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se7landrover97

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I believe the reason for this trial is Trump reports the property at a lower value for tax reasons. The problem is he reports these same properties at a much higher value for insurance or when a higher value is required for sales purposes.
Yes, and may I add for bank loan purposes to get lower interest rate.
 
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I believe the reason for this trial is Trump reports the property at a lower value for tax reasons. The problem is he reports these same properties at a much higher value for insurance or when a higher value is required for sales purposes.
I believe that these practices are common among those who deal in high end commercial real estate.

There are assessed values and then there are the amounts that people end up paying. Sometimes they pay more than the assessed value, sometimes they pay less.

The assessed value at any given time is a number on a page.

As far as the IRS or insurance companies, they will get what they are legally entitled to get. Always

Everything else is a make work project for lawyers and bureaucrats.

I've said earlier that I'm not a huge Trump fan.

Having said that, watching people lose their shit over him is a constant source of amusement.
 
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Yes, you are correct. The senate and the president can block legislation passed by the house of representative. But can you tell everybody here what meaningful immigrations or border legislations that the house republican passed?? The last time I checked there was none. Just like guns legislation, they just refuse to do it. And to say that I clearly don't understand how the American gov't works is a very sweeping statement, unfortunately that deserve no merit.
lol, what meaningful legislation did the Democrats pass? on gun control? on the border?

on anything, except continuing to drive the debt up for no real benefit for most

they did nothing, just like the republicans, when they've had full control of both houses and the white house

that's how the place works, it's been like that for 40 plus years, they, just like our idiots here, feds/provincial, are all about themselves, getting/staying in power, by doing the very least possible

look at any issue in Canada, the US, they've been rehashing them since the 80's, some since the 70's

with no progress, despite all the delusions of the left, which you appear to think are better than the current nut jobs on the right

both sides are being led by the extreme zealots on both ends of the spectrum

correct but no merit, lol

I will have to go without a cookie and it being christmas time and all :giggle:
 
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lol, what meaningful legislation did the Democrats pass? on gun control? on the border?

on anything, except continuing to drive the debt up for no real benefit for most

they did nothing, just like the republicans, when they've had full control of both houses and the white house
Here are the highlights:

1. American Rescue Plan in response to COVID-19
rolling-out a FREE vaccine to any who wish to protect themselves (along w/boosters and free testing)
2. Bi-partisan Infrastructure Bill
roads/bridges/rail/airports/high-speed internet/etc
3. CHIPs Act
building semi-conductors in US
4. Inflation Reduction Act
reduction in the cost of perscription drugs, climate change investment, reversing the 'gutting' of gov't agencies

BTW, The DOW set a new (highest) record this week
 

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Like investors I deal and listen too . Governments like to spend, not invest. And with respect.. I'm quite sure that'll be passed on elsewhere in the tax world somewhere in the USA. Someone has to pay for that? Nothing is for free in the governments eyes -- or plan of action. I certainly didn't have that option presented to me when I went to post high school.



Biden has erased tens of thousands of student loans. These loans were totally crooked and put students in debt for life.
 
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Biden has erased tens of thousands of student loans. These loans were totally crooked and put students in debt for life.

There will be more freebies once we get closer to Nov 2024.
The Dems have played out the White Supremacy card. Remember that one. It was the greatest threat to the USA in 2020.
 

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Coming from a red tory point of view, I see the US as 3 camps. A third are left leaning, a third right and a third (maybe more) don't care. In a two party system, then its either right or left, no middle.
By the way, this is the same demographic that Hitler used where a third were devout followers (cult to the extreme). A third were considered the 'enemy' and so were victimized in the name of what they were doing to the cult. The other third just stood around and did nothing.
What is that Bernard Shaw wrote? "All it takes for evil to prevail, is for men of good faith to do nothing".
Precarious times in the You Es of Eh and as we have seen, this spills into the rest of the world.
 

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lol, what meaningful legislation did the Democrats pass? on gun control? on the border?

on anything, except continuing to drive the debt up for no real benefit for most

they did nothing, just like the republicans, when they've had full control of both houses and the white house

that's how the place works, it's been like that for 40 plus years, they, just like our idiots here, feds/provincial, are all about themselves, getting/staying in power, by doing the very least possible

look at any issue in Canada, the US, they've been rehashing them since the 80's, some since the 70's

with no progress, despite all the delusions of the left, which you appear to think are better than the current nut jobs on the right

both sides are being led by the extreme zealots on both ends of the spectrum

correct but no merit, lol

I will have to go without a cookie and it being christmas time and all :giggle:
I was asking you what the reps have done besides blocking critical policies that would help majority of Americans. You decided to ask me back. Well to answer your question, just read golferjohn's reply below your comment. Safe me the trouble of doing some research.🤣 These are just some of them. Trump said the stock market, like you have not seen before, 🙄 would crush if POTUS Biden is elected president. That didn't t happen. Not even close! Not only was that statement very irresponsible, it was just a political lie concocted somewhere from his empty brain. The sad part of all these is Reps, who should know better, just stood there and let him be. They probably crossed their fingers and hope that would happen even if that would cause sufferings to many Americans. They just don't care. The sooner the Americans realize this the better it is to their country. Someone mention here, that US will never elect another republican as president. Well, its wishful thinking but Ill crossed my fingers to that.🤞

Btw, Just heard the news that a binder of top secret documents concerning Russia's interference of the '16 election went missing on the last months of Trump presidency. Where could they be?
 
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Biden has erased tens of thousands of student loans. These loans were totally crooked and put students in debt for life.
Please tell me that you're kidding.

When these people got their student loans, did someone put a gun to their head?

You do know that when you get a loan, you agree to the terms and conditions?

With all due respect, this is one of the most ridiculous things that I have ever heard.
 

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Please tell me that you're kidding.

When these people got their student loans, did someone put a gun to their head?

You do know that when you get a loan, you agree to the terms and conditions?

With all due respect, this is one of the most ridiculous things that I have ever heard.
That's is correct and I agree.
 

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Interesting how writing off student debt is bad but nobody complains about writing off executive jets.
This is whataboutism. It's not helpful.

Lots of people complain about writing off corporate jets. Including myself.

I don't want my tax dollars going to corporate welfare programs.

I don't want my tax dollars going to pay for someone else's university degree.

I could go on but I think you get the idea.
 

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Interesting how writing off student debt is bad but nobody complains about writing off executive jets.
I wouldn't say I like writing off student debt. Going to school/university/college is an investment in that student's future; my children invested in their education and became doctors and engineers. That was their asset or investment in their future. Much the same as someone else's investment in their future would be from buying some other asset. I did go to university and obtained a degree. That was an investment in my future. I also took out loans and mortgages to buy property and other assets, which became the most significant investment and return for my future.

Should someone pay back my loans and mortgages for me? No.

Would be okay with writing off interest on student loans. Yes

It resembles the adage, 'If it is free, it is worth nothing.'
 

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100% agree here. I, too, have this for years on wishing we could write off our mortgage interest here in Canada. That would be a bonus. I believe they do in the U.S.A?



Should someone pay back my loans and mortgages for me? No.

Would be okay with writing off interest on student loans. Yes

It resembles the adage, 'If it is free, it is worth nothing.'
 

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Please tell me that you're kidding.

When these people got their student loans, did someone put a gun to their head?

You do know that when you get a loan, you agree to the terms and conditions?

With all due respect, this is one of the most ridiculous things that I have ever heard.
When colleges defraud students, should the government go after school executives?

" the U.S. Senate declared the federal student loan program "plagued by fraud and abuse." Its report heaped scorn on for-profit trade schools for serving 22% of federal student loan borrowers but accounting for 44% of defaults "
 
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100% agree here. I, too, have this for years on wishing we could write off our mortgage interest here in Canada.
I think the current bubble/boom is largely due to low interest rates.
Allowing interest write offs would make prices go up. As more buyers become eligible the demand goes up.
 
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When colleges defraud students, should the government go after school executives?

" the U.S. Senate declared the federal student loan program "plagued by fraud and abuse." Its report heaped scorn on for-profit trade schools for serving 22% of federal student loan borrowers but accounting for 44% of defaults "
Yes, if fraud is being committed, it should be dealt with by the appropriate legal authorities. Not the government.

Caveat emptor, let the buyer beware.
Read the contract, do your research before you sign on the dotted line.

If you are sold a lemon by a car dealership or you get scammed in some sort of bogus real estate transaction, I would feel bad for you but it wouldn't be MY problem.

Most people understand that the student loan "crises" is the result of some people borrowing too much money to get degrees that turn out to be useless.

Again, not MY problem.

I went to university and trade school. No loans. Worked and paid for everything myself.

A lot of this is on the government. They created the student loan system.

Now people want the government to fix it.

"I'm from the government and I'm here to help".

Lol...
 

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The interest write offs would be from personal home owners which would be filed under their own personal income tax forms at year end. Not sure how that could drive prices up?

Yes, the low interest environment definitely is the contribution to today's housing bubble. No doubt about that. But now, what's interesting is that rates have rocketed higher and yet housing prices haven't really fallen as much as many future home owners had hoped. It's declined a bit but not that much. At least not here in Metro Van. I hope our housing bubble don't experience what Japan had in the 80's.


I think the current bubble/boom is largely due to low interest rates.
Allowing interest write offs would make prices go up. As more buyers become eligible the demand goes up.
 
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