The way SP's should make their ads.

[take8easy]

Forgive me for starting a new thread a bit similar to the one started very recently about "Why don't SP's post their rates in the ads?"

It has always been a bit intriguing (and in some cases a bit frustrating) to me not to see some details listed in the ads.

Three or four lines praising your beauty, body and face followed by a phone number is not a good ad.

On the flip side, there are Poon Nazis (a la soup Nazi from Sienfeld). I want to read an ad not an essay or an instruction manual. There are at least three SP's who basically make ads that look like IKEA manuals.

I don't know about you guys, but when I read sentences like "read my ad carefully, specially section 3 (1), subsection a(1), in conjunction with details included in chapter 2 a and 3 c"........ I just roll my eyes and move on to the next one.

Who knows how they will react if you ask them something already listed, just to clarify!! I have never had to face that though. There is no need for an SP to act like soup Nazi. We men go thru dozens of ads. So if by mistake we miss a sub-clause of your detailed pre-phone call manual, please don't freak out. Seriously, there is a particular SP who sounds like a poon Nazi (a la soup Nazi) in her posted ad. She might try to be (overly) clear, but to me that comes across as an attitude.

IMO an ideal ad would be:

Photos - (Real and latest possible ones, pleaaasseee)
Personal Description - Four or five lines about herself.
Services provided - Should listed CLEARLY. (followed by rates for each service)
More clearly the services NOT provided.
Phone number
URL of a review, if there is one.
Warnings: Smoker/non-smoker, and VERY importantly PETS. We men love pussies but there are some who are allergic to certain kind of pussies.

Frankly, I would rather read a brief to the point ad with clear pictures and rates rather than trying to scroll up and down like it was a test of my comprehension skills.

That's just my opinion anyways. I am sure many of you have some pet peeves or suggestions for SP's. Oh yes, let us speak from a client's point of view. How WE want it.

T8E

 

[CyberJim]

Do SP's not subscribe to the 'the customer is always right' philosophy as far as the business side of things is concerned? ... and obviously anything that makes anyone uncomfortable or feel unsafe is never right.
There's a reason they are called 'service providers.' I don't think it's unreasonable to expect professionalism from people who charge for an hour what I make in a day - day an a half.
Also an accompanied shower would go a long way... increases intimacy and both parties know which parts are truly clean.

 

[take8easy]

I think these are good suggestions...
What you say is good common sense.

Can you go and tell that to my wife.

 

[morementum]

Best photos I have seen are the ones with someone holding a local paper with the date clearly visible. The way some use photos, not only would the paper's be from the 1980s, the locations would be anywhere but here.

I think your suggestions are strong. I also think you should add a line for those escorts who don't understand that the guy is paying for a set amount of time. Particularly here in Lower Mainland there seem to be a lot (and more at the higher prices ironically) that once you pop, they are assuming your time is up and to start getting you out the door. So a line in the advertisement confirming that paying for an hour means getting an hour (or whatever time is paid for) would be seemingly important as well.

 

[CyberJim]

Best photos I have seen are the ones with someone holding a local paper with the date clearly visible. The way some use photos, not only would the paper's be from the 1980s, the locations would be anywhere but here.

I think your suggestions are strong. I also think you should add a line for those escorts who don't understand that the guy is paying for a set amount of time. Particularly here in Lower Mainland there seem to be a lot (and more at the higher prices ironically) that once you pop, they are assuming your time is up and to start getting you out the door. So a line in the advertisement confirming that paying for an hour means getting an hour (or whatever time is paid for) would be seemingly important as well.

I now have 2 heroes here... Well suggested.

 

[take8easy]

Best photos I have seen are the ones with someone holding a local paper with the date clearly visible. The way some use photos, not only would the paper's be from the 1980s, the locations would be anywhere but here.

I think your suggestions are strong. I also think you should add a line for those escorts who don't understand that the guy is paying for a set amount of time. Particularly here in Lower Mainland there seem to be a lot (and more at the higher prices ironically) that once you pop, they are assuming your time is up and to start getting you out the door. So a line in the advertisement confirming that paying for an hour means getting an hour (or whatever time is paid for) would be seemingly important as well.

Yes, Morementum, YES,YES AND YES .................. I have had that done to me. Within less than a minute of me popping I heard lines like "I guess you have to get back to your work now?" or ... "So you are going home now?" or... "We still have time for you to shower quickly (with 20 minutes left on the f..king clock)".

Ideally, after popping, I want some time to cool off, to wind down, may be cuddle a bit (Who said men don't cuddle. Heck, I do, for 5 minutes, till I notice your mouth is dry and your breath smells bad, like mine lol )

Women!! when we pay you for an hour, we WANT an hour. I don't mind 58 minutes, but I don't expect to stay for 65 minutes, but I don't wanna be hinted to leave within 50 minutes.

Ginger, God, I love her, had a session with me for 1 hr and 20 mn. The funny thing is that I didn't even notice it. Do you think those extra 20 minute makes me feel any richer, or added to my sexual experience? NO, but it makes me wanna go to her again, and again. We don't want to go over our booked time, I don't for sure, but please don't start dropping hints to us that our time is going to be up.

 

[morementum]

Is this for real? When you get into the business then you can write ads.

Clearly, you don't seem to like the concept so why post several times about it? It is a great concept and the entire "business" would fall apart if the people providing the money for it decided to stop so those are the ones who should indicate how they best make their decisions. If this isn't for you, fine, but to ridicule the concept seems pretty lame as it most certainly is not a "ridiculous topic".

 

[vancity_cowboy]

Is this for real? When you get into the business then you can write ads.

i would say we ARE in the business... balls deep and right up to our wallet pockets!!

as a matter of fact, since we provide the consideration, we ARE the business... you provide the fun. just sayin'

 

[vancity_cowboy]

Glad you gave me the courage to go to my favourite restaurant and sit down with the chef to revise the menu to my liking. I am sure he will have no problems with that, considering I AM the business.

well, if you were a better cook than he was, i would expect it

many men here are in business, and as such they write ads, news releases, make presentations, bid on work and many other jobs that require crisp communication and top-shelf sales abilities. in other words, they KNOW how to sell a product

you would do well to stifle your ego for a second and read and listen to what they have to say

 

[rick hunter]

Glad you gave me the courage to go to my favourite restaurant and sit down with the chef to revise the menu to my liking. I am sure he will have no problems with that, considering I AM the business.

That is what happens to a lot of restaurants. If they raise prices or change the menu and people don't agree then people will stop going. Pretty common sense. Without customers, any business including sp's will shut it's door.

I don't care that you think you are Vanctiy hottest sp or has the most spankable bum.

Just list your stats, services offered/restrictions and rates. Look at the 9005 or the email only group ads for examples of how to write a short but concise ad.

 

[take8easy]

I really like feedback on my ad! If there is something in particular that attracted a client to me, I want to know. Nine times out of ten its not my pictures, although that will get them looking at it.
That being said, there are certain things that I just don't put in my ad anymore, because I found it brought on unwanted attention.
Many girls don't realize that your ad can really bring you quality clientelle! A website really helps a lot, too.

Now THAT is a smart thing. IMHO, ad means a lot. For two reasons, I don't want to call someone up and ask questions that can very easily be posted online.
Firstly, it is a wastage of both my and SP's time. Secondly, majority of the time, I have had to leave a vm. The SP may not call me back for a while or she may not call me back at all. I have been in both situations. What am I supposed to do in the meantime?

I would honestly like to see precise to the point ad and rest of the fancy stuff can be put on a website.

Nine times out of ten its not my pictures, although that will get them looking at it.

Julie, I would beg to differ on this point. Pictures do matter a lot. I dont know what percentage, but your face does count. So dear ladies, keep your pictures updated (unless you want to deceive us).

 

[take8easy]

I actually like some of the pointers here and have already taken into consideration while updating my website. Any successful business needs to get feedback from the customer to understand who they are and what there needs are. Focus groups are used all the time so a business can determine if they are appealing to the right audience. Nothing wrong with an SP hearing advice from their prospective clientele and using that to improve their business and marketing.

As for holding the newspaper, interesting concept, but considering you can just photoshop your photos, I wouldn't say it really means a lot.

Well, you are welcome, Eva Grace. I would be delighted if some SP's can use our suggestions.

Holding the newspaper looks kinda cheapish, but I guess the way business is conducted these days, atleast it can bring some credibility to an ad.

 

[PierreCoeur]

SP's wish they could control the way their clients do things. Clients wish they could control how SP's do things.

I wish I could control my urges, but I can't and end up booking SP's based on the photos they use in their advertisements - as for prices and services . . . I ask.

 

[PierreCoeur]

I really like feedback on my ad! If there is something in particular that attracted a client to me, I want to know. Nine times out of ten its not my pictures, although that will get them looking at it.
That being said, there are certain things that I just don't put in my ad anymore, because I found it brought on unwanted attention.
Many girls don't realize that your ad can really bring you quality clientelle! A website really helps a lot, too.

Obviously you don't use this name in your ads, so wondering now if your ads actually have gotten my attention.

 

[hornygandalf]

Although it doesn't apply to the ladies who are participating in this thread, I think a comment on ability to hold a conversation in English would be useful for many of the Asian ladies. Many of the reviews give some inkling of what to expect, but it would be nice to know in the advert.

 

[take8easy]

More guys need to just ask, instead of sounding like dumb asses over the phone

Wait a minute ... you mean they should ask you over the phone, instead of asking you over the phone (Which you referred to as sounding like dumb asses?). Sounds like it annoys you when they ask you over the phone, but you want them to ask you?

Contradictory, Dr Watson.

 

[take8easy]

Although it doesn't apply to the ladies who are participating in this thread, I think a comment on ability to hold a conversation in English would be useful for many of the Asian ladies. Many of the reviews give some inkling of what to expect, but it would be nice to know in the advert.

Very valid point. I had to encounter the language barrier a tad bit when seeing (my first and probably last) Asian SP.

But honestly, I don't think you will see anyone saying "limited knowledge of English". I can see an SP from visible minority clearly saying "Speaks Good English", but not the other way.

 

[take8easy]

I should have clarified, to READ the ad before calling. NOTE TO SELF: don't post threads until the coffee sinks inound:

Re: More guys need to just ask(she meant READ), instead of sounding like dumb asses over the phone.

May be I am in minority here or may be I look at things a bit too differently, but if I run a business and my clients wants to check and even double check, I wouldn't be as annoyed as some of the SP's seem to get. Wouldn't you rather have it clarified over the phone first?

The reason I think some guys ask you over the phone even though it is posted: 1. We men look at so many ads and then call. Many a times, a voice mail is left and SP then calls back.
Now, by the time we get a call back, it is not always easy to remember every word of the essay. We don't walk around with print outs of your ads. So if a guy makes a simple mistake of re-checking with you about certain service or certain fee, don't act like he has committed a contempt of court.

Some respected girls here make it sound almost like as if the client is expected to go over a manual and appear in an exam and get 100% score. What is the big deal if the guy asks you, again. He is spending almost a full day's pay and he wants to have a pleasant experience without any misconception causing a bitter taste in his and your mouth ( ).

There is a particular sp that I really wanted to see because of her age, looks and services but I didn't go to her because her ad sounds like Driving Test booklet. lol. I remember that's when the term "poon Nazi" came to my mind.

 

[take8easy]

this one?
.........................

hey LD, seems like the link you posted is nothing but a few dots ................... I wonder if the link got deleted (by Admin ).

 

[take8easy]

she was an Lady in Red here for a while until she had a meltdown

what ad, what link, how come I don't see anything !!!! ... come on .. give me a hint.. or .. pm me .. please ..