USA Political Discussion Thread 2025

[thevalleydude]

Yeah... there are a few vids of the maga sturmabteilung chasing people (for no apparent reason other than skin colour) trying to get a pic of their face.
There's one of them walking around cars at a stoplight taking shots of the occupants.
So much for the Constitution.

I haven't seen that but there are dumbasses on both sides of the political spectrum. Your side just happens to have more of them. . Perhaps it was not a good idea for the first thing Biden to do when he was elected President to open the border wide open and actually invite every ne'er do well from around the world free access to the US to take advantage of their support systems and expand their criminal cartels into new territory while putting huge pressures on their medical and education systems while driving up the cost of housing and taking away jobs , particular for and of those in the underclass of American society. It was not a promise made on the campaign trail pre election..and had it been the end result may have been a lot different.

What you are seeing happening now is totally the fault of Democrats. They created this mess deliberately for whatever reason and now are trying to prevent it from being cleaned up with the help of their antifa political allies who are being financed by someone on the Democrat donor list.

Flip the switch for a minute.....if this was say...MAGA rioting in the streets and trying to prevent law enforcement from doing their jobs removing illegals and Democrats were in power..y'all would be lustily cheering for the National guard to come in, rough up, and send all the MAGA protesters to Guantanamo Bay to get waterboarded.

And I would be too. That is the difference between us. Well maybe not waterboarded.

 

[MRGREEN]

There is an abundance of everything.....simple answer is be less greedy and share it Quit scapegoating those less fortunate and not white....not a great look for any one.

 

[masterblaster]

I haven't seen that but there are dumbasses on both sides of the political spectrum. Your side just happens to have more of them. . Perhaps it was not a good idea for the first thing Biden to do when he was elected President to open the border wide open and actually invite every ne'er do well from around the world free access to the US to take advantage of their support systems and expand their criminal cartels into new territory while putting huge pressures on their medical and education systems while driving up the cost of housing and taking away jobs , particular for and of those in the underclass of American society. It was not a promise made on the campaign trail pre election..and had it been the end result may have been a lot different.

What you are seeing happening now is totally the fault of Democrats. They created this mess deliberately for whatever reason and now are trying to prevent it from being cleaned up with the help of their antifa political allies who are being financed by someone on the Democrat donor list.

Flip the switch for a minute.....if this was say...MAGA rioting in the streets and trying to prevent law enforcement from doing their jobs removing illegals and Democrats were in power..y'all would be lustily cheering for the National guard to come in, rough up, and send all the MAGA protesters to Guantanamo Bay to get waterboarded.

And I would be too. That is the difference between us. Well maybe not waterboarded.

During President Joe Biden’s term, Border Patrol arrested an unprecedented number of immigrants who crossed illegally into the United States. Many believe Biden caused this increase in migration by reducing border enforcement. However, data obtained by the Cato Institute through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) challenges this narrative. In fact, the border crisis began before Biden took office and ended before he left.

From his administration’s first day in January 2021, Biden actually increasedborder enforcement—arrests, detentions, and removals of border crossers all increased. The prevailing narrative that blames Biden overlooks the real causes of the crisis: America’s robust labor market and bad immigration policies that incentivized illegal entries. However, Trump, not Biden, mostly started those policies. Biden eventually phased out some of them; he increased legalmigration, and as the labor market cooled, the problem dissipated

 

[80watts]

I haven't seen that but there are dumbasses on both sides of the political spectrum. Your side just happens to have more of them. . Perhaps it was not a good idea for the first thing Biden to do when he was elected President to open the border wide open and actually invite every ne'er do well from around the world free access to the US to take advantage of their support systems and expand their criminal cartels into new territory while putting huge pressures on their medical and education systems while driving up the cost of housing and taking away jobs , particular for and of those in the underclass of American society. It was not a promise made on the campaign trail pre election..and had it been the end result may have been a lot different.

What you are seeing happening now is totally the fault of Democrats. They created this mess deliberately for whatever reason and now are trying to prevent it from being cleaned up with the help of their antifa political allies who are being financed by someone on the Democrat donor list.

Flip the switch for a minute.....if this was say...MAGA rioting in the streets and trying to prevent law enforcement from doing their jobs removing illegals and Democrats were in power..y'all would be lustily cheering for the National guard to come in, rough up, and send all the MAGA protesters to Guantanamo Bay to get waterboarded.

And I would be too. That is the difference between us. Well maybe not waterboarded.

I would think that the Vietnam and College protests in the late 60s should of given politicians the idea that calling out the riot squad was usually not beneficial to the politicians career. It just created ill-will between both sides, but the voters had the last laugh....

 

[80watts]

During President Joe Biden’s term, Border Patrol arrested an unprecedented number of immigrants who crossed illegally into the United States. Many believe Biden caused this increase in migration by reducing border enforcement. However, data obtained by the Cato Institute through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) challenges this narrative. In fact, the border crisis began before Biden took office and ended before he left.

From his administration’s first day in January 2021, Biden actually increasedborder enforcement—arrests, detentions, and removals of border crossers all increased. The prevailing narrative that blames Biden overlooks the real causes of the crisis: America’s robust labor market and bad immigration policies that incentivized illegal entries. However, Trump, not Biden, mostly started those policies. Biden eventually phased out some of them; he increased legalmigration, and as the labor market cooled, the problem dissipated

Can you provide some references to this? about the American Labour Market.

I'm kinda confused with American Labour Market, I believe its been declining since the 1980s when companies started to expand their operation and manufacturing overseas to the far east countries of China, Vietnam, Malayasia, and Indonesia (countries around the south china sea). So I can't see how robust the American labour market is; when Trump signed the new free trade with Canada and Mexico, jobs and companies started to relocate to Mexico.

I am also suspicious as some major corporations who manufacture overseas, claim growth (in the USA), when it is actually overseas.

The other side is the robotization of factories and with the advance of AI, more factories are being converted to machines replacing human workers.

 

[angry anderson]

US soya beans export to china down to zero while argentina is selling to china
The recent shift in China's soybean purchasing patterns has been a significant factor in the US-China trade war. China has ceased all purchases of US soybeans since May, as part of its trade war with Washington. This decision has led to a dramatic drop in US soybean exports to China, with no purchases reported for two consecutive months. In contrast, Argentina has emerged as a key player in the soybean market for China, with a surge in exports following the suspension of export taxes on soybeans. This move has allowed Argentina to capture a significant share of China's near-term demand for soybeans, bypassing US suppliers. The situation has created a geopolitical triangle where Argentina has capitalized on the US-China trade tensions, while US farmers are facing a loss of sales to China


Argentina First? Why Trump Is Betting $20 Billion on Javier Milei.

 

[westwoody]

incentivized illegal entries

Those awful brown people wouldn’t be coming if nobody was hiring them.
Why aren’t their employers being rounded up?

 

[GeeBeeP]

I would think that the Vietnam and College protests in the late 60s should of given politicians the idea that calling out the riot squad was usually not beneficial to the politicians career. It just created ill-will between both sides, but the voters had the last laugh....

They learned a lesson all right.

They learned that the riot squad isn’t sufficient to do the top quality suppression of fundamental rights that gets them hard. Play the long game and create your own private unsupervised domestic army. Give them powers to arrest anyone who they don’t like or speaks up, and the fire power to back it up. Oh, and also make sure Congress and the Supreme court are either too corrupt or chicken shit to stand in their way.

 

[jgg]

Yeah, they should behave more like hockey fans.

Good point, lol.

 

[westwoody]

All those maga farmers will get government bailouts whilst complaining about welfare bums.

 

[oldshark]

All those maga farmers will get government bailouts whilst complaining about welfare bums.

The farmers have been promised but the bailouts are delayed, especially because of the government shutdown. Ultimately I don't believe Trump cares about these people, he would prefer to destroy them so that his rich friends can buy the farms cheaply.

 

[westwoody]

Plausible theory. Vance is in a corp that buys distressed farmland cheap from desperate farmers. Converting agriculture back to lords and serfs.

 

[carvesg]

Yep destabilize the farming industry by cutting programs and trigger a Chinese response with increased tariffs which helps conveniently Acretrader and co
... brought to you by JD Vance for some more kleptocracy.

The level of corruption in the US since January of this year is outstanding, in the open and so well planned that everyone is getting used to it. The lack of investigation and outrage from the media is deafening but I understand that trump and his cronies have coordinated their attack on the democratic system so well to enrich themselves that it is hard to keep up . It's meant to overwhelm everyone all at once .

 

[GeeBeeP]

All those maga farmers will get government bailouts whilst complaining about welfare bums.

The US has had massive agricultural subsidies for years and the fiscal conservatives have conveniently ignored it, the MAGAs are just too ill-informed to know or care. For example that's why the issue of American dairy products being sold in Canada V.S our supply management system is such a problem. The US essentially pays the dairy industry to over produce, leading to excess supply and their desire to export it cheaply. American producers could dump their excess product into the Canadian market at prices the Canadian industry can’t match.

Our quota system aka “supply management” is how we allow small producers to stay in business while ensuring steady supply. The US trade negotiators and politicians rage against our system while conveniently ignoring their own subsidies.

 

[westwoody]

One would think this is a yes or no question?

 

[jarvaniv]

I hope everything goes well.
Canada and USA ♥

 

[thoracicgerm]

I haven't seen that but there are dumbasses on both sides of the political spectrum. Your side just happens to have more of them. . Perhaps it was not a good idea for the first thing Biden to do when he was elected President to open the border wide open and actually invite every ne'er do well from around the world free access to the US to take advantage of their support systems and expand their criminal cartels into new territory while putting huge pressures on their medical and education systems while driving up the cost of housing and taking away jobs , particular for and of those in the underclass of American society. It was not a promise made on the campaign trail pre election..and had it been the end result may have been a lot different.

What you are seeing happening now is totally the fault of Democrats. They created this mess deliberately for whatever reason and now are trying to prevent it from being cleaned up with the help of their antifa political allies who are being financed by someone on the Democrat donor list.

Flip the switch for a minute.....if this was say...MAGA rioting in the streets and trying to prevent law enforcement from doing their jobs removing illegals and Democrats were in power..y'all would be lustily cheering for the National guard to come in, rough up, and send all the MAGA protesters to Guantanamo Bay to get waterboarded.

And I would be too. That is the difference between us. Well maybe not waterboarded.

Tell me you're brainwashed without telling me you're brainwashed

 

[masterblaster]

It should come as no surprise to anyone except the trump cult members that orange turd didn’t win the Nobel Peace Prize