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Stacking courts so they resemble the Catholic Church, more than they resemble the American people.

I disagree. American "Catholics" are more like the rest of the US religious/political right, than they are like real Catholics in the rest of the world.
 
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Did he really prevented H.Clinton from becoming president? I thought it was James Comey
Hillary Clinton prevented Hillary Clinton from becoming president.

She could have lost to a random B-grade celebrity. Oh wait, she did.
 
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I have no faith that the US court system will actually succeed in punishing Trump for any wrongdoings he actually did. It's a system built to let guys like him get off scot free, and anyways at the top of it sit 9 people where a clear majority are partisans who answer to him.

Of all the things Trump could be charged & convicted for, it being the USA, the one most likely to result in actual conviction is the one involving sex.
 

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Ok this is next level unhinged. Please list the incidents where Trump supporters murdered anyone.

TDS should be a certifiable mental illness.
Michael McKinney, Joseph Czuba, Clifton Blackwell, Anthony Cornello, Igor Lanis, Kyle Rittenhouse, Cesar Sayoc, Patrick Stein, Curtis Allen, Gavin Wright, Alexandre Bissonnette, Michael Hari, Michael McWhorter, Joe Morris, James Alex Fields Jr, Nikolas Cruz, Jeremy Christian, Sean Urbanski, Dimitrios Pagourtzis, Daniel Perry, John Martin Roos, Henry Slapnik, Daniel Ruve, Frank Nucera are all Trump supporters who have murdered or attempted murdered. The number of Trump supporters who have threatened people by mail, phone calls, etc. is much longer. The list of physical violence is fairly long as well.

I figure that the names of the accused and/or sentenced is enough. You can look up the incidents and dates yourself. I am sure that you will be able to pick out a couple of names and maybe disprove but I am only trying to show a pattern of violence. Every talks about Antifa violence and it does exist but Magat violence also exists. A lock of sick fuckers and their supporters out there.
 

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Said completely without any irony at all, this critique is like a ref that ignores the instigator and penalizes the retaliator. The United States political scene has always been about identity politics (especially race) and puritanism of every sort under the sun.

The "culture war" thing has been pushed by both sides since (at least by that name) since Nixon, probably if one's realistic, all the way back to the end of Reconstruction / building of the Jim Crow era, and maybe even right back to that nation's founding.

Red baiting, race hysteria, satanic panic, Iraq War, conspiracy pandemonium etc. meet political correctness, wokeism, critical race theory, etc. - the USA's cultural origins are in the Puritans, and their politics have always been about sitting in judgement upon the lives of others, but never being judged themselves. Regardless of what group, ideology or religion it supposedly comes from, the mentality holds true. Why debate an issue or win an election fair and square when you can simply deny the Other the right to even be heard at all? As the tech people joke "that's a feature, not a bug". Even their relations with all other nations are marked by this sort of fundamentalist hypocrisy.

The age of the internet has only weaponized that aspect of their society, and the awful parallel political development called "permanent campaigning" means that machine of culture war is switched on 24/7/365.

It will go on until the Americans blunder into the final apocalyptic reckoning they all seem to want. Unfortunately, their sort of politics has been spread to other nations like some kind of plague of bullshit. They are determined to drag the whole world into hell with them.
So those crazy ass Puritans are the root cause of everything wrong in the good old USA!

Who knew?

This is truly a revelation!

LMFAO!!!!!!!
 

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Michael McKinney, Joseph Czuba, Clifton Blackwell, Anthony Cornello, Igor Lanis, Kyle Rittenhouse, Cesar Sayoc, Patrick Stein, Curtis Allen, Gavin Wright, Alexandre Bissonnette, Michael Hari, Michael McWhorter, Joe Morris, James Alex Fields Jr, Nikolas Cruz, Jeremy Christian, Sean Urbanski, Dimitrios Pagourtzis, Daniel Perry, John Martin Roos, Henry Slapnik, Daniel Ruve, Frank Nucera are all Trump supporters who have murdered or attempted murdered. The number of Trump supporters who have threatened people by mail, phone calls, etc. is much longer. The list of physical violence is fairly long as well.

I figure that the names of the accused and/or sentenced is enough. You can look up the incidents and dates yourself. I am sure that you will be able to pick out a couple of names and maybe disprove but I am only trying to show a pattern of violence. Every talks about Antifa violence and it does exist but Magat violence also exists. A lock of sick fuckers and their supporters out there.
I've never heard of any of these people.

Except for Kyle Rittenhouse.

That guy is a hero.

I wish there were more like him.
 
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I hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings.

I thought we were all adults here.

Maybe I'm wrong.

Not about Rittenhouse though.

He's a hero.
Questions

How would fare a young black man in camo armed with an AR-15 rifle going a state over to police a white supremacist crowd / rally ?

Would he even be allowed by law enforcement to get close to the crowd or even go free ?
 
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Questions

How would fare a young black man in camo armed with an AR-15 rifle going a state over to police a white supremacist crowd / rally ?

Would he even be allowed by law enforcement to get close to the crowd or even go free ?
Hypotheticals are always interesting.

What if?

What if an old Asian man in pajamas armed with hand grenades crossed the state line and went to a Taylor Swift concert?

I guess we'll have to wait until that happens.

I don't know what your point is?

Maybe you don't have one.

Review the facts of the case.

Rittenhouse plead self defense and was acquitted.

The facts of the case are easily available.

It's pretty straightforward.
 

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I think people are going to throw the bums out in November 24. They remember the prices we all paid before Biden took over and I swear it seemed like one week into his regime that Inflation took off.

Its not stopping. Every supermarket, Walmart, gas trip I feel it.

Went to my fav Chinese take out, rice and one item is 10 bucks with tax. You want a soda, or pop. Make it close to 14 bucks. If you have a family of 4 56 bucks, no wonder everyone working multiple jobs now or can't miss a day of work. I don't see why Airports are busy who can afford travel besides people with great pensions.

Outside of CA, NY, Illinois, people are upset. Maybe Democrats don't pay inflation prices? Is there a secret club for them at stores
 
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Hypotheticals are always interesting.

What if?

What if an old Asian man in pajamas armed with hand grenades crossed the state line and went to a Taylor Swift concert?

I guess we'll have to wait until that happens.

I don't know what your point is?

Maybe you don't have one.

Review the facts of the case.

Rittenhouse plead self defense and was acquitted.

The facts of the case are easily available.

It's pretty straightforward.

No point discussing the matter then.

Not to worry I know the facts of the case , background, etc

It's one thing to understand and put yourself in his shoes but to call Rittenhouse a hero it's totally another .

Better read the definition of a hero young man... No sacrifice on his part , no saving lives and certainly no gallantry as he drove miles to seek trouble.
 

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I think people are going to throw the bums out in November 24. They remember the prices we all paid before Biden took over and I swear it seemed like one week into his regime that Inflation took off.

Its not stopping. Every supermarket, Walmart, gas trip I feel it.

Went to my fav Chinese take out, rice and one item is 10 bucks with tax. You want a soda, or pop. Make it close to 14 bucks. If you have a family of 4 56 bucks, no wonder everyone working multiple jobs now or can't miss a day of work. I don't see why Airports are busy who can afford travel besides people with great pensions.

Outside of CA, NY, Illinois, people are upset. Maybe Democrats don't pay inflation prices? Is there a secret club for them at stores
You gotta travel through the states, Mexico and other countries that we are all in the same boat about inflation. 2 beers , 2 drinks , a quesadilla and 3 tacos in Cozumel $ 105 US and I could give you examples from other destinations to fill the page . Which means Trudeau, Biden , Obrador and their colleagues are not in control of that inflation as it's an international/multinational/conglomerate thing . It will be reign in but at a high interest costs as it as always been controlled with. Not by our leaders
 

Drjohn

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No point discussing the matter then.

Not to worry I know the facts of the case , background, etc

It's one thing to understand and put yourself in his shoes but to call Rittenhouse a hero it's totally another .

Better read the definition of a hero young man... No sacrifice on his part , no saving lives and certainly no gallantry as he drove miles to seek trouble.
At the time of the incident, "progressive" mobs were destroying Kenosha Wisconsin.

Mr. Rittenhouse took it upon himself to help protect businesses from looting and arson.

Apparently some members of the mob weren't happy with this and took it upon themselves to attack Mr. Rittenhouse.

Mr Rittenhouse defended himself and the attackers were killed in the process.

The men killed were a convicted child molester and petty criminal respectively.

Burning and looting can be fun until it isn't.

This is a classic example of fuck around and find out.
 

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Talk about a thread degenerating into complete bovine scatology.

The trolling in this thread is as bad as it gets. Not even with intelligence or sophistication, just fucking outright trolling. Not a dialog just a flame war. And not in the least bit entertaining. Mind you that is all they got, trolling without the wits to back it all up.

Call them out fellow perbites, you know who they are. Let them respond then let it all fade away. Trolls without feedback just crawl back under their rocks.
 

Drjohn

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Talk about a thread degenerating into complete bovine scatology.

The trolling in this thread is as bad as it gets. Not even with intelligence or sophistication, just fucking outright trolling. Not a dialog just a flame war. And not in the least bit entertaining. Mind you that is all they got, trolling without the wits to back it all up.

Call them out fellow perbites, you know who they are. Let them respond then let it all fade away. Trolls without feedback just crawl back under their rocks.
If in the course of making their point or argument, someone says something that is factually incorrect, it's possible that someone will "call them out".

That's not trolling.

The op had included Kyle Rittenhouse in a group of people the he described as murderers.

That is factually incorrect.

The original poster is entitled to his opinion.

I'm sorry if the level of discourse is not meeting your expectations.

I guess we'll all have to try and do better.
 

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If in the course of making their point or argument, someone says something that is factually incorrect, it's possible that someone will "call them out".

That's not trolling.

The op had included Kyle Rittenhouse in a group of people the he described as murderers.

That is factually incorrect.

The original poster is entitled to his opinion.

I'm sorry if the level of discourse is not meeting your expectations.

I guess we'll all have to try and do better.
No no... you can try to spin it but calling Rittenhouse a hero is trolling or at the very least fishing for a reaction.

And I have to say that I bit at your s......d statement even if I know better ....my only excuse is that I was killing time .
 
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No no... you can try to spin it but calling Rittenhouse a hero is trolling or at the very least fishing for a reaction.

And I have to say that I bit at your s......d statement even if I know better ....my only excuse is that I was killing time .
One person's hero can be another person's villain.

Either you're a fan of law and order in general, or you're on the side of the "mostly peaceful protest" crowd.

We are getting a bit off topic.

Where were we?

Oh yes...ORANGE MAN BAD!!!

Oops, trolling again.
 
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