Oh man jesuschrist, you make my day! People who are arguing against our points of views definitely not thinking more. They totally forget about the victims' families on how hard to raise the victims so that the victims can do some good to the society and other people when they can, both economically and morally. jesuschrist, no one will challenge the constitution in Canada because of self benefits. Like Gordon Campbell said "when it comes to big issues, we can't move forward". The most emphasis is "we", not "i". This is why Canada depends on other countries to make money, instead of making money on its own; because there is no "we" in canada!
This is the right way to do Justice
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Well, Jesus - you and your dad have the opportunity to provide "justice" in the afterlife. In real life, "justice" is an ideal that can't be reached, because it would be administered by flawed people. I will take "Law," thank you very much. What we can do is campaign to tinker with "Law" where it produces injustice, and try to make it better. We can do that because we have a charter of rights enshrined in the law, which prevents law from being entirely enforced only by the whims of the powerful.
When you think of a way to codify the law so that it produces "justice," be sure to let us know.
What a sillier and sillier thread.
If Canada ever did go back to the death penalty, How many executions would we have a year????
Probably average less than one a year.
The top three reasons in this thread to change Canadian law is.
1. This yearly execution will save us each personally a large percent of our income taxes.
2. God/Jesus wishes this.
3. This is how they do it in China.
If Canada ever did go back to the death penalty, How many executions would we have a year????
Probably average less than one a year.
The top three reasons in this thread to change Canadian law is.
1. This yearly execution will save us each personally a large percent of our income taxes.
2. God/Jesus wishes this.
3. This is how they do it in China.
God didn't tell us anything of the sort. Some stone age shepards told us that.
Justice, the way I explained it, would not have executed David Milgaard. His intention was not evil, though he did murder. The right form of Justice would have executed Olsen because he is evil, what he did was only selfish, and he caused untold suffering for which he must recompense the families for with his life in order to begin restoring their dignity. There is no dignity when you have your child murdered and not even the government, which is suppose to protect you and represent your interests, will seek to honour the victim by allowing the murderer to live out his life.
Using abstractions such as "it's a mindset...", and "it's just as easy to lock people away...", etc., is an arrogant way to rule people. Our laws regarding this are sheer arrogance because it ignores the victim and their families.
Olsen was allowed visitors during his life in jail. Possibly loved ones such as his mother, kids, wife, etc., visited him. Meanwhile, the only visits the murdered children got was from their parents visiting their graves. The murdered child was not allowed the luxury of seeing his/her parents ever again. Nor were the parents ever allowed to hold their children or see their faces.
That is fair isn't it? That's the kind of justice we have and what you and the others like you believe in.
That is the problem of the police. They did not do a good job on what we call "thorough investigation". See how ironic the system is? It makes people to do a so-so job, not excellent job!
What you say is true about the justice in the afterlife. That is where true Justice exists, where one must come to full account of one's actions. In this world, everything we do will be flawed to different extents, and we can only try to improve on what we have. But since real justice is available in the afterlife, then let's deliver the evil ones to a higher court where they can be dealt with properly.
If you want "fair" wait until you get to heaven. This is real life, and it isn't "fair." Are you 14 years old, by any chance?
Then why don't we just kill everybody and let god sort it out?
AND THERE IS FRIGGIN' AFTERLIFE, so what I said is not true.
I think you ought to get your facts straight JC.
Milgaard was found guilty and sent to prison, later to be found innocent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Milgaard
Yes I know that, you needed to follow the thread instead of scanning it. We were talking about him hypothetically as a death penalty case (if that were to exist) as he was sent to prison.I think you ought to get your facts straight JC.
Milgaard was found guilty and sent to prison, later to be found innocent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Milgaard
You either have no sense of history on this subject or you are randomly using your own logic to advance your argument. I suspect its more a case of the latter.
When Milgaard was convicted there was a huge uproar and people were calling for the Death Penalty all over again. He was wrongfully convicted of rape and murder of a nursing student on a snowy Saskatoon street.
In case you don't get it, I highlighted your own words for the second time. Explain to me in your logic with a true sense of history to back up your words.
Well said.
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Exactly, thank you.
I am thinking that these are just a couple of trolls, and will stop replying.
