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Trump - Will he be in again?

Is Trump Going To Be In Again For 2nd Term?

  • No Way - Yay!

    Votes: 30 29.1%
  • Absolutely Yes - Can't Believe You Voted Yes

    Votes: 64 62.1%
  • Not Sure - Why Not?

    Votes: 9 8.7%

  • Total voters
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I think Trump will win again.
The Democrats look totally unorganized.
they don't need to be that organized

Hilliary lost because people stayed home and didn't vote, in 4 states, where they are registered as democrats

Trump barely won, like all his other exagerations

like that his Daughter created 15 million jobs, like he's responsible for the last 10yrs of growth

and the economy, it isn't the BEST EVER

it's average just over 2% growth

under Obama, they had basically just as many jobs created in his last 3 yrs as the GREAT ORANGE HOPE has in his, lol

he won 4 states by about 100,000 or less

Pennsylvania 68,236 votes

Michigan 11,837 votes

Wisconsin 27,257 votes

Florida 114,455 votes

he barely won, you think his base has grown? lol

there are young people who are able to vote now, you think he's got their vote?

not to mention all the people in the first 3 who are hurting cause of his policies

look at the last round of state elections, it won't take much to switch or organize

Hilliary didn't even show up to a couple of those places

pretty hard not to organize better than that this time, lol
 
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Interesting reading about Bernie Sanders hauling in $25M in January. He’s not part of any Super Pack or corporate food trough.

1.5 M single donations averaging $18 per contribution. Other than the two billionaires, every other candidate is hurting for more contributions. He will be funded all the way to California now.

If working class and young people under 30 get organized, this may chip away at #45’s dissatisfied voters from 2016.
 

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they don't need to be that organized

Hilliary lost because people stayed home and didn't vote, in 4 states, where they are registered as democrats

Trump barely won, like all his other exagerations

like that his Daughter created 15 million jobs, like he's responsible for the last 10yrs of growth

and the economy, it isn't the BEST EVER

it's average just over 2% growth

under Obama, they had basically just as many jobs created in his last 3 yrs as the GREAT ORANGE HOPE has in his, lol

he won 4 states by about 100,000 or less

Pennsylvania 68,236 votes

Michigan 11,837 votes

Wisconsin 27,257 votes

Florida 114,455 votes

he barely won, you think his base has grown? lol

there are young people who are able to vote now, you think he's got their vote?

not to mention all the people in the first 3 who are hurting cause of his policies

look at the last round of state elections, it won't take much to switch or organize

Hilliary didn't even show up to a couple of those places

pretty hard not to organize better than that this time, lol
You forgot about back and Hispanic voters.

Democrats take it as a given that they vote Democrat.

Trump has been making inroads into that base, and he only has to turn a small percentage of them to guarantee a victory.

Democrats are great at promising black voters the world, but preside over the most poverty-stricken ghettoes in America - St. Louis, Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland, Washington, etc
 

Shakerod

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they don't need to be that organized

Hilliary lost because people stayed home and didn't vote, in 4 states, where they are registered as democrats

Trump barely won, like all his other exagerations

like that his Daughter created 15 million jobs, like he's responsible for the last 10yrs of growth

and the economy, it isn't the BEST EVER

it's average just over 2% growth

under Obama, they had basically just as many jobs created in his last 3 yrs as the GREAT ORANGE HOPE has in his, lol

he won 4 states by about 100,000 or less

Pennsylvania 68,236 votes

Michigan 11,837 votes

Wisconsin 27,257 votes

Florida 114,455 votes

he barely won, you think his base has grown? lol

there are young people who are able to vote now, you think he's got their vote?

not to mention all the people in the first 3 who are hurting cause of his policies

look at the last round of state elections, it won't take much to switch or organize

Hilliary didn't even show up to a couple of those places

pretty hard not to organize better than that this time, lol
Your theory might have had some credibility had they actually brought in a viable candidate to run against him and not spend the last three years trying to get rid of him. This latest impeachment joke has made the Democrats the laughing stock of the country, aside from California and New York. The D’s chances of winning are slim to none, and ‘slim’ left the building a long time ago.
 

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Interesting that the majority will vote absolutely yes yet are split on why he will win. He will win because most Americans fail to understand that Trump is the Anti Christ and he is destined to rule. They accept every lie as truth and ignore their fate.

They worship the false god.
Talking with bat-shit-crazy-bible-thumping Texans and Die-Hard Red State Supporters, Trump is NOT A GOD. He is an Angel sent by God to clean up all this democratic PC do nothing but whine bullshit. Whereas they see Trump as the necessary change agent who shakes up the criteria for glib politics, and is making America Great Again. They can argue he is doing just that despite the personal flagrances and consequences. The dems don’t understand how to market themselves or stand against that; they are victims of their own quagmire. Dems: Don’t Expect Much Sucker! We are good at criticizing and fundraising, but not really clear about anything else. Yup, the world unfortunately gets the US President that the US electorate can at least understand. Bernie has a wierd shot and is surging, just because he has a clear consistent message that is polar opposite to Trumps clear consistent campaign. But “Vote for me? I’m a do-godder and I hate Trump” is a pathetic vision for America. Fucking morons—Bring back peanut farmers and cigar fetishers that have a solid narrative and they could win this thing. Probly next time tho.
 

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Of greater importance, the red tide will likely render Pelosi a spot out in the audience rather than on the podium.

It should be funny to watch.
 

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they don't need to be that organized

Hilliary lost because people stayed home and didn't vote, in 4 states, where they are registered as democrats


Your post lacks clear understanding.


Hillary lost only because she did not campaign in most of the states.


She made the same stupid mistake in 2008 when surprised by Obama, and then blundered once again, almost predictably so, in 2016.
 

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Interesting that the majority will vote absolutely yes yet are split on why he will win. He will win because most Americans fail to understand that Trump is the Anti Christ and he is destined to rule. They accept every lie as truth and ignore their fate.

They worship the false god.
i literally thought that Obama was
 

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Of course at this point in the 2016 election process everyone was laughing at the the thought that Trump would ever be in the White House. Who knows what the next 9 months will bring.
 

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Exactly, nobody really knows. Between now and November is a very long time.

The Democrats are still leaning on being morally right, but tactically and strategically, they seem to fuck everything up. They alienate their own idealistic base by having the party elite screwing over people like Sanders, Gabbard, etc. in favour of people like Buttigieg, Bloomberg, etc. Do they really think that their own base will do anything other than walk away from voting if they think things have been rigged in favour of the elite for 4 more years?

If people are tired of eating shit, you don't offer them a glass of warm piss to wash it down. Presenting voters with a lose-lose choice is a huge advantage to the incumbent in general.

It's like the Dems think Trump being a crooked asshole is going to win them they election all by itself. Didn't work in 2016 with Hillary. Why would it work now?

Can Trump be beaten by the Democrats? Yes, definitely. Will they get their act together well enough to do so? Who the hell knows. Not me. Flip a coin.









Or maybe there's this:

He will win because most Americans fail to understand that Trump is the Anti Christ and he is destined to rule. They accept every lie as truth and ignore their fate.

They worship the false god.
 
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BobbyMcgee

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Exactly, nobody really knows. Between now and November is a very long time.

The Democrats are still leaning on being morally right, but tactically and strategically, they seem to fuck everything up. They alienate their own idealistic base by having the party elite screwing over people like Sanders, Gabbard, etc. in favour of people like Buttigieg, Bloomberg, etc. Do they really think that their own base will do anything other than walk away from voting if they think things have been rigged in favour of the elite for 4 more years?

If people are tired of eating shit, you don't offer them a glass of warm piss to wash it down. Presenting voters with a lose-lose choice is a huge advantage to the incumbent in general.

It's like the Dems think Trump being a crooked asshole is going to win them they election all by itself. Didn't work in 2016 with Hillary. Why would it work now?

Can Trump be beaten by the Democrats? Yes, definitely. Will they get their act together well enough to do so? Who the hell knows. Not me. Flip a coin.
the Dems are “morally right” so that was a Hillary character trait people think...
 

rlock

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the Dems are “morally right” so that was a Hillary character trait people think...
Well, most Democrats certainly believe it about themselves.

Republicans used to believe it of themselves too. Now I think it's getting harder for them to keep up that image while following Trump's assertion that ethics is for losers & winning justifies everything.

It's not like either party down there is great at policing themselves. Real internal debate is banished. Woe be to anyone who pops their own party's balloon of infallibility; they get shit on immediately by their own side for "not being a team player".

Meanwhile, the undercurrent "on the streets" is that more and more voters feel like rejecting both sides at the same time.
 

BobbyMcgee

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Well, most Democrats certainly believe it about themselves.

Republicans used to believe it of themselves too. Now I think it's getting harder for them to keep up that image while following Trump's assertion that ethics is for losers & winning justifies everything.

It's not like either party down there is great at policing themselves. Real internal debate is banished. Woe be to anyone who pops their own party's balloon of infallibility; they get shit on immediately by their own side for "not being a team player".

Meanwhile, the undercurrent "on the streets" is that more and more voters feel like rejecting both sides at the same time.
perhaps Elizabeth May and Andrew Scheer ought to capitalize on their American citizenry and Canadian Political party affiliations and start up the Greens and Cons south of the 49th. Make the two party landscape more interesting.
 

Shakerod

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Exactly, nobody really knows. Between now and November is a very long time.

The Democrats are still leaning on being morally right, but tactically and strategically, they seem to fuck everything up. They alienate their own idealistic base by having the party elite screwing over people like Sanders, Gabbard, etc. in favour of people like Buttigieg, Bloomberg, etc. Do they really think that their own base will do anything other than walk away from voting if they think things have been rigged in favour of the elite for 4 more years?

If people are tired of eating shit, you don't offer them a glass of warm piss to wash it down. Presenting voters with a lose-lose choice is a huge advantage to the incumbent in general.

It's like the Dems think Trump being a crooked asshole is going to win them they election all by itself. Didn't work in 2016 with Hillary. Why would it work now?

Can Trump be beaten by the Democrats? Yes, definitely. Will they get their act together well enough to do so? Who the hell knows. Not me. Flip a coin.









Or maybe there's this:
The Democrats can’t even count votes for a small turnout at their Iowa caucus. Why would you think they could ever beat Trump?
 

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Trump will get re-elected because he has had a good deal of success.Unemployment is way down and productivity is way up.Trump got the USMCA deal done and has brought back manufacturing to the USA.He has done more in 4 years than Obama did in 8 years and under Trump the US government did not give a trillion dollar bailout to banks etc.

The behavior by the Dems is not helping either.The impeachment trial was a joke and doomed to fail right off the mark.Pelosi ripping up that speech made her look just plain pathetic and a desperate drama queen.The Iowa caucus was even more pathetic LOL.Then there are the candidates and their policies...ol curmudgenly Bernie yapping about DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM like a clueless idiot who just cant grasp that no matter what word you put in front of it SOCIALISM just does not work.I
actually hope Bernie gets the nomination so he can lose and be labelled as a loser and never contend again.As for Mitt Romney that guy committed political suicide IMO.

I dont actually like Trump much but he has done a good job overall and Americans for the most part know and see this as well.

I say Trump wins and hopefully he gets the tri-fecta of the white house,congress and the senate and really get some stuff done.
 

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Trump will get re-elected because he has had a good deal of success.Unemployment is way down and productivity is way up.Trump got the USMCA deal done and has brought back manufacturing to the USA.He has done more in 4 years than Obama did in 8 years and under Trump the US government did not give a trillion dollar bailout to banks etc.

The behavior by the Dems is not helping either.The impeachment trial was a joke and doomed to fail right off the mark.Pelosi ripping up that speech made her look just plain pathetic and a desperate drama queen.The Iowa caucus was even more pathetic LOL.Then there are the candidates and their policies...ol curmudgenly Bernie yapping about DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM like a clueless idiot who just cant grasp that no matter what word you put in front of it SOCIALISM just does not work.I
actually hope Bernie gets the nomination so he can lose and be labelled as a loser and never contend again.As for Mitt Romney that guy committed political suicide IMO.

I dont actually like Trump much but he has done a good job overall and Americans for the most part know and see this as well.

I say Trump wins and hopefully he gets the tri-fecta of the white house,congress and the senate and really get some stuff done.
I agree with everything you said. As far as liking him...to me, it’s never been about liking him, or disliking him as a person. A president has to make tough decisions for the overall good of everyone in the country, he doesn’t have to appease the media, or the opposition. The difference I find this time is that they use the word ‘Hatred’, which to me is a personal attack. Like they are afraid that he is about to expose something personal about them, and they aren’t willing to let the political process play out. This is far different from what I have ever seen.
 

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I agree with everything you said. As far as liking him...to me, it’s never been about liking him, or disliking him as a person. A president has to make tough decisions for the overall good of everyone in the country, he doesn’t have to appease the media, or the opposition. The difference I find this time is that they use the word ‘Hatred’, which to me is a personal attack. Like they are afraid that he is about to expose something personal about them, and they aren’t willing to let the political process play out. This is far different from what I have ever seen.
Thank you for your followed up insights.

SR
 

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. . . I dont actually like Trump much but he has done a good job overall . . .


It pains me like a dimesized asspimple to say so but that's what I think too.

He wants this unpopular Southern border wall. For $4Bill, prob more. If not that then what? The border is separated by nothing but the Rio Grande and Colorado Rivers for 1500 miles. 1000 illegal entrants used to cross every day. Now its more like 3000. If you don't want the wall then propose a better solution. Nobody does.

He killed General Soleimani with an Air Force drone strike. The guy was evilness personified. A justifiable homicide. Can you imagine Elizabeth Warren ordering that?

A few months ago he was being challenged by a reporter for withdrawing more troops from Afghanistan. He said in a famous Trumpian soundbite: "I like peace. I like peace." I actually believe him in that quote. A tremendously good attitude for a president.

If his handlers could wean him off Twitter he'd be a shoe-in for reelection.
 

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Trump will get re-elected because he has had a good deal of success.Unemployment is way down and productivity is way up.Trump got the USMCA deal done and has brought back manufacturing to the USA.He has done more in 4 years than Obama did in 8 years and under Trump the US government did not give a trillion dollar bailout to banks etc.

The behavior by the Dems is not helping either.The impeachment trial was a joke and doomed to fail right off the mark.Pelosi ripping up that speech made her look just plain pathetic and a desperate drama queen.The Iowa caucus was even more pathetic LOL.Then there are the candidates and their policies...ol curmudgenly Bernie yapping about DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM like a clueless idiot who just cant grasp that no matter what word you put in front of it SOCIALISM just does not work.I
actually hope Bernie gets the nomination so he can lose and be labelled as a loser and never contend again.As for Mitt Romney that guy committed political suicide IMO.

I dont actually like Trump much but he has done a good job overall and Americans for the most part know and see this as well.

I say Trump wins and hopefully he gets the tri-fecta of the white house,congress and the senate and really get some stuff done.
I can't believe you guys never check your facts. Obama had the financial crisis to deal with. Trump was handed a good economy, he just hasn't screwed up yet. On the other hand, he gave millionaires and billionaires a huge break and peanuts to the average joe.

Also Trump had control of the house and lost it. It is possible he might regain but not guaranteed.
 
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