Trump for President. Who's hopping on the bandwagon? Who's digging a bunker?

[sdw]

O.K....so the first Black President drew a bigger crowd then the first Orange President.....so what...there are more Black people then there are Orange people.....what did they expect ?
Really though.....if image/ego is going to be a major concern for this administration then we got a shitload of problems coming that nobody expected.

lol, no doubt that the USA has a lot of problems already and more coming. Trump has already demonstrated that he doesn't listen to advice that conflicts with his world view.

If there is anything that demonstrates that people should vote - even when the polls say your candidate will easily win - this election has proved that.

I think that the major driver for Trump is the question of if his election is legitimate. There is no question that a lot of people were interfering with a desire for Hillary to be defeated. The Director of the FBI for one, Putin for another, Sanders excreta. Probably as many were interfering with a desire for Trump to be defeated, but Trump played that masterfully and convinced his supporters that they had to vote because of the "massive conspiracy" against him. I'm sure that people are already working away to garner support for a try at impeaching Trump - but they won't succeed with that. The bar is pretty high and the Republicans have a Super Majority.

 

[clu]

If you call up the Washington DC Mall and look just west of the Washington Memorial (near 15th NW) you will see what I'm talking about when it doesn't have tents all around it. If you go a little further west, (a half block before Smithsonian Castle) you'll see that Google Earth is showing the mall all torn up with construction. I thought that might be the new WWI memorial, but that's going in Pershing Park up towards E street, so I don't know what they are doing there.

Huh? 15th isn't even in frame in any of these pictures (including the one from 2008). The bottommost horizontal path in the shots is the one that connects the Dept. of Agriculture on the right to the Museum of American History on the left, half way between 12th and 14th.

 

[Tugela]

The American voter got what they deserved. Many didn't vote, some because they believed the polls that said Hillary was going win easily - some because they believed the Director of the FBI when he said that Hillary is a crook - some because Hillary wasn't enough of a feminist for them.

Now, they are whining because it has percolated into their tiny brains that all of the "Social Safety Net" stuff that Obama and Hillary were willing to pay for - are gone. The Donald isn't willing to pay for that stuff. Goodbye Federal Funding for Abortion - the third bill that the Donald signed abolished it for NGOs and his first order of business is to abolish it in the USA.

The media wasn't helping. They were only too happy to report the fake polling numbers, only too happy to report the partisan attack by the Director of the FBI. The media still isn't helping. They are reporting a clumsy Photoshop job as if it was real news.

The polling numbers were not "fake". The national numbers (for which there was plenty of data) were fairly close to the final vote counts. The trend at the end of the campaign had Clinton winning the national vote by about 3.2 points (with a margin of error of around 3 points), and she won by 2.1 points, which was pretty damned close to what the polls predicted. The numbers which deviated were those for individual states, but that was primarily because in those cases the sample numbers were small and consequently the uncertainty much larger. Trump lucked out in that he fell on the right side of that uncertainty in critical states, and that is what won him the election.

The people who are slamming the polls now never understood them in the first place.

 

[Tugela]

In fairness, I think the oppostion to Trump first drew attention to the crowd size, which is ironic since anti-Trumpers criticize him for being a reality TV star, yet they see some kind of relevance in crowd size.

Probably because they knew it would goad him into behaving like a 4 year old and result in him looking like an idiot.

This is not going to be the end of it either, they are going to keep on poking so that he keeps on self destructing, the ultimate goal being to provide them with electoral fodder going into the 2018 and 2020 elections. The rallying cry in 2018 and 2020 is going to be "Lock him up!!".

 

[Tugela]

Trump cares deeply about how he is perceived and about popularity, it bothers him so much and its a top priority for him. Americans have once again proved they are one of the dumbest western/developed populations on the planet by electing him. Now he is saying 3 million people voted illegally, but is doing nothing about it. He is worried that he didn't win the popular vote, but he is the president, but that's not enough for him apparently.

This is just hilarious, I had to save it, these are democrats at a hearing displaying the ridiculousness of Trump's rhetoric lately...

It is because his daddy was an asshole and did not love him. As a result he has had a deep seated inadequacy complex his whole life where is has to prove that he is better than everyone else (and consequently deserving of his fathers respect and affection). And the way he does it is by screwing everyone else over, bullying and denigrating them. The smaller he makes them seem, the bigger he feels to himself. But it is never enough, it is a hole in his soul that can never be filled. So he goes on, and on, never getting to that place he wants but leaving a trail of emotional destruction behind him as he goes along.

I think just about everyone has met people like that at some point in their life. It is usually ugly. It is a mindset that becomes ingrained in them. He is not going to change.

 

[Tugela]

lol, no doubt that the USA has a lot of problems already and more coming. Trump has already demonstrated that he doesn't listen to advice that conflicts with his world view.

If there is anything that demonstrates that people should vote - even when the polls say your candidate will easily win - this election has proved that.

I think that the major driver for Trump is the question of if his election is legitimate. There is no question that a lot of people were interfering with a desire for Hillary to be defeated. The Director of the FBI for one, Putin for another, Sanders excreta. Probably as many were interfering with a desire for Trump to be defeated, but Trump played that masterfully and convinced his supporters that they had to vote because of the "massive conspiracy" against him. I'm sure that people are already working away to garner support for a try at impeaching Trump - but they won't succeed with that. The bar is pretty high and the Republicans have a Super Majority.

The Democrats won't be able to impeach him since they don't have a majority in the house. And impeachment is not going to happen for anyone unless there is especially egregious behaviour, since you need 67 votes in the senate to do it. BUT, what they will do is agitate among the general population in the 2018 election on a platform of impeaching him, with the objective being to win the house (and on a long shot the senate, but that is unlikely in 2018 because of the seats up for election that year). Assuming they get the house, the next 2 years will be spend fighting and obstructing everything Trump does, much like the Republicans did to Obama. The goal then would be to ensure that the Democrats take the white house in 2020, and perhaps the senate as well (since the 33 seats up then would be more favorable).

So they will be playing the long game, with the ultimate goal of controlling all three in 2020. In that scenario they WANT Trump to be there, since it will provide them with the political fodder to make the strategy work.

The wild card however will be what the REPUBLICANS do. They might very well impeach Trump before 2018 themselves, and if they do that then the Democrats will have to go along with that. For the Republicans that would be the ideal scenario since then they would get Pence, a good party man, and it would defang the line of attack that the Democrats would be taking through 2020. Trump could very well be the fall-guy tool they use to retain power in Washington, even if he does not realize that right now (or maybe he does, and will try to outflank them himself).

So it should be interesting. Get some popcorn!

 

[westwoody]

Well, there was little enthusiasm this time; after that shitty campaign where both candidates were mostly disliked and voter turnout was way down, it is not surprising.

Yes the difference in the atmosphere in DC is amazing...you can feel it just walking down the street.

2009 everyone was upbeat and hoping for big things, since Cheeto face won everyone is glum.

 

[sdw]

Yes the difference in the atmosphere in DC is amazing...you can feel it just walking down the street.

2009 everyone was upbeat and hoping for big things, since Cheeto face won everyone is glum.

lol, today's news is that all of the State Department's senior staff have resigned. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nt-team-just-resigned/?utm_term=.af0b3f65fd67

I wonder how many other senior Washington DC jobs have an incumbent that has their resume in wide circulation.

Obama was a disappointment. There was so much hope for real change and he turned out to be a dud. With Trump, there is no hope. He can't disappoint. For most people, the question is only "how badly will I be damaged by the idiot".

Obama's list of accomplishments was undone with the first 3 executive orders that Trump signed.

 

[clu]

Obama was a disappointment. There was so much hope for real change and he turned out to be a dud. With Trump, there is no hope. He can't disappoint. For most people, the question is only "how badly will I be damaged by the idiot".

Well the hope with Trump is, like Obama, he will fail to accomplish everything he aspired to. Like the Daily Show pointed out, executive orders are wish lists not Emperor decrees. One of Obama's executive orders was to close Guantanamo.

 

[uncleg]

Obama was a disappointment. There was so much hope for real change and he turned out to be a dud. With Trump, there is no hope. He can't disappoint. For most people, the question is only "how badly will I be damaged by the idiot".

Obama's list of accomplishments was undone with the first 3 executive orders that Trump signed.

With friends like Reid and Pulosy..Obama didn't really need any enemies...so there went the first half of the first term...then when the GOP managed to take the Senate back he was fucked for the rest of his time in office. He's lucky he got as much done as he did...even the Republicans knew when to draw the line. Should be interesting to see how much of Trumps' nuttiness the GOP will support.....or at least make a show of supporting.

 

[Cock Throppled]

lol, today's news is that all of the State Department's senior staff have resigned. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nt-team-just-resigned/?utm_term=.af0b3f65fd67

More half news from the WaPo - State Department officials traditionally submit their resignations at the beginning of every new administration as a sign of respect, but it is largely a symbolic gesture. The admnistration says they were asked to leave. There have been major screw-ups at State, so holding senior staff to be held accountable by losing their jobs, seems logical. This is the way a business operates, but unfortunately in government, most never pay any price if they are deemed incompetent or inadequate.

 

[sdw]

With friends like Reid and Pulosy..Obama didn't really need any enemies...so there went the first half of the first term...then when the GOP managed to take the Senate back he was fucked for the rest of his time in office. He's lucky he got as much done as he did...even the Republicans knew when to draw the line. Should be interesting to see how much of Trumps' nuttiness the GOP will support.....or at least make a show of supporting.

Add Bernie Sanders and Joe Lieberman whom both had to be bought off to get the flawed version of Obamacare through the Senate.

Of course, Trump has his own Lieberman in John McCain who was just re-elected for another 6 years.

 

[Tugela]

I think he has quite a few other Liebermans as well. Graham, Paul, Rubio, Cruz, just to name a few. All of those guys would be only to happy to dig him a deep hole, and most of them have presidential aspirations of their own.

 

[BaconNeggs]

The dynamics of this forum are an interesting psychological study.
If a perb user slightly alters the last name of Obama he is slammed and called juvenile.
But do much worse name calling against Trump, like using the term Cheeto Face, and not a word of how disgraceful it is.
Prejudice is what some label Trump.
Those people should look in a mirror.

 

[wetnose]

Trump giving a helping hand to the troops in the Middle East

 

[wetnose]

America, the shining city on the hill.

(just...don't mind the screams of people being tortured)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...olutely-works-donald-trump-discusses-torture/

 

[Warl0ck]

I'm more interested now in the dynamic between Trump and his wife. If you've never heard of it, look up Facial Action Coding System (FACS). It's a skill set where people watch body language, facial express, etc and can draw judgement on things. And it's very accurate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_Action_Coding_System

tl:dr? Trump's wife can't STAND the guy.

And Trump is about as technically illiterate as they come. His Twitter account has been hacked numerous times & now he's the President. I saw today on social media he's using a gmail account for the official POTUS twitter account. As a guy deep into the world of hacking and security, I almost sing with glee and the up & coming monster fuck ups this will cause. Look no further than when hacker group "Team Poison" fucked Tony Blair over hacking his own personal accounts and dumping the data. And one of the members of that crew was "Tr1ck" who was an alleged ISIS hacker and was killed by a US drone strike.

The NSA must be putting in overtime on this shit. It's like standing at the side of a highway waiting for a coming car crash.

 

[sdw]

I'm more interested now in the dynamic between Trump and his wife. If you've never heard of it, look up Facial Action Coding System (FACS). It's a skill set where people watch body language, facial express, etc and can draw judgement on things. And it's very accurate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_Action_Coding_System

tl:dr? Trump's wife can't STAND the guy.

And Trump is about as technically illiterate as they come. His Twitter account has been hacked numerous times & now he's the President. I saw today on social media he's using a gmail account for the official POTUS twitter account. As a guy deep into the world of hacking and security, I almost sing with glee and the up & coming monster fuck ups this will cause. Look no further than when hacker group "Team Poison" fucked Tony Blair over hacking his own personal accounts and dumping the data. And one of the members of that crew was "Tr1ck" who was an alleged ISIS hacker and was killed by a US drone strike.

The NSA must be putting in overtime on this shit. It's like standing at the side of a highway waiting for a coming car crash.

She didn't find out that he's an inconsiderate boar yesterday. He probably learned from his previous marriages and has an incredibly restrictive pre-nup. It's all about the money honey.

 

[Larry Storch]

The dynamics of this forum are an interesting psychological study.
If a perb user slightly alters the last name of Obama he is slammed and called juvenile.
But do much worse name calling against Trump, like using the term Cheeto Face, and not a word of how disgraceful it is.
Prejudice is what some label Trump.
Those people should look in a mirror.

Applying psychological reasoning to a political debate/argument is like bathing three cats in a Jacuzzi.

 

[Jalapeno]

I want Trump to have a chance to employ his ideas, just the way Obama did (hopefully with less drone murders), but this group of misguided rioters/protesters wants marshall law because they didn't win.

Is this the result of a media that slants left without most of us noticing, plus handing out participation trophies throughout all these kids lives, so that they never face adversity and thus, cry when they don't get their way?

I'd be embarrassed if I still considered myself a liberal.