation
2/ illegal immigration
3/Foreign policy
4/Crime and public safety

Prosecuting Trump is much further down the list as people are more concerned with just surviving right now in a very expensive and increasingly dangerous world.

The Democrats have been an abject failure in dealing with any of these issues, in fact they have created many of these problems themselves.
76% of Americans believe that their country is heading in the wrong direction and Biden himself looks feeble and mentally incapable of lasting much longer as President. The problem is that the VP is even more disliked than he is and it will be difficult if not impossible for them to get rid of what was basically a pandering diversity hire of an unqualified candidate
.
Both candidates are disliked by the country but Americans did not see Trump as getting rid of health care or social security which would be a disaster for any sitting government to attempt to do in any event. They also view the attempts to jail, bankrupt Trump while keeping him off the campaign trail by tying him up in court proceedings as election interference of the leading candidate of the opposition and its why all their attempts to do so backfire and only end up with him leading by larger margins in polls. They are either inadvertently or stupidly creating a martyr.

I note that nothing in your list applies to positive things that Democrats would do to make their lives better, its mostly again...anti Trump projections fueled by mainstream media pundits, most of which are Democrat leaning as they control virtually all the outlets which you read or watch from Disney to NBC to the Washington Post to the Daily Beast to Google and despite that they still seem unable to convince Americans to vote for Biden. Whether or not Trump will actually attempt to do any of the things you suggest is pure speculation at this point.

Its not that Trump is an accomplished liar...he is actually a pretty obvious one, but more that most people, with definite exceptions on here, have lost trust in the legacy media and are thinking for themselves rather than following daily instructions from Morning Joe or the View on who to vote for and that is reflected in the dropping TV ratings and circulation numbers. CNN has almost completely dropped off the map and YouTubers like Tim Pool have almost if not larger viewer numbers than they do.

And again...I will point out that the last decade or so of woke Liberalism has caused a huge backlash among the population of Western countries as they fight to keep their own cultures and separate identities as can be seen in the just finished European Union elections and soon to be seen in Canada when Trudeau is finally forced to face the public vote.

Lastly Trump has been able to lure over disaffected Hispanic and black voters as voting hispanics are also mostly against the Biden border policy and as mainly Catholics are strongly opposed to abortion while black voters see Democrats as a party which only panders to them at voting time and once in power ignores them until the next election. They also remember that the Trump years before covid were better ones financially for them as a whole than the Biden years have been. The 10% increase in the voting switch of mostly male blacks from Biden to Trump alone is enough to assure his re election in November. The Democrats are the masters of their own demise.

Hence its why I speculate that the actual concern may turn out to be whether or not Biden will turn over the White House when he loses because at this point in time it certainly looks to be a Trump victory though things can change. However: Trying to take him off the ballot didnt work. Calling him a nazi didnt work. Calling him an insurrectionist didnt work. Calling him a convicted felon isnt working either. What other tools do Democrats have up their sleeve to prevent him getting back in power? It will be an interesting election season.

You took a time to write so much on the topic with many good points. What will you get in return is, a crazy meme or orange turd bashing. This disussion is pointless, I stopped taking it seriosuly long ago.

 

[se7landrover97]

If Biden refused to leave, I would condemn him. Simple. Don't think that most of advocating against Trump are going to use his tactics. Most of us are far better than Trump.

And to your comment saying that the Democrats only have abortion and the threat to democracy. If people vote for Trump he is a guy who;

• will give up the Ukraine to his boss Putin
• will turn over the economy to the rich and the American oligarchs
• will get rid of social security and medicare
• all economic policy in the US will be transactional - want to pollute, give him money
• want a pardon - give him money or loyalty
• gut the regulators so there will be chaos
• and there are issues.........

The problem with the Democrats is that they are terrible at messaging against such an accomplished liar.

I think we are all better than orange turd's followers. Yes, me too. I'll definitely call JBiden out and condemn him for wanting to stay if he loses for sure. 4 years after he was voted out, he and his followers still don't want to admit they lost. They engage only in hyperbole, conjectures and speculations w/o facts. What makes them even think people in their right mind won't accept the result of the election? Oh! I got it! they think all people should think and feel like them. It's just a simple case of self projection. Just bcoz we don't agree doesn't mean we will start acting like a child.

 

[dare.devil]

I think we are all better than orange turd's followers. Yes, me too. I'll definitely call JBiden out and condemn him for wanting to stay if he loses for sure. 4 years after her was voted out, he and his followers still don't want to admit they lost. They engage only in hyperbole, conjectures and speculations w/o facts. What makes them even think people in their right mind won't accept the result of the election? Oh! I got it! they think all people should think and feel like them. It's just a simple case of self-projection. Just bcoz we don't agree doesn't mean we will start acting like a child.

Do you remember the "Not My President" movement? You see Russian interference is still in memes, it was debunked completely false. Oh yeah and when we say wars fueled by Democrats that's not even happening. Mostly peaceful protests and so on. I think you are better than right wingers but not what you are thinking of.

 

[Crookedmember]

Wait a sec. Someone explain this to me like I'm six.

Kevin Spacey was cleared of all sexual assault charges in court . . .

yet he's almost bankrupt and can't get acting jobs.


But Donald Trump was found guilty of rape and 92 other felony counts . . .

but he's GOP nominee for president?

This doesn't make sense. Why is an actor held to a higher standard than a candidate for POTUS?

 

[se7landrover97]

"The problem with the Democrats is that they are terrible at running a country. Looking down a list you will find that the main concerns of American citizens are
1/The economy and inflation
2/ illegal immigration
3/Foreign policy
4/Crime and public safety"

Seriously?!? Economy was and is better when a dem is in the WH. Obama was able to turn around one of the worse economy (sub prime) left by President Bush so has Biden. BClinton, left Bush one of the healthiest economy. Trump messed up Obama economy with his mishandling of the covid and added $8T of debt. Inflation? it's worldwide! It's happening everywhere. Tell Putin to stop the stupid war and you'll see world inflation easing. If trump didn't fck up his handling of covid perhaps Americans won't be complaining so much. Besides, America is in better shape now compare with other G7 countries. What are they whining about? Just look at the data. Illegal Immigration? Hellooooo? Wasn't it orange turd caused the bipartisan immigration bill to fail?? A bill filed by one of the most conservative republicans in the senate. And for what?? For them to have something to run on in this election. Crime and public safety? Read and look at the data. They are down now. Even gun violence is so far down. Foreign policy? Stupid Trump wants to dissolve NATO isn't it?🤦‍♂️ All for what? To hand America and the rest of the free loving countries to Putin and Xi. Just listen to what this turd💩 is saying. No need to look far. 🤣

 

[se7landrover97]

...how about the HBiden conviction and the indictment of two dem congressman and senator? First in US history. The son of a seating president indicted and found felony guilty of crimes. Do the far right still thinks there is politicization of the DOJ? They just don't want to look at the totality of the situation but cheery pick what they want to discuss . But even that, they aren't making a good argument. 🙄

 

[LLLurkJ2]

...how about the HBiden conviction and the indictment of two dem congressman and senator? First in US history. The son of a seating president indicted and found felony guilty of crimes. Do the far right still thinks their is politicization of the DOJ? They just don't want to look at the totality of the situation but cheery pick what they want to discuss . But even that, they aren't making a good argument. 🙄

I dont know why you'd spend so much time typing up logical valid responses as you'll only be met with the Republican talking point of the day they were programmed with. I stopped litening to their deluded adulations of the criminal narcassist scumbag Trump a long time ago.😐

 

[dare.devil]

https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/prediction-model/president

Just want to see what will happen to orange turd haters, if this becomes actual result

 

[oldshark]

https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/prediction-model/president

Just want to see what will happen to orange turd haters, if this becomes actual result

Life will continue but just under an ugly atmosphere. The Turd will always spew his crap and his followers will swallow whole. Things will get worse until it all breaks.

 

[dare.devil]

Life will continue but just under an ugly atmosphere. The Turd will always spew his crap and his followers will swallow whole. Things will get worse until it all breaks.

Will see once it happens, I will also see the below list, how many gets the tick marks as I didnt notice any such thing in his past presidency.

• will give up the Ukraine to his boss Putin
• will turn over the economy to the rich and the American oligarchs
• will get rid of social security and medicare
• all economic policy in the US will be transactional - want to pollute, give him money
• want a pardon - give him money or loyalty
• gut the regulators so there will be chaos
• and there are issues........

But pls request your left friends not to burn down cities with mostly peaceful protests.

 

[Equity Market investor]

Yes, this is worth quoting. But I have a gut feeling mental senile Biden is gonna pull out a win. I wouldn't wager a bet against him.

Will see once it happens, I will also see the below list, how many gets the tick marks as I didnt notice any such thing in his past presidency.



But pls request your left friends not to burn down cities with mostly peaceful protests.

If Biden refused to leave, I would condemn him. Simple. Don't think that most of advocating against Trump are going to use his tactics. Most of us are far better than Trump.

And to your comment saying that the Democrats only have abortion and the threat to democracy. If people vote for Trump he is a guy who;

• will give up the Ukraine to his boss Putin
• will turn over the economy to the rich and the American oligarchs
• will get rid of social security and medicare
• all economic policy in the US will be transactional - want to pollute, give him money
• want a pardon - give him money or loyalty
• gut the regulators so there will be chaos
• and there are issues.........

The problem with the Democrats is that they are terrible at messaging against such an accomplished liar.

 

[oldshark]

Will see once it happens, I will also see the below list, how many gets the tick marks as I didnt notice any such thing in his past presidency.



But pls request your left friends not to burn down cities with mostly peaceful protests.

Well, I do not have any leftish friends, they are typically just as bad as the right wingers on this board.

 

[oldshark]

And watch Trump in the next few weeks. He is degrading faster than Biden. Dementia is coming for him...................

 

[oldshark]

Well, I have to sign off for a while, no more time to waste. Going to Europe for seven weeks. Next week I will be putting flowers on the graves on my relatives. Those who suffered under the Nazis and those later who were persecuted by the Communists. And I will thinking of some of you. I need to recharge my batteries. Because one needs strength against vile evil!