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I’m back!
That said, I apologize to those I previously offended. I mean it, I didn’t realize people can be so sensitive. That said, the fake Rolex guy (me) likes money and the money is on the Loonie going in the toilet. Even BIV articulated such!! Quote, ”it will be impossible for Canada to win a trade war with the US, but some Americans will feel a bit of pain. However, Canadians will experience unemployment and a recession, most born after 1975 have never experienced” Like a wrote, I like money, when…..not if…..when the CAD hits 51 to the USD, I have a six figure limit buy order already placed. I BELIEVE the CAD will eventually recover…..may take a few years, but after the population suffers enough and votes out socialism, it will bounce. I bought the Ruble at .002 and made a killing! Now the unknown….if DJT succeeds in having NATO countries pay 5% of their GDP for defense, the Loonie will drop way past 50 and I will be forced to hold my position longer. Allegedly Trump will no longer allow Canada to subsidize government handouts on the American taxpayer dime. Stellantis announced today that they saw the error of their ways and will bring manufacturing back to the US. Therefore I strongly suspect Ford will soon follow. Consequently, Canadians are in for a ton of economic pain!! My message, buy the Loonie when it drops…..buy low sell high! Why I write this on a hooker forum you may ask……I am just attempting to share the wealth with people that can’t think past their dicks!
 
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This is what happens when you put anti-science nutcases in charge... Everybody laughs at you.
Laugh until your stomach hurts, nobody cares! The world revolves around money……..money, money, money. Women sells their bodies for money, people kill for money, it doesn’t matter if anyone laughs. Those that don’t have money vilify those that do, those that have money, want more….it is how the world turns and nothing will change it. For a variety of reasons, I like money…..women, cars, homes, just to name a few. No money, no honey! Call Trump Hitler, or whatever, he will do two things.
1. Make Americans wealthy
2. Make countries support themselves….. which will turn into #1.

Pretty much of the entire world depends upon the United States for monetary support. I actually believe in order to keep nations under control, that was the original purpose. It beats war! Now Trump is capitalizing on it, which is a great business move. Yeah I get it, people in other countries are screaming, it’s not fair. Conversely, it is my opinion those same people should have screamed at their government to become independent. Trump will MAGA and he doesn’t seem to care about political norms, which IMO is awesome…..One example, after he took office, my monthly income SHOULD increase $4312 per month, that’s over 51k per year, just by policy changes!
 
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Laugh until your stomach hurts, nobody cares! The world revolves around money……..money, money, money. Women sells their bodies for money, people kill for money, it doesn’t matter if anyone laughs. Those that don’t have money vilify those that do, those that have money, want more….it is how the world turns and nothing will change it. For a variety of reasons, I like money…..women, cars, homes, just to name a few. No money, no honey! Call Trump Hitler, or whatever, he will do two things.
1. Make Americans wealthy
2. Make countries support themselves….. which will turn into #1.

Pretty much of the entire world depends upon the United States for monetary support. I actually believe in order to keep nations under control, that was the original purpose. It beats war! Now Trump is capitalizing on it, which is a great business move. Yeah I get it, people in other countries are screaming, it’s not fair. Conversely, it is my opinion those same people should have screamed at their government to become independent. Trump will MAGA and he doesn’t seem to care about political norms, which IMO is awesome…..One example, after he took office, my monthly income SHOULD increase $4312 per month, that’s over 51k per year, just by policy changes!
I can't tell if this is satire, or just blatant lying?

Trump left office with the worst economic record of any president since the great depression. Not even good, not even bad... The WORST. His tariffs cost the Americans billions of dollars in subsidies to American industries that got decimated by his failed tactics, and now he's just expanding them. He blew the deficit up like almost nobody else, then had to send out paychecks to everyday Americans, on top of paying off the industries he decimated, and then he made it all worse by cutting taxes. On top of failing to have much of any federal response to covid, which only exacerbated the damage done.
 

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I can't tell if this is satire, or just blatant lying?

Trump left office with the worst economic record of any president since the great depression. Not even good, not even bad... The WORST. His tariffs cost the Americans billions of dollars in subsidies to American industries that got decimated by his failed tactics, and now he's just expanding them. He blew the deficit up like almost nobody else, then had to send out paychecks to everyday Americans, on top of paying off the industries he decimated, and then he made it all worse by cutting taxes. On top of failing to have much of any federal response to covid, which only exacerbated the damage done.
You obviously only believe what you read. The millions of Americans that voted him back into office think differently. During his first term, Trump put more money in my pocket than Biden got for selling influence. which is saying a lot. Seriously, it is significant. The Trump tax cuts made a huge difference and not like the media portrayed, they were even across the board. As an example, the first $30k earned in 2024 is completely tax free. Under the previous system it was $6200. The figure doesn’t even compare to gasoline prices. In 2020, I paid $1.89 per gallon for premium, under Joe it hit $4.89.
 

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You obviously only believe what you read. The millions of Americans that voted him back into office think differently. During his first term, Trump put more money in my pocket than Biden got for selling influence. which is saying a lot. Seriously, it is significant. The Trump tax cuts made a huge difference and not like the media portrayed, they were even across the board. As an example, the first $30k earned in 2024 is completely tax free. Under the previous system it was $6200. The figure doesn’t even compare to gasoline prices. In 2020, I paid $1.89 per gallon for premium, under Joe it hit $4.89.
I believe the facts, and again, the facts show that Trump had the worst economic record of any president since the great depression. Choose just about any metric that you can think of, and he will reliably have some of the worst numbers ever recorded. Facts don't require any belief, as facts remain facts.

Speaking of facts, Joe Biden didn't make any money for selling influence at all, so I'm guessing you're saying that you owed the government money during that time period? This is why it's hard to take people like this seriously, when they ignore plain as day facts, and result to just repeating their favorite bits of dishonest Trump campaign mailer info that showed up in their email inbox.

Also, just saying that everyone in the media is wrong, and that some random, anonymous account on a message board knows better, isn't even worth taking seriously.
 

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Even then, they'd still to stupid to tell the difference 😆. Which applies to many lefties on here....the OLD AND SENILE. They probably run around with tulips in their ears clicking their heels 😆 The old and senile here ....quite evident who they are...will no doubt find useless links....just because. It makes them feel important on an escorts board 😆. But these oldies aren't masculine. Quite the opposite.

How to upset a democrat. Tell them there are only 2 genders.
 
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I believe the facts, and again, the facts show that Trump had the worst economic record of any president since the great depression. Choose just about any metric that you can think of, and he will reliably have some of the worst numbers ever recorded. Facts don't require any belief, as facts remain facts.

Speaking of facts, Joe Biden didn't make any money for selling influence at all, so I'm guessing you're saying that you owed the government money during that time period? This is why it's hard to take people like this seriously, when they ignore plain as day facts, and result to just repeating their favorite bits of dishonest Trump campaign mailer info that showed up in their email inbox.

Also, just saying that everyone in the media is wrong, and that some random, anonymous account on a message board knows better, isn't even worth taking seriously.
Keep in mind, forums are not news organizations, forums are TYPICALLY written by people in real time and not by a company with an agenda. I equate it to the underground during WW2, details from people on the front lines. Biden’s pardons speak volumes and I will not debate it. Fact, subsequent to the election, gasoline prices have plummeted. I filled up today and paid $2.85 per gallon for 91 octane. I don’t keep records, but just a guess, prior to November 5, I paid at least $3.35……for the same gasoline at the same station. Last year it was $4.75. My Raptor has a 36 gallon gas tank. 3.35 vs 2.85 is $18 per tank in real time information…….in two months. Prior to 2020, the same gas cost $1.89 per gallon…..according to GasBuddy. That is huge! I do not make money on this forum, Trump is elected and I have zero motive to lie. As an investor, my only motive is to educate others to make money and not live off of government subsidies. The CAD will dive, timing is impossible, but with the current political environment, it will dive to new lows. In a trade war, Canada does not stand a chance…..PERIOD! Consequently Canadians should position themselves to make money on the future recession. Have a great night!
 

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I’m back!
That said, I apologize to those I previously offended. I mean it, I didn’t realize people can be so sensitive. That said, the fake Rolex guy (me) likes money and the money is on the Loonie going in the toilet. Even BIV articulated such!! Quote, ”it will be impossible for Canada to win a trade war with the US, but some Americans will feel a bit of pain. However, Canadians will experience unemployment and a recession, most born after 1975 have never experienced” Like a wrote, I like money, when…..not if…..when the CAD hits 51 to the USD, I have a six figure limit buy order already placed. I BELIEVE the CAD will eventually recover…..may take a few years, but after the population suffers enough and votes out socialism, it will bounce. I bought the Ruble at .002 and made a killing! Now the unknown….if DJT succeeds in having NATO countries pay 5% of their GDP for defense, the Loonie will drop way past 50 and I will be forced to hold my position longer. Allegedly Trump will no longer allow Canada to subsidize government handouts on the American taxpayer dime. Stellantis announced today that they saw the error of their ways and will bring manufacturing back to the US. Therefore I strongly suspect Ford will soon follow. Consequently, Canadians are in for a ton of economic pain!! My message, buy the Loonie when it drops…..buy low sell high! Why I write this on a hooker forum you may ask……I am just attempting to share the wealth with people that can’t think past their dicks!
Trump wants 2% not 5%. If anything right now most NATO countries in Europe are seeking to increase their spending due to the war in Ukraine. If the US pulls out of NATO, they will have to do this. Poland a former communist block country hates Russia. Most former communist countries did not like the oppressive behavior that Russia had towards their country while Russia ran the Soviet Union with a tight fist. There is a reason Vodka in Russia is so fucken cheap....

"Allegedly Trump will no longer allow Canada to subsidize government handouts on the American taxpayer dime." So America is giving money to the Canadian government now? HOW the FUCK does that WORK?? Last time I looked Trump has no control of anything Canadian. You know 2 different countries.

"Stellantis announced today that they saw the error of their ways and will bring manufacturing back to the US." They might be building an auto plant to make cars, but they will still get their cheaper cost parts from Mexico or the Far East (China, Malyasia etc). American labour costs are too high, unless you are selling the car at a premium price. Remember the golden phrase of American ideaology---PROFIT, PROFIT and more PROFIT. Jesus this is why most American manufacturing went to the Far East in first place. Cheaper labour and cheaper part made in China made American companies Billions and Billions of US dollars, while cutting the American company's tax base in the USA (less tax to pay in America).

A US tariff on Canadian goods (mostly raw resources- oil, electricity, logs, and minerals), will also hit American manufacturing too. It can violate the CUSMA treaty of 2018/2020 CUSMA deal.

In the war of 1812, people from CANADA burn't down the White House.... after the USA invaded Canada.
 

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You know what the weirdest part is?

That any reasonably intelligent, sentient person could believe that another 4 years of chaos and bullshit is going to be good for anyone.
Probably because 75% of people according to almost every poll taken in the US over the last year believed that the United States needed a change of direction because they had seen their lives turn for the worse under the Biden regime and they came to the realization that they were being led by an unelected faceless cartel with a demented old moron as their puppet leader while being constantly gaslighted by the mainstream media that he was sharp as a tack? OK that is one mouthful of a sentence. Anyways......what reasonably intelligent sentient person would vote for 4 more years of the same thing?

As Justin Trudeau's and probably Steven Guilbeault's biggest fangirl on this board I am not certain whether you are best eligible to be the determinant of who is a reasonably intelligent sentient person. Polls show that Canadians feel exactly the same way about Justin Trudeau and Jagmeet by association as Americans did about Biden. You know what that means is coming up in a few months. The meltdowns on the Canadian Political Thread coming up should be monumental.

Stop with this unearned snobbish, elitish belief that most of you have that you are actually smarter than Americans who have had to actually live under the Biden regime. You are not. You all have voted Trudeau in for three consecutive elections directly or indirectly, while he has been dismantling the country, dividing us by playing identity politics and stuffing his and his party members pockets with our cash. Its almost impossible to count the number of scandals.
 

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Keep in mind, forums are not news organizations, forums are TYPICALLY written by people in real time and not by a company with an agenda. I equate it to the underground during WW2, details from people on the front lines. Biden’s pardons speak volumes and I will not debate it. Fact, subsequent to the election, gasoline prices have plummeted. I filled up today and paid $2.85 per gallon for 91 octane. I don’t keep records, but just a guess, prior to November 5, I paid at least $3.35……for the same gasoline at the same station. Last year it was $4.75. My Raptor has a 36 gallon gas tank. 3.35 vs 2.85 is $18 per tank in real time information…….in two months. Prior to 2020, the same gas cost $1.89 per gallon…..according to GasBuddy. That is huge! I do not make money on this forum, Trump is elected and I have zero motive to lie. As an investor, my only motive is to educate others to make money and not live off of government subsidies. The CAD will dive, timing is impossible, but with the current political environment, it will dive to new lows. In a trade war, Canada does not stand a chance…..PERIOD! Consequently Canadians should position themselves to make money on the future recession. Have a great night!
Your from the US if you are talking gallons.
If Canadian oil gets tariffs, the price of gas in the US will go up. Should Canada cut off oil to the refinery's on the gulf coast, you will see an increase in the price of gas (30% of American needs come through that pipeline), because there will be a shortage of gasoline in the US. It takes less time to pipe oil to Texas, then to ship oil from Venezuela.

Please be a little more forthcoming with what government subsidies Canadians do get. Here in Canada we try to look out for the misfortunate, not put them under a bus like Americans do.

If a trade war does happen, the US will have a hard time too, because our economies are closely connected, and part of the American economy will be hurt too. This will affect poorer Americans than richer Americans. Cost of gas goes up, cost of transportation goes up, good prices go up. The rich can afford this more than the working poor.

So if a trade war does happen, no more really cheap oil for Americans, no more electricity from Canada, no more Aluminum for airplanes, minerals for high tech devices etc.

Yeah Canada would probably be hurt, but we can turn around and do other things with our economy. This might be the best thing for Canadian manufacturing sector. 3d printing etc. Steel production, iron mining etc. We could pave more roads with the oil were not sending to TEXAS... etc.

After all when push gets to shove, just ignore patents and monopolies. After all in WW2 America got technology from Britain, and stole it from the Germans at the aftermath of WW2. With it they wouldn't of be able to go to the moon in 1969 without the support of German scientists. I wonder if von Braun ever got royalties for every American missile since the end of WW2?? The English invented the jet engine, how come the Americans don't pay for the patent on jet engines....

Also the Americans will have the rest of the world to deal with. Europe will be affected too. Without Canadian resources, Americans have to look elsewhere, and have to pay a much higher price. They will not be able to bully other countries into deals. Why? Well for one thing they will need that resource (game of give and take etc). China could bump the price up by actively bidding on these resources America needs.

Remember this, Trump wants to start it with tariffs. In the end it will just go bad for the average American, because the rich will be able to afford price increases or just move away.

The bottom line America relies on freedom of movement in order to do trade with other countries. A trade war with Canada, Mexico and/or China could put a big damper on all things American. America could loose favor/face with the world in general. Face it, Americans are hated all over the world. Is it for their arrogant attitude towards other cultures, or their insistence of abiding by patents laws, which monopolizes their power over other countries through economic dominance of patents. Plse note that Americans are only bombing countries that are Muslim.... who don't have strong patent laws.

This is a sure way of saying the America is in decline and of course someone has to take over, which would be China.
 
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Your from the US if you are talking gallons.
If Canadian oil gets tariffs, the price of gas in the US will go up. Should Canada cut off oil to the refinery's on the gulf coast, you will see an increase in the price of gas (30% of American needs come through that pipeline), because there will be a shortage of gasoline in the US. It takes less time to pipe oil to Texas, then to ship oil from Venezuela.

Please be a little more forthcoming with what government subsidies Canadians do get. Here in Canada we try to look out for the misfortunate, not put them under a bus like Americans do.

If a trade war does happen, the US will have a hard time too, because our economies are closely connected, and part of the American economy will be hurt too. This will affect poorer Americans than richer Americans. Cost of gas goes up, cost of transportation goes up, good prices go up. The rich can afford this more than the working poor.

So if a trade war does happen, no more really cheap oil for Americans, no more electricity from Canada, no more Aluminum for airplanes, minerals for high tech devices etc.

Yeah Canada would probably be hurt, but we can turn around and do other things with our economy. This might be the best thing for Canadian manufacturing sector. 3d printing etc. Steel production, iron mining etc. We could pave more roads with the oil were not sending to TEXAS... etc.

After all when push gets to shove, just ignore patents and monopolies. After all in WW2 America got technology from Britain, and stole it from the Germans at the aftermath of WW2. With it they wouldn't of be able to go to the moon in 1969 without the support of German scientists. I wonder if von Braun ever got royalties for every American missile since the end of WW2?? The English invented the jet engine, how come the Americans don't pay for the patent on jet engines....

Also the Americans will have the rest of the world to deal with. Europe will be affected too. Without Canadian resources, Americans have to look elsewhere, and have to pay a much higher price. They will not be able to bully other countries into deals. Why? Well for one thing they will need that resource (game of give and take etc). China could bump the price up by actively bidding on these resources America needs.

Remember this, Trump wants to start it with tariffs. In the end it will just go bad for the average American, because the rich will be able to afford price increases or just move away.

The bottom line America relies on freedom of movement in order to do trade with other countries. A trade war with Canada, Mexico and/or China could put a big damper on all things American. America could loose favor/face with the world in general. Face it, Americans are hated all over the world. Is it for their arrogant attitude towards other cultures, or their insistence of abiding by patents laws, which monopolizes their power over other countries through economic dominance of patents. Plse note that Americans are only bombing countries that are Muslim.... who don't have strong patent laws.

This is a sure way of saying the America is in decline and of course someone has to take over, which would be China.
Lets be real here...
Canada can not just cut off oil to refineries in the US.
Who would refine oil for OUR needs??

This is not a right wing point, it is reality..
You can not go into battle only believing you have some advantage, where in fact there is no advantage.
 

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Trump now wants 5% toward NATO..https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/23/can-trump-get-nato-allies-to-spend-more-on-defense.html
Actually that is old news. The subsidies I mention come from trade imbalance and the fact Canada totally relies on the US for defense, Canada is one of only six countries that fail in its obligation to support NATO. Yes Canada supports their ”less fortunate“ better than the US, so get ready for much higher taxes. America has the largest oil reserves in the world….AMAR is just one. In the short term, we may need oil from Canada, but soon we will be selling it. My only point is to get people to think ahead and invest strategically. The CAD to USD speaks volumes about economic strength. Canada is about to feel some great economic pain!
 
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Canada may feel some economic pain as a result of Americans putting an elderly lunatic in the White House.

But not nearly as much economic pain as his supporters will feel when Trump chops their Medicaid, Obamacare and $35 insulin to pay for another round of tax cuts for the billionaires who bought him the presidency.

Americans are suckers. And I won't feel the least bit sorry for them.

Don't worry about Canada. We'll be OK.
 
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