Trudeau how can he win the next election

[Andrew69913]

Storm Rider, out of curiosity, if you had to choose (no abstaining, no third choice) would you rather an NDP government or a Liberal government?

My opinion of the Liberals is that it's the party the far left and far right would hate less to see in power than their polar opposite. i.e. they're more likely to make us all equally miserable, which in a weird way makes them the most democratic choice.

My opinion of the Liberals is that they are NDP in sheep's clothing....

 

[badbadboy]

Storm Rider, out of curiosity, if you had to choose (no abstaining, no third choice) would you rather an NDP government or a Liberal government?

My opinion of the Liberals is that it's the party the far left and far right would hate less to see in power than their polar opposite. i.e. they're more likely to make us all equally miserable, which in a weird way makes them the most democratic choice.

I have a feeling people who vote Liberal either truly believe in them or plug their noses when faced with the choice of the left or right. Or they were passionate about getting Harper out like I was last election.

 

[Ray]

People tend to not vote 'for' a party, but to vote someone out. I've been seeing this the last few elections

 

[clu]

My opinion of the Liberals is that they are NDP in sheep's clothing....

That's a very surprising statement. No matter where anyone I've known has been on the political spectrum, I've never heard anyone consider Liberals and NDP equivalent. Why do you think that?

 

[Atticus]

Trudeau haters never voted for Trudeau in the first place and tend to have a very Conservative bias, so generally their arguments are preaching to their own and don't resonate with the broader electorate. And to be clear, I am not a Liberal voter.

Government spending always trumps debt with the electorate. And remember, it was Harper who added $150 billion to the country's debt, erasing all of Chretien's deficit and debt cutting.

The outrage over the Omar payment is another case in point, not only was it supported by our legal system, but morally it fell in line with our international commitment to recognize and protect child soldiers. Even Omar's appointed US military lawyer condemned Harper's lack of advocacy and was disgusted by our government's inaction - he was interviewed on 'As it Happens'.

Outside of the Canadian Conservatives and their supporters, Chrystia is seen as a star who has returned Canada to being an international middle power. While I was away travelling, every single European I met, upon learning I was Canadian, voiced that they love both Trudeau and Chrystia, while during the Harper years nobody outside of Canada even knew his name, let alone any of his ministers of foreign affairs.

The polls suggest the Liberals are still more popular than the Conservatives, but it is so close, it will be an interesting year.

Voice of reason in a sea of ignorance. Thank you.

 

[80watts]

Unfortuneately with the Liberals, now its the scandal of the SNC Lavlin and the ex Justice Minister. Press is having a field day....
So what is happening with China???

 

[Forthedevil]

Unfortuneately with the Liberals, now its the scandal of the SNC Lavlin and the ex Justice Minister. Press is having a field day....
So what is happening with China???

China is laughing at our incredibly inept Trudeau govt.

 

[storm rider]

Storm Rider, out of curiosity, if you had to choose (no abstaining, no third choice) would you rather an NDP government or a Liberal government?

My opinion of the Liberals is that it's the party the far left and far right would hate less to see in power than their polar opposite. i.e. they're more likely to make us all equally miserable, which in a weird way makes them the most democratic choice.

Wow thats some choice....taking away my preferred option(conservative) and then forcing me to choose between the lesser offending pieces of shit and on a Federal level.Given that choice I would vote Lieberal as there is now way on earth
I would want to see a Federal NDP government as their main platform is the LEAP manifesto and one of their key policies is wealth re-distribution.....as in take from the "have's" to give it to the "have not's".

I have said it before and I will say it again....Socialism is the philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy.It's inherant nature is the equal sharing of misery.....Sir Winston Churchill.

SR

 

[jgg]

So what is happening with China???

China is building it's case for Weng and Huawei and Canada's rule of law.

 

[storm rider]

China is laughing at our incredibly inept Trudeau govt.

With 2 Canadian citizens in jail in China and with one of them facing a death sentence I wonder how much that pussy wimp Trudeau now admires China's "basic dictatorship".

Canada has become a laughing stock under Trudeau and the SNC Lavalin fiasco changes by the day as Trudeau blabs more and more and changes his story yet at the same time Jody Wilson-Reybold is kept under a gag order.

This scandal is not going to be swept under the rug as the Lieberals wish.Pretty fucking pathetic to have a Justice Committee investigation when ALL of the most important people will not appear for questioning.....you just know Gerald Butts does not want to be put on the stand so to speak.

SR

 

[abkb12]

The way I look at it si

Liberals do not understand the real needs of Canadians
Conservatives think everyone is lazy
NDP want to spend
The rest have no clue

 

[storm rider]

Kind of surprised the resignation of Gerald Butts did not get it's own thread.He was the right hand man of Trudeau who actually convinced him to get into politics and has been pulling the threads and writing the script ever since.Every time Trudeau
has come off looking like a jackass idiot(India Trip and the peoplekind blunder as well as others) not to mention everytime Trudeau has acted with an air of entitlement(wont go into the details) it is because he went off the script written for him by Gerald Butts.

Glad to see this scumbag out of the sphere of influence.He is a POS that ran Ontairio into the ground under McGuinty/Wynne and is the guy behind the scenes that has been running Canada into the ground for the last 3 years.

SR

 

[CanineCowboy]

I guess the Conservatives' speculative outrage loses a whole lot of credibility with JWR meeting with cabinet and still part of Liberal caucus. Or despite his collapsed narrative is Andrew going to try and continue mansplaining his way through without any facts?

What I find more relevant and interesting is that the federal government once again finds itself tied to a horrible deal that the Conservatives signed. First, we find ourselves bound to continue sending armoured vehicles to the Saudis or risk paying them $1 billion in compensation and now we find that we can't ban Huawei from our 5G network without paying them hundreds of millions or possibly even billions of dollars because of an investment protection deal the Harper Conservatives signed with China. Apparently the deal makes Huawei elgible to receive compensation from taxpayers for all possible future profits being involved in the network would generate. On top of that our local telecoms could also sue the federal government for compensation if Huawei is banned.

Sure makes any of Trudeau's hiccups seem pretty inconsequential in comparison to the Conservatives' incompetence.

 

[nightswhisper]

This entire post is a testament to why democracy sucks.

 

[masterblaster]

This entire post is a testament to why democracy sucks.

I think it's preferable to a dictatorship such as North Korea.

 

[overdone]

This entire post is a testament to why democracy sucks.

it's exactly why is doesn't suck

you're allowed to spew your verbal diarrhea just like everyone else without fear of jail/death/beating, ect.....

or haven't you been paying attention to what has been happening in Saudia Arabia/Turkey/China/Venezuela/Russia, pretty much any ...stan country, lol

 

[overdone]

I guess the Conservatives' speculative outrage loses a whole lot of credibility with JWR meeting with cabinet and still part of Liberal caucus. Or despite his collapsed narrative is Andrew going to try and continue mansplaining his way through without any facts?

What I find more relevant and interesting is that the federal government once again finds itself tied to a horrible deal that the Conservatives signed. First, we find ourselves bound to continue sending armoured vehicles to the Saudis or risk paying them $1 billion in compensation and now we find that we can't ban Huawei from our 5G network without paying them hundreds of millions or possibly even billions of dollars because of an investment protection deal the Harper Conservatives signed with China. Apparently the deal makes Huawei elgible to receive compensation from taxpayers for all possible future profits being involved in the network would generate. On top of that our local telecoms could also sue the federal government for compensation if Huawei is banned.

Sure makes any of Trudeau's hiccups seem pretty inconsequential in comparison to the Conservatives' incompetence.

incompetence

they allowed SCN to lobby them to an extend beyond belief, 50 times, on a subject that has nothing to do with their business, “justice and law enforcement.”

Trudeau/all Liberals, have said nothing to see here

yet they put a law in place specifically for the corrupt Que company

http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/pr...-lavalin-inc-and-its-affiliates-for-ten-years



then wrote it so that it couldn't even apply to them

read this https://nationalpost.com/opinion/an...ldnt-even-have-been-talking-about-snc-lavalin

now look at the timeline

as has been reported

the decision was made by the prosecutor, then the meetings where Trudeau and Butts have already said they met with Raybould

what would there be to meet about? the decision was already made

the only reason to meet would be to meddle with the independent prosecutor

this goes to the very heart of being a democracy that is based upon the rule of law

hopefully the company will go down and Trudeau too

and we will never hear from either ever again

 

[overdone]

you want to save SCN

take the headquarters away from Que

give it to Calgary, they got plenty of office space for rent, lol

it's their culture in Que, plenty of examples over the yrs

or did we forget the sponsorship scandal already

or all the mayors being charged

or the construction corruption

 

[CanineCowboy]

incompetence

they allowed SCN to lobby them to an extend beyond belief, 50 times, on a subject that has nothing to do with their business, “justice and law enforcement.”

Trudeau/all Liberals, have said nothing to see here

yet they put a law in place specifically for the corrupt Que company

http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/pr...-lavalin-inc-and-its-affiliates-for-ten-years



then wrote it so that it couldn't even apply to them

read this https://nationalpost.com/opinion/an...ldnt-even-have-been-talking-about-snc-lavalin

now look at the timeline

as has been reported

the decision was made by the prosecutor, then the meetings where Trudeau and Butts have already said they met with Raybould

what would there be to meet about? the decision was already made

the only reason to meet would be to meddle with the independent prosecutor

this goes to the very heart of being a democracy that is based upon the rule of law

hopefully the company will go down and Trudeau too

and we will never hear from either ever again

Your source is a clearly labelled 'opinion piece' by Andrew Coyne which relies heavily on the language of 'if' and 'could' to pursue a speculative narrative. Keep to fact.

 

[storm rider]

incompetence

they allowed SCN to lobby them to an extend beyond belief, 50 times, on a subject that has nothing to do with their business, “justice and law enforcement.”

Trudeau/all Liberals, have said nothing to see here

yet they put a law in place specifically for the corrupt Que company

http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/pr...-lavalin-inc-and-its-affiliates-for-ten-years



then wrote it so that it couldn't even apply to them

read this https://nationalpost.com/opinion/an...ldnt-even-have-been-talking-about-snc-lavalin

now look at the timeline

as has been reported

the decision was made by the prosecutor, then the meetings where Trudeau and Butts have already said they met with Raybould

what would there be to meet about? the decision was already made

the only reason to meet would be to meddle with the independent prosecutor

this goes to the very heart of being a democracy that is based upon the rule of law

hopefully the company will go down and Trudeau too

and we will never hear from either ever again

You fuckin NAILED it Sir......glad to see a small percentage of Society is not drinking the Lieberal Kool-aid and hopefully a lot more people wake up from the matrix.

This scandal reeks of influence peddling as well as trying to protect a high value contributor to the Lieberal Party.In short JWB stood up for integrity in her capacity as Justice Minister and she got the "squeeze" put on her by Gerald Butts.When she said NO I am not backing down she got demoted.Then AFTER she got demoted the story broke and she shut up.After Trudeau ran his mouth off and said the story was "false" she quit cabinet.....then Gerald Butts resigned(wow I wonder if he was the one applying the preasure) and all along the way Trudeau has changed his tune.....from last Friday when he was verbally beating the shit out of JBR when she could not respond a political comic appeared with her and Trudeau in a boxing ring with JBR's hands tied and taped over the mouth in one corner and Trudeau win the other corner with his trainer saying "keep beating her up her hands are tied"....of course the Leftist media immediately attacked the political cartoonist as being "insensitive" towards violence against women as well as calling him "racist".....yeah what a fucking joke when he was in fact pointing out the fucking TRUTH.

Today the Lieberals shot down an Opposition motion for a Public Enquiry.....why shoot down the truth if you are INNOCENT?

The last Enquiry to Lieberal conduct was the Gomery Enquirey that found that the Lieberals under Chretien STOLE 250 MILLION from Canadian TAX PAYERS and gave it back to Lieberal CRONIES......dont want another fact finding thing like that.

What make it more disgusting and sleazy is the fact it is an act of a presiding Government to protect a wealthy huge donor to the Lieberal Party whilst attempting to TAMPER/CHANGE/INFLUENCE the Justice System in Canada's "RULE OF LAW" which Trudeau has so lauded about and given lip service to since the start of the Whawei scandal started up.

Nothing but a cover up and the Lieberals protecting their cronies.

SR