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It's the equivalent of walking into a restaurant and shouting "hurry up with my food you fucking cu*t I'm hungry" and then being upset when the waitress is cold and unfriendly to you. We're all grown men, are we not? Surely we have the capacity of self reflection? The exchange of money doesn't give you the right to belittle or dehumanize someone but it seems to happen all the time. Well these women deal with those type of men all too frequently. And trust me, some guys can't let it go. For example, a guy texting a woman years after he saw her solely to harass and attack her just because he can. When reviews denigrate into pissing matches and personal insults they're not longer reviews.
And the reason for that is?.............................

You can't teach that kind of "stupid".

It comes with birth. :lol:




...........................QM'r
 

ddcanz

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I don't know Riza at all.
I couldn't say one way or the other whether anything posted in this thread is spot on or otherwise.
But I don't necessarily disagree with her.
And I will say that treating people with respect should go without saying.
I'll also imply there seems to be a double standard on this Board at times.
There was a recent thread knocking Alejandra Perotti, and her responsive cunty attitude towards Perbites got her banned. She pretty much said everything that Riza just has. And then piled on some more gems! But her comments came from a very similar place. There was no great outcry or show of support for her, and the thread completely degenerated.
But AP isn't one of the "cool kids" here, with a ton of friends ready to chime in in her defense.
So WK away everybody- most of the adults see through the bullshit anyway, and don't need it spelled out.
And Riza is entitled to her rant- everyone reaches a boiling point now and then.
 

JonnyBoi

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I believe there's a rule that SP's can't derail/comment/be hostile in a review?
I think the lounge is pretty much free for all unless you start giving commentaries and opinions about something that's not relevant or a business that's not advertised here (wasn't there a seeking arrangement thread long ago?).

Regardless, I've never seen the Alejandra post, but I did speak up on the review and was shut down fairly quick because of it. lol.
 

ddcanz

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I believe there's a rule that SP's can't derail/comment/be hostile in a review?
I think the lounge is pretty much free for all unless you start giving commentaries and opinions about something that's not relevant or a business that's not advertised here (wasn't there a seeking arrangement thread long ago?).

Regardless, I've never seen the Alejandra post, but I did speak up on the review and was shut down fairly quick because of it. lol.
Most of that original post has been severely pruned, so not much left to provide details and the proper context. I was involved in it, and it went really bad really fast. Hotmami69 went off the rails.
Maybe not the greatest example of a double standard, but it definitely shows that popularity tends to rule the day.
And to be fair to Riza in making the comparison on thread support- there don't seem to be a lot of favourable AP reviews.
 

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For whatever it is worth, please let me chime in. I hope this helps me make a point that apart from offering us pleasure, there are real human beings inside those bodies that we so quickly criticize.

I saw Riza on Sat Sep 09, 2014 for a 9-00 (or was it a 9-30?) am appointment.

We all know how the age works in this business and enough has already been said about it, so I will reserve my comments. The experience was ok too. I did review her on PERB.

What touched me was what happened after the session. I wrote it in my review as well that after the session, my car would not start and it just died in her drive way. I can not say enough about Riza as a person as I saw her. She had this battery pack she lent me to start my car. She called someone about it to get an opinion. Her offer to drive me to any store near by was just remarkable. It was a Saturday and I was 70 kms from where I was supposed to be that day. When I said, I could call a cab, she offered to drive me. She made sure that I had enough help before she went on her run. I will never forget that.

I still owe you one for that, Riza.

T8E
 
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ddcanz

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Was AP in blue at the time? Unpaid advertisers aren't allowed to comment in their review threads.. whether they're being nice or nasty. If I remember correctly, even Cherise had a temporary ban simply for explaining something about her makeup in a response to her own review a few years back.
Pretty sure AP was in blue.
I tried to post the thread but it wouldn't link.
Search "hotmami69" and you will find it. A couple of her comments are still encapsulated there.
As for Cherise- if that got her banned then I call BS to the particular Mod that made the call.
I get the whole red vs blue thing, and it mostly makes sense.
Maybe I'm completely wrong on this, but a blue girl should still be able to comment- within reason- as long as she is not shilling herself or otherwise attempting an end run around the red fees.
If any random anonymous member can post" bitch lied, said she'd drop her gear but then wouldn't take her panties off" then said girl should be able to reply " I already told you, asshole, I was on my dot and wasn't comfortable going commando" to clarify, whether she is blue, red or even plaid for that matter.
 
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Never been with you Riza but I have visited your place for the other girls.
Love your attitude and your dog!(seriously i love that little dude, I would come just to pet him all day)
But if I ever start having a thing* for older women, I would def hit you up Riza.
 
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VME_Spa

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I think there's always a way to write a bad experience review without being insulting, degrading or down right nasty.
Yes Ava, it would definitely be good to have a "like" button for posts.
 

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You gotta have at least 1 slight not-good review, otherwise it all sounds too good to be true.
Need 1 or 2 mishaps to prove your real.
 

Riza

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Ok, well this didn’t go anything like I thought it would. ParadiseChaser, burcs, Quarter Mile’r, my bud sybian, WW, Sir Lance alot, MissingOne, Stamos, Luvtheladies, Lalani, Officeguy, Ava, Hank, B&E, my friend Tiger, Caramel, uncleg, JonnyBoi, 7of9, apl16, yvr, T8E and anyone I have missed thank you so much for your support and kind words. I wasn’t expecting the outpouring of support from you all but it was greatly appreciated.
I have been following thread but have abstained from posting anything and thought I would let it run its course. I’m not the type that will post just for the sake of posting unless I have something worthwhile to say.
Riza is a very nice person, but really not my type. I like that she is taking no crap.
See guys, (you know who I mean) Is that so difficult. To the point, his personal opinion, gets the point across and everyone has what they like and dislike. No personal attacks or assumptions, I respect that.
JonnyBoi, BP is down, a spa day complete and another coming hehe, thanks for the words. I have never really worried about the rep when that shit comes up, I know the good clients keep coming back and we keep enjoying our time together, it more just pissed me off. As you probably know it takes a lot to piss me off lol.
This, I guess call it an outburst was meant for all the other ladies just as much as me and not just the ones that work with me, all the ladies. And that’s what they/we all are… Ladies, and sometimes in this type of environment/industry it is forgotten that we are people with feelings and emotions and not a commodity.
I don't know Riza at all.
I'll also imply there seems to be a double standard on this Board at times.
There was a recent thread knocking Alejandra Perotti, and her responsive cunty attitude towards Perbites got her banned. She pretty much said everything that Riza just has. And then piled on some more gems! But her comments came from a very similar place. There was no great outcry or show of support for her, and the thread completely degenerated.
But AP isn't one of the "cool kids" here, with a ton of friends ready to chime in in her defense.
And as a FYI you may have not noticed but I know a few members did that this is the second time of my posting this thread. I posted it a week previous to this post and at that time I was in blue. Even though it was in the lounge it referred to a few quotes from reviews which is not allowed. It was up for about 30 minutes and then nuked. It was my bad, I should have known better to post while in blue, I paid and became red just to be able to repost it. I don’t think I am one of the “cool kids” and I follow the rules just like everyone else and have some infractions to prove I slip up occasionally and the rules apply for me also. You should also notice that the reviews that this post was about are still there. I didn’t flag or even if I did it wouldn’t make a difference, they would still be there. I don’t have any special power or consideration with the mod/admin, if I did they would mysteriously disappear. Even this OP got selectively pruned for a few choice words I said that in hindsight I shouldn’t have said.
 

ddcanz

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yes I would agree with you , your language in particular was obscene on the Alejandra Perotti thread

I swear I never meet either you , or her , but I am very curious???

why is it that you are bent on derailing this thread to continue to bad mouth this woman? , she is banned,so I think the mods believe enough said .

There is no comparison here what so ever , 2 different people ,

Riza stood her ground and fortunately she was backed up , including by me , and I have not meet her either

I was was not a member when AP was ripped up but i think most sane people would not have wanted ot step into that pile of shit

Sorry Riza , but I think it is unfortunate that we all cant stand together as Sps Period against poor treatment in general for fear of retaliation .

FOR this reason I am standing here for RIZA AP and all the women in this Industry .

and before anyone says it , yes I think the men deserve Respect and Fair treatment also !!!
Believe me when I say that AP's comments in the mentioned thread were by far completely off side and downright nasty. The vulgar contempt in which she held ANYONE that might have an alternate point of view was as rude as I've ever seen on this board. My return comments were definitely appropriate.
FTR- I don't have anything against AP- nor do I hold a grudge. Read the thread- or what's left of it anyway- you'll see that I was actually willing to see her, despite some negative reviews, until she went psycho. The remaining encapsulated comments of hers are clinically clean compared to some of the shit she dropped.
You seem unable to distinguish that I am in support of Riza as well. Am I mistaken?
She is quite entitled to her rant- again, as I've previously said.
And there is always a comparison when speaking to rebuttal of review content and context etc.
My comments were made towards how certain SPs will get backed to the hilt from others, while some are instantly shot down, with nary another SP chiming in with any positive comments. It happens all the time.
This was not meant to be a thread derailment in the slightest- just my opinion on what I see go down here from my many years of involvement.
 

ddcanz

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Ok, well this didn’t go anything like I thought it would. ParadiseChaser, burcs, Quarter Mile’r, my bud sybian, WW, Sir Lance alot, MissingOne, Stamos, Luvtheladies, Lalani, Officeguy, Ava, Hank, B&E, my friend Tiger, Caramel, uncleg, JonnyBoi, 7of9, apl16, yvr, T8E and anyone I have missed thank you so much for your support and kind words. I wasn’t expecting the outpouring of support from you all but it was greatly appreciated.
I have been following thread but have abstained from posting anything and thought I would let it run its course. I’m not the type that will post just for the sake of posting unless I have something worthwhile to say.
See guys, (you know who I mean) Is that so difficult. To the point, his personal opinion, gets the point across and everyone has what they like and dislike. No personal attacks or assumptions, I respect that.
JonnyBoi, BP is down, a spa day complete and another coming hehe, thanks for the words. I have never really worried about the rep when that shit comes up, I know the good clients keep coming back and we keep enjoying our time together, it more just pissed me off. As you probably know it takes a lot to piss me off lol.
This, I guess call it an outburst was meant for all the other ladies just as much as me and not just the ones that work with me, all the ladies. And that’s what they/we all are… Ladies, and sometimes in this type of environment/industry it is forgotten that we are people with feelings and emotions and not a commodity.

And as a FYI you may have not noticed but I know a few members did that this is the second time of my posting this thread. I posted it a week previous to this post and at that time I was in blue. Even though it was in the lounge it referred to a few quotes from reviews which is not allowed. It was up for about 30 minutes and then nuked. It was my bad, I should have known better to post while in blue, I paid and became red just to be able to repost it. I don’t think I am one of the “cool kids” and I follow the rules just like everyone else and have some infractions to prove I slip up occasionally and the rules apply for me also. You should also notice that the reviews that this post was about are still there. I didn’t flag or even if I did it wouldn’t make a difference, they would still be there. I don’t have any special power or consideration with the mod/admin, if I did they would mysteriously disappear. Even this OP got selectively pruned for a few choice words I said that in hindsight I shouldn’t have said.
The "cool kids" remark was tongue in cheek- let's call it a playful shot at certain members (in both red and blue) of your known acquaintance.
I wasn't implying that you get any special treatment from the Mods or Admin when it comes to the rules, infractions, bannings etc. Truth be told, I've been given my own time out a few years back for suggesting it.
In fact, as I said, I believe that SPs- blue or red- should be given certain latitudes to respond to what they feel is unfair criticism.
In this case, yours was a stand alone red rant in the Lounge, as opposed to my comparative example of a blue response to an unfavourable review.
If I'm guilty of anything it would be a perceived thread derailment- which was not my intent, when in fact I'm just commenting on how some SPs receive a raft of support in comparison to others.
 

ddcanz

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I am sorry if I offended you ...but
nothing about calling any woman a C.... is appropriate PERIOD ! I will not comment again on that . ( call this my pet Peeve ) maybe I need to post it in the pet peeve thread :)
Is is not my understaning that most men Like Pussy
but you use a vulgar term for pussy as a harsh name calling of a woman who besides being a SP is a human being ?

BTW Most woman hate being called whores too, even if it is literally correct :)

As for my not seeming to distinguish your support of Riza , you are not mistaken
Thank you for clearing that up :)

I think the reason that most wont stand up is because of the pervasiveness of attacking in forums in general, and on this one in particular.

I do not think many people enjoy " walking into the line of fire " and most of us do not have time to debate and pick apart every word or implication of ever word we say .

I promise you that , had I been in red at the time, I would have backed AP or any other fellow SP , ( as you see I am doing this now ) that is just how I am as a woman and a human being . You did continue to put her down in this thread , let is be bygones and move on hunni :)

Please note that AP made some claims regarding perb members as client ratio is backed up here by a few sps, many of us have made a great living for years with perb members only being approx 10 % of our clientele base.

thank you for your opinion on what you I see go down here from your many years of involvement. Much Appreciated :)
I'll be the first to admit that many, if not most SPs do a fine "business" without Perbite involvement. I pooned for years without any knowledge of this Board.
And I'm not offended by your point of view or any comments you have made..
And I also understand your view on the C-word. It is the same outlook that many women have. But many women also use it in similar fashion, as well as other choice nuggets. "Words are weapons, sharper than knives..." (the late Michael Hutchence).
But no need to debate this- we both stand where we do.
I'll assume from your knowledgeable commentary that although you are newly in red you know your way around here with some experience...?
Welcome to the board, AA. :)
 

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lmao I came here as a paid advertiser and read threads for 2 weeks solid before I would even post an ad lol
Part of my reasoning in joining is to meet other SP for support and the social aspect , being an sp has it lonely moments , not like you can tell all your straight friends or talk about your bad days etc with them etc .

I was trying to get a feel for the place , but yes you are correct in assuming I have been a lurker for a few months :) but I would not say I know my way around quite yet :) lol

I am still getting to know the whos who , who to respond too ,and who to avoid :) like I said I am still a newbie learning :)

Cheers :) and Thank You for the Kind welcome :)
I know how you feel with the lonely moments, as I'm a hundred Klms from the nearest town, or large urban centre.
Sometimes I find it strange that I see a local resident Bear more often than I see another human....Until haying, or branding season, and my Ranch is occupied with Lowermainlanders that wanna take a swing at Cowboying for a weekend.
I have no landline or cell signal, and rely on satellite for communications, and this is a bit of a social fix for myself because I find Facebook ridiculous...So we have that in common.
A heartfelt welcome with hat in hand, to this social Zoo Ava.....May all your horses be gentle.
 

poonerboi

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Was AP in blue at the time? Unpaid advertisers aren't allowed to comment in their review threads.. whether they're being nice or nasty. If I remember correctly, even Cherise had a temporary ban simply for explaining something about her makeup in a response to her own review a few years back.
Apparently red status doesn't necessarily mean shit if you get on a mods bad side. From what I understand, Cherise became a paid advertiser for the sole purpose of having freedom of speech in the lounge and reviews section. However after posting a thread that made members go hmmmmm, she logged on one day to discover the lounge didn't exist.She had been banned from the lounge without a warning or reason ever given. They said she wasn't banned(still welcome to advertise) she had merely lost lounge privileges.

I was to learn later on another board, that some members that had posted in that same thread were banned permanently. Of course, I only have Cherises story as that was when I made an account here, errantly thinking
I was doing her a favor and ultimately caused more grief for her. But that is a whole other story!
 

Lo-ki

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Was AP in blue at the time? Unpaid advertisers aren't allowed to comment in their review threads.. whether they're being nice or nasty. If I remember correctly, even Cherise had a temporary ban simply for explaining something about her makeup in a response to her own review a few years back.
I remember that....I though her response was awesome. But if the MOD's have a different take...your hooped. This was sooooo long ago. Cherise looks awesome with or without make up. She has a heart of gold. I for one vote to have her back on perb... Just my take on it.
 

apl16

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I remember that....I though her response was awesome. But if the MOD's have a different take...your hooped. This was sooooo long ago. Cherise looks awesome with or without make up. She has a heart of gold. I for one vote to have her back on perb... Just my take on it.
What you said.......but I like Cherise a lot......great lady with my kind of sense of humour!

Btw, first time I've met a lady with a muffin top......and found it incredibly sexy!
 

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I vote to bring Cherise back too.
Wholly agree. Would be precious seeing Cherise return back onto Perb. If perb is beginning to change its ways or turning over a new leaf ( sort of speak ), then I suggest to reinstate Cherise :thumb::high5:
She has a new location and seems to be doing fine. I pm her on occasion seeing how she's been.
 
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