USA Political Discussion Thread 2025

[sexpanther69]

sexpanther69, this guy says it best. Your argument is lost before you started:
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/16BYKWPkXA/

Sure, listen to temu Liver King and keep smokin that krak (personally think u shud put it down)

Again, u right wingers are up in arms about a racist biggot who wasn't even an actual official but a loudmouth for dividing America and spreading trumps hate... yet u can't courage the strength to say the same abiut the right wingers who attacked actual government officials

 

[ivn7z]

I suppose every one here should look into their past and see if they've ever offended anyone. I suppose by that logic every person should meet Charlie's fate

i am sure i have offended people in the past. but i did not make a career and become a millionaire out of intentionally doing it

 

[Newuser505]

sexpanther69, this guy says it best. Your argument was lost the moment you started:
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/16BYKWPkXA/

Lmao. Of course its a meat head you get your opinions from.

Conservative brain rot. Ffs. We need to up our education system.

 

[blackcad]

Lmao. Of course its a meat head you get your opinions from.

Good job Newuser505. Insult someone. Call them a meathead, implying that their beliefs aren't valid. The point he makes is so simple, so clear, that even a 5 year old child with common sense would understand. There is no justification for what happened to Charlie Kirk. You should not be slaughtered simply for your political beliefs. It's simple, but too complex for you apparently. And in your one sentence response, I think you mean 'it's'. I learned that when I was 5.
Nice edit adding the second sentence to fling a personal insult when you lose the obvious.

 

[Newuser505]

The point he makes is so simple, so clear, that even a 5 year old child with common sense would understand.

Yes. I suspect thats why its so easy for you guys to digest without any critical thinking of your own.

Nice edit to fling your own.

 

[Forum mod]

This sums it up in a very measured and not crazy way.

Youtube video that sums up Charlie Kirk quite well

If you didn't express outrage at school shootings, or joked about Pelosi's husband being attacked, or when democrat congressman were killed, you really shouldn't be screaming outrage right now, it really shows your true colors. Should he have been gunned down? No of course not. It's a sad thing and another step on the path to a really dark place in the USA. But from Trump on down, the manufactured outrage is really hollow and transparent. Human life isn't equal in the USA and the right, and Charlie Kirk, created that reality.

I am not on the left, BTW, I am actually quite fiscally conservative and was a Reagan fan back in the day.

We usually avoid this thread and lightly moderate it, but if people keep name calling and resorting to insults to make their points, that can change.

 

[SmikeSmith]

Cite any examples.

Charlie Kirk called on “patriot heroes” to post bail for the guy that attacked Nancy Pelosi’s husband, which seems pretty fucked up honestly. “… if some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out … “

On January 6th, Right Wing protestors erected gallows at the capitol building.

Vance Boelter shot and killed two Democrat lawmakers in Minnesota and executed their golden labrador. He was a preacher who had spoken out against homosexuality and transgender people.

There’s lots more.

 

[SmikeSmith]

Regardless, so much of all of this conflict is all people trying to argue in good faith being met with endless trolling. Over and over again.

 

[Boogeryyc]

Good on you Cock Throppled! Going against this hypnotized echo chamber of people who've lost all sense of humanity, self-righteous to the point that they think the slaughter of a guy simply debating and exercising free speech is warranted. Charlie Kirk was a human, with a wife and two little daughters. He had unbelievable courage to stand up to the woke mob, and he did it with such respect and dignity. He was a traditional conservative, not radical in any way, believing in traditional values but never imposing them on others. The vast majority of those in this echo chamber thread have lost all sense of a conscience. There is no excuse for his murder! Most of those here will, like sheep, echo their group-think in this anonymous forum and say, 'Yeah but I heard that he said blah, blah, blah before' and quote out-of context crap, saying 'he has it coming'. "Let's find a clip of something offensive to help justify his slaughter!" I suppose every one here should look into their past and see if they've ever offended anyone. I suppose by that logic every person should meet Charlie's fate. Anyone here with that attitude (which is most) needs to deeply look in the mirror, look at your reflection. Now reflect on this, there is no justification for Charlie Kirk's murder. The reflection you see, is a horrid dark one, for anyone to be trying to justify it in any way. We have freedom of speech. You can disagree vociferously, you can label their speech as hate if you believe it is, but you can't kill someone for exercising their inalienable right.

What alternative universe are you living in?

 

[masterpoonhunter]

Every day I read or see or hear of something else in the US that is in that "you can't make this shit up" category. From the convicted rapist felon doing what he is told by the Nazi King maker Stephen Miller, to the citizens all with guns, more guns that is imaginable frankly, taking things into their own hands. And I ask, is this really the US you'all down south wanted? You sure got it ...

Came across an Aldous Huxely quote from the 1920's that seemed relevant.

 

[blackcad]

What alternative universe are you living in?

The one where it's wrong to slaughter someone because you disagree with them.

 

[masterblaster]

Kash Patel says will see him in Valhalla

 

[Crookedmember]

 

[Harmony-bc]

The one where it's wrong to slaughter someone because you disagree with them.

Not one person in this thread has said it’s ok to murder anybody. Murder is wrong.

2 things can be true at the same time. 1. Murder is wrong. 2. Charlie Kirk advocated for some really hurtful things and I am glad he’s not able to spread his hate anymore.

I can also feel really sad that his wife and child and all those college students had to witness that. How traumatizing. My heart, love, and prayers go out to all of them.

Social media gives these guys a huge platform that appeals to young disillusioned men.

The world is a crazy, scary place right now

 

[GentlemanJack69]

Good on you Cock Throppled! Going against this hypnotized echo chamber of people who've lost all sense of humanity, self-righteous to the point that they think the slaughter of a guy simply debating and exercising free speech is warranted. Charlie Kirk was a human, with a wife and two little daughters. He had unbelievable courage to stand up to the woke mob, and he did it with such respect and dignity. He was a traditional conservative, not radical in any way, believing in traditional values but never imposing them on others. The vast majority of those in this echo chamber thread have lost all sense of a conscience. There is no excuse for his murder! Most of those here will, like sheep, echo their group-think in this anonymous forum and say, 'Yeah but I heard that he said blah, blah, blah before' and quote out-of context crap, saying 'he has it coming'. "Let's find a clip of something offensive to help justify his slaughter!" I suppose every one here should look into their past and see if they've ever offended anyone. I suppose by that logic every person should meet Charlie's fate. Anyone here with that attitude (which is most) needs to deeply look in the mirror, look at your reflection. Now reflect on this, there is no justification for Charlie Kirk's murder. The reflection you see, is a horrid dark one, for anyone to be trying to justify it in any way. We have freedom of speech. You can disagree vociferously, you can label their speech as hate if you believe it is, but you can't kill someone for exercising their inalienable right.

I agree that murder is always a bad thing. Sometimes it may be justified.. for example in self defense or in defense of others, but that is obviously not the case here. It's appalling that anyone can condone the sorts of political and ideological beliefs that enable and empower savage premeditated gun violence such as Charlie Kirk's murder,... the many school and other mass shootings that occur with such frequency in the USA and the utter indifference to the emotional and physical well being of American citizens who live daily in fear of this sort of senseless violence.
I hope and pray that you will speak out here and now against this horrible situation and work diligently to prevent it in the future. I'm sure that all the Americans appalled by this happening can work together to enact reasonable legislation for gun control. It's gone on long enough. How many Charlie Kirk's have to die before something is done?
Thoughts and Prayers
GJ

 

[Mrmotorscooter]

I do follow my own advice, thanks. There’s definitely left news organizations that exaggerate and inflame as well. I stopped watching medias touch because of this very reason. I try my best to stick to the facts. My politics are very left. But I have a ton of clients and some family members who lean right. I’m not in a competition with you.

You will never hear me talk bad about right leaning people. MAGA cultists ARE NOT right leaning people. Some believed his lies and all those people are dropping off the maga cult like Joe Rogan for example. The rest that are sticking around are in a full on cult.

I think meidas does a pretty good job pulling the veil back on all the MAGA rhetoric, we have X- Canadian MP Charlie Angus who now runs Meidas Canada, he is very thoughtful and is a huge Canadian Patriot.

 

[blackcad]

Not one person in this thread has said it’s ok to murder anybody. Murder is wrong.2 things can be true at the same time. 1. Murder is wrong. 2. Charlie Kirk advocated for some really hurtful things and I am glad he’s not able to spread his hate anymore.

I hear your point, Harmony, and I agree that murder is unequivocally wrong. But your second statement raises a troubling question: how is saying you're glad Charlie Kirk's voice was silenced by murder not a justification of that act? It risks implying that silencing speech you find harmful is a tolerable outcome, even if achieved through violence.

Free speech, even when it offends, is a cornerstone of open discourse. Charlie Kirk’s views—on immigration, life, gender, or the Second Amendment—may have been divisive, but they were his right to express.

Celebrating their end through murder crosses a moral line. It’s not about agreeing with him; it’s about recognizing that no one’s beliefs, no matter how much we disagree, justify their slaughter.The reaction on this thread, with memes and lists of Kirk’s “hateful” views, feels like an attempt to rationalize a tragedy. True decency, as we’ve seen from public figures across the spectrum, is mourning a life lost without qualifiers. If we start deciding whose speech deserves to be silenced by violence, we erode the very principles that allow us to debate and disagree freely. Hate isn’t defeated by murder—it’s amplified. Can we agree that silencing voices through violence, no matter their message, is a path we must reject?

 

[Harmony-bc]

I hear your point, Harmony, and I agree that murder is unequivocally wrong. But your second statement raises a troubling question: how is saying you're glad Charlie Kirk's voice was silenced by murder not a justification of that act? It risks implying that silencing speech you find harmful is a tolerable outcome, even if achieved through violence.

Free speech, even when it offends, is a cornerstone of open discourse. Charlie Kirk’s views—on immigration, life, gender, or the Second Amendment—may have been divisive, but they were his right to express.

Celebrating their end through murder crosses a moral line. It’s not about agreeing with him; it’s about recognizing that no one’s beliefs, no matter how much we disagree, justify their slaughter.The reaction on this thread, with memes and lists of Kirk’s “hateful” views, feels like an attempt to rationalize a tragedy. True decency, as we’ve seen from public figures across the spectrum, is mourning a life lost without qualifiers. If we start deciding whose speech deserves to be silenced by violence, we erode the very principles that allow us to debate and disagree freely. Hate isn’t defeated by murder—it’s amplified. Can we agree that silencing voices through violence, no matter their message, is a path we must reject?

Yes absolutely I can agree that murder is always wrong. And I absolutely agree that everybody is entitled to their opinion. I don’t think he should have been silenced. That is not what I said. I’m heart broken for his wife and children.

I think his platform was very harmful to young people in the USA and Canada and probably around the world. The internet doesn’t keep things in our back yard anymore. However it will probably be 10,000 times worse now because people are turning him into a saint and demonizing the left. This whole craziness of left vs right is just about keeping Trump and Stephen miller in power. Chances are somebody radicalized Tyler to light a match to the tinderbox that is the USA.

 

[westwoody]

The one where it's wrong to slaughter someone because you disagree with them.

Then it’s wrong to ban all abortion including situations where the mother’s life in danger or the fetus is not viable.
It’s wrong to assert school shootings are necessary so incels can feel powerful by owning an assault rifle.
Would you kill Hitler or Goebbels for their rhetoric? Neither of them killed anyone personally. They were just expressing their opinions.

Where was this anger about innocent people being murdered when Breonna Taylor was shot by police while she was sleeping?

 

[westwoody]

This whole craziness of left vs right is just about keeping Trump and Stephen miller in power.

They have created an enemy and convinced the gullible that only Trump can defeat it.
Along the way they provide convenient excuses for underachievers who dropped out of grade nine or who are socially inept-
Can’t get a job? Blame immergunts
Can’t get a girl? Blame women’s libbers
Can’t get into university? Blame elitists