USA Political Thread 2024
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Frump is the ONLY politician in history to NeVEr HONoR AlL OF hIS ELECTION PROMISES!!!
Meanwhile where is that raise in the minimum wage or the Public Health Care option that would have reduced health costs for the uninsured that Biden promised...then conveniently forgot about. Even worse are the actions that Biden did not promise that are causing the biggest damage....the overturning of Trumps executive orders to re open the southern border again and flood their country with illegals....then giving them preferential treatment over American citizens, the sloppy end to the war in Afghanistan and the funding of an unwinnable war without direct NATO and US involvement in Ukraine which is costing their taxpayers and ours....billions of dollars. Biden had promised to keep America out of never ending wars btw. That promise didnt last long.
At some time you just have to call BS on Bidens nonsense (even if the alternative is Trump)....and at the moment that seems very likely to happen this November.
I do appreciate the tactic of hiding behind memes to prevent having to voice opinions in your own words that could come under criticism. Very clever but it shows a lack of confidence.
The strongest border security bill in decades was just killed because Trump and the Republicans who adore him decided it was better to be able to whine about the border as an election issue than actually fix the problem. Trump had an open field to fix the border and he did exactly nothing to fix the problem, his executive orders were band-aids, and several No-Trump Republicans have called him out on it. Biden is a doddering old fool, but at least he's got competent people around him to prevent real damage from being done. Trump is also a senile pile of crap, who surrounds himself with yes men and sycophants. Every single competent person from his first term has made public statements about his not being fit for office. You know, the best of the best he was going to hire, only to fire the ones who dared tell him no.
His only platform appears to be lying about an issue until enough people believe it and taking hypocritical shots at Biden. Has he even produced an actual campaign platform? What does he even stand for, besides lining his own pockets? His political donations are paying his personal legal bills. It's actually mind boggling that any American with a functioning brain even considers voting for Trump again. I am well old enough to remember Ronald Reagan. That's what a conservative looks like. Trump isn't conservative, he isn't religious except when it suits him to pretend to be, hawking a bible for money from working people is utterly insane. He doesn't give a shit about abortion except as a way to get votes from Pro-life folks. He doesn't believe in anything at all, except Donald Trump. Honestly, if you cannot see this with Trump, you are part of the issue, you are ignoring reality. Water is wet, the sky on a sunny day is blue and Trump is an epic disaster as a human being, let alone the President. All proven facts.
It's a choice between wasting four years and keeping the country running with Biden, or putting Trump back in office and quite possibly breaking the country, and the world beyond repair. He gives Putin the Ukraine and potentially kills NATO and who knows what else. He might even find a way to kill democracy itself, he's tried several times already.
For the record, I don't give a damn about it anymore. I believe in facts, not spin. The USA is far better off without both of those old men, getting someone who can actually speak coherently would be a great start. But if it's your choice and if you are choosing Trump, you really need to look at this again and be honest with yourself about why. If it is actually because you believe in him, sorry then you are, as Trump puts it, a low IQ individual. Now I know using logic and facts in this debate is wasting my breath, but every now and then I just have to get this frustration off my chest. I will now get off my soapbox and let the usual suspects rant and rave with their usual lack of consideration of reality.
His only platform appears to be lying about an issue until enough people believe it and taking hypocritical shots at Biden. Has he even produced an actual campaign platform? What does he even stand for, besides lining his own pockets? His political donations are paying his personal legal bills. It's actually mind boggling that any American with a functioning brain even considers voting for Trump again. I am well old enough to remember Ronald Reagan. That's what a conservative looks like. Trump isn't conservative, he isn't religious except when it suits him to pretend to be, hawking a bible for money from working people is utterly insane. He doesn't give a shit about abortion except as a way to get votes from Pro-life folks. He doesn't believe in anything at all, except Donald Trump. Honestly, if you cannot see this with Trump, you are part of the issue, you are ignoring reality. Water is wet, the sky on a sunny day is blue and Trump is an epic disaster as a human being, let alone the President. All proven facts.
It's a choice between wasting four years and keeping the country running with Biden, or putting Trump back in office and quite possibly breaking the country, and the world beyond repair. He gives Putin the Ukraine and potentially kills NATO and who knows what else. He might even find a way to kill democracy itself, he's tried several times already.
For the record, I don't give a damn about it anymore. I believe in facts, not spin. The USA is far better off without both of those old men, getting someone who can actually speak coherently would be a great start. But if it's your choice and if you are choosing Trump, you really need to look at this again and be honest with yourself about why. If it is actually because you believe in him, sorry then you are, as Trump puts it, a low IQ individual. Now I know using logic and facts in this debate is wasting my breath, but every now and then I just have to get this frustration off my chest. I will now get off my soapbox and let the usual suspects rant and rave with their usual lack of consideration of reality.
I will say it again, I am not a big fan of Trump.
If you are an American voter, you have to ask yourself, am I better off under Biden or is Trump a better choice. It's that simple.
I don't recall Trump saying that he was going to give Ukraine to Putin.
That's sheer conjecture. Nothing to back it up.
Is the economy better under Biden?
Don't think so.
Is law an order better under Biden?
Don't think so.
Are millions of illegal immigrants pouring across the border under Biden's watch?
Yes.
Is Trump clownish at times and does he say ridiculous things.
Yes.
Is Biden bordering on senility and does he lie easily?
Yes.
The Trump haters on this board love their memes and their over the top insults.
Trump's a racist!
Trump's a rapist!
Trump's a criminal!
Everyone's entitled to their opinion.
When he was President, I don't remember the world coming to an end.
Was there widespread death and despair?
Don't think so.
I do remember one thing.
ORANGE MAN BAD!!!!
God there is so much there to unpack. I dont know where to start.
That was NOT a strong border security bill. All it did was cap numbers at 5000 a day and speed up the process while allowing extra illegals to come in through other venues such as airports. This could be stopped in ONE day and all Biden has to do is reverse some of the policies that Trump had put in place but he reversed the first day he was in office. The whole point of even allowing this was basically a tidbit to hand out 60 billion dollars to Ukraine to fund their unwinnable war effort. If they sincerely wanted to end it why tie it into an omnibus style bill but do it on a stand alone basis.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/
Now surrounded by competent people....if you call Kamala Harris, KJP, the slimy Admiral who pops up at the occasional press conference, Janet Yellen, Merrick Garland, Mayorkas competent people we are certainly on a different wavelength.
The Ukraine war could have been settle peacefully in March 2022 but the US and NATO scuttled a peace deal that had been arranged according to those who negotiated the agreement.
However Im sure...despite the evidence that you are convinced that Russia would have used this to roll through Ukraine and then attempt to steamroll through Poland and take over the entirety of Europe as part of their plan to revive the Russian Empire. I should think that their military results in Ukraine fighting what is now an ill equipped force with no air support, and an army now with an average age approaching 50 and their lack of overall success should prove otherwise.
No one is trying harder to end democracy than the Democrats using banana republic lawfare, twisting into knots trying to find ways to keep Trump out of the race. The one nice thing I can say about this is while Putin gets rid of his opponents by blowing up their plane or poisoning them, the Democrats more politely just try to bankrupt them or put them in jail.
Every case against Trump has been manipulated in some form or other eg...the EJean Carrol "rape" case where at the urging and with the aid of a Democrat lawyer New York state opens up a one year window for prosecution of cases in which the statute of limitations had expired specifically so they could go after Trump on a civil basis. The jury finds him guilty of sexual abuse despite absolutely no proof but not rape. Trump says he is not guilty of rape and they use that as the basis for the large defamation fine which accounts for the bulk of the judgement. Why should he be fined for agreeing with the jury's verdict. The Leticia James case is a joke as well as Engeron and James do not appear to know the difference between paying tax on government assessed value vs the value of a property in the market when applying for a loan or selling it. Its sort of strange how the Democrats solution to the threat to democracy is to threaten democracy.
As for an actual campaign platform what has Biden produced? Its entirely based on Trump being an existential threat and abortion. Thats it. He has nothing else to laud about his time in office. His foreign policy is a disaster, inflation still runs rampant much of it due to government spending policy, trying to force people into electric vehicles is not working, crime runs rampant in US cities as his main political donor, George Soros funds soft on crime prosecutors who institute policies such as no cash bail in which repeat offenders of violent crimes can be released the same day.
As for my opinion of Trump.....I dislike the person.....but agree with some of the policies that he would endorse if elected. I fully believe that he will close the border, that he may try and end the Ukraine war and not involve us in new ones, that he will pull out of the climate accord and stop trying to force people into electric cars, that he will not allow Mexico to bring cheap Chinese electric cars across the border for sale and kill the US auto industry and may offer some solutions to cut down on crime something Democrats seem to encourage rather than fight. I dont really give a shit if he is hawking bibles or whatever because the Democrat plan has been to put him in such a horrible financial situation by their lawfare tactics and obscene judgments trying to bankrupt him and it is beyond reprehensible.
And again....tell me the path by which Trump can actually end democracy when all of the levers of government are basically under the thumb of the Democrats from the intelligence agencies to the legal system to the mainstream media. Its far more likely to be the Democrats doing it if Trump actually wins in November. And of course if that happens you will be cheering it on.
Your condescending attitude and belief that you and you only are the one using logic and facts and that everyone who disagrees with you politically is stupid is beyond contempt.
The Washington Post and New York Times are propaganda voices for the Democratic Party. They peddle fake news.
For someone who's "not a big fan of Trump", you sure spend a lot of time on an escort review board jumping all over anyone who dares to post a Trump meme or express a negative opinion about him. Odd.
Because maybe he's just pointing out why many are so blind, brainwashed and blank. Out of control inflation and looting all around, border Kaos, wars happening ..all this and more didn't happen under the previous administration. If one can't see that then.....Humanity is at end.
I'm not jumping all over anyone.
Just pointing out the ridiculousness of some of the TDS crowd.
Shouting insults and posting memes is not contributing to the debate.
Post all the memes you want, it just makes a person look foolish.
Occasionally I will come across a Trump hater and they will tell me he's a really bad guy.
I ask them, "give me a couple of examples of really terrible things that he did".
Long silence..."he's a really bad guy!!!!"
See my point?
There are rational, intelligent people that don't like Trump or disagree with his politics.
Haven't met one yet on this board.
BTW, this thread is titled "USA political thread 2024".
Pretty ignorant reply but that usually follows with the uneducated. Typical behind the keyboard internet troll.
Its comments like yours that influence the mods to ban.
Its comments like yours that influence the mods to ban.
Okay, Chicken Little.
Maybe leave the discussion to the adults in the room.Okay, Chicken Little.
Isn't there an elementary school playground nearby where you can spread your wisdom?
Terrible things re: Trump from my earlier post
Trudeau is disliked by a lot of people, but Trump is scum
His worse 'accomplishments'
Trump University
Central Park Central Park Five: Crime, Coverage & Settlement | HISTORY
Caused an insurrection
And some 'minor indiscretions'
Cheated numerous contractors who did work for him (thru lawsuits)
Made fun of disabled people
Called white supremacists 'very fine people'
Cheated on three wives (the wife was pregnant and cheated with Stormy Daniels)
Go ahead defend this actions.
Regarding the poster who the comment about "Cheated on three wives (the wife was pregnant and cheated with Stormy Daniels) " and this being a pooning board.
Yes, this is a pooning board, but most people would agree being a three time cheater and (cheating with Stormy Daniels while Melania was pregnant) is a bridge too far.
Ok, you win.
Trump is worse than Hitler.
He's going to be re-elected in November.
You're going to have to deal with it.
Good luck.
"BBC news"
Lol!
Good one!
Context?
Geopolitics are very complex.
I'm not as knowledgeable as the many "experts" on Perb.
I could be wrong about Trump.
Remember all the wars he started when he was President?
Neither do I.
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