You were insulted by trackstar?Why would you go at all, given what you think of me? Why don't you post your insults on the open board next time
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The Economic Prostitution Crisis
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Oh, yes it does, I didn't realize that you had answered the questions in the reverse order. I agree with you about number 1 though, it's not an answer, just an opinion/forecast.
I don't think he was saying that at all. Sidewinder was just trying to make a joke, he does that sometimes
Are you being serious this time or sarcastic, Mr. Satirist?You were insulted by trackstar?
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Oh, I realized that too late, lol. I'll have to send him a fancy meal to make up for itI don't think he was saying that at all. Sidewinder was just trying to make a joke, he does that sometimes
Provided he can tear himself away from trying to get into your good books lol.A little of both - but mostly serious if he sent a insulting PM or some other improper response.Are you being serious this time or sarcastic, Mr. Satirist?
Don't sweat the petty things...
I'm not just in V's good books.
When we're together, we're in each other's heads as well as sharing a bed.
Unfortunately some people think that it's open season on SP's...that just because they hire out an intimate service that they are fair game for abuse both mental and physical. It always grieves and angers me whenever I see it.
Meanwhile the other side of that coin is that sometimes...something that begins as a paid-for scenario becomes something more.
Maybe it's only human nature after a certain amount of peace, tranquility, acceptance and great ecstasy are shared over time. Money can't buy that. It's not for sale.
But it goes without saying that some folks maybe will never understand or share those kinds of sentiments.
Because of ignorance or selfishness or an innate cruelty.
...and don't pet the sweaty things!Oh, I realized that too late, lol. I'll have to send him a fancy meal to make up for it
I'm not just in V's good books.
When we're together, we're in each other's heads as well as sharing a bed.
Unfortunately some people think that it's open season on SP's...that just because they hire out an intimate service that they are fair game for abuse both mental and physical. It always grieves and angers me whenever I see it.
Meanwhile the other side of that coin is that sometimes...something that begins as a paid-for scenario becomes something more.
Maybe it's only human nature after a certain amount of peace, tranquility, acceptance and great ecstasy are shared over time. Money can't buy that. It's not for sale.
But it goes without saying that some folks maybe will never understand or share those kinds of sentiments.
Because of ignorance or selfishness or an innate cruelty.
Yep, those who think the only bottom line is VFM or how much can be saved instead of just relaxing and having a good time. Nothing worse than a guy with a check list and a calculator lol.
Well, I`m glad to see that you gals have finally come around & see my point of view on this matter.
There may be many excuses but the truth remains that as this economy continues to go downhill there will be a rapidly declining client base from which you will be able to garner business.
At the same time there will be many new gals entering the biz as a supplement to their current income & a recourse for paying their bills.
These new gals will come into this market with little more than their price point to compete & market themselves.
As more & more dudes find themselves struggling to make ends meet & fear for the economic hardships in the future there will be a change in their spending habits.
The unfortunate thing is that as consumers stop spending as much in the marketplace there will be a continuously increasing amount of pressure toward downsizing & cutting jobs.
This of course makes those who still have their job begin to prioritize their spending toward the necessity side of the spectrum.
For the high priced gals you will always cater to the wealthy, but as bankruptcies continue to mount & especially the ones who are losing enormous sums out of their investments, even they will begin to reduce the frequency of booty calls per month.
Yes - this is gonna be one interesting roller coaster ride the next few years & I think all of us are gonna have to cinch the belt a bit more as time goes on.
Those gals who market themselves to match this economy will do well through it & I am sure they will establish an appreciative & loyal clientele.
Like I said in this thread:
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=852845#post852845
I say we all work together, help each other through these difficult times & make this a better place to be!
With Love & Affection -
your ever insightful & enormously endearing -
- Krustee
There may be many excuses but the truth remains that as this economy continues to go downhill there will be a rapidly declining client base from which you will be able to garner business.
At the same time there will be many new gals entering the biz as a supplement to their current income & a recourse for paying their bills.
These new gals will come into this market with little more than their price point to compete & market themselves.
As more & more dudes find themselves struggling to make ends meet & fear for the economic hardships in the future there will be a change in their spending habits.
The unfortunate thing is that as consumers stop spending as much in the marketplace there will be a continuously increasing amount of pressure toward downsizing & cutting jobs.
This of course makes those who still have their job begin to prioritize their spending toward the necessity side of the spectrum.
For the high priced gals you will always cater to the wealthy, but as bankruptcies continue to mount & especially the ones who are losing enormous sums out of their investments, even they will begin to reduce the frequency of booty calls per month.
Yes - this is gonna be one interesting roller coaster ride the next few years & I think all of us are gonna have to cinch the belt a bit more as time goes on.
Those gals who market themselves to match this economy will do well through it & I am sure they will establish an appreciative & loyal clientele.
Like I said in this thread:
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=852845#post852845
And this brings me to the conclusion of my response;
An escort can charge whatever she wants but let`s be honest with ourselves.
The money an escort gets comes from men & sometimes other women, who work hard for that money.
This is of course excluding the drug dealers & gang members who frequent & in some cases control this business.
The escort business & especially prostitution are not considered a legitimate business & operate on the fringes of legal commerce.
There is no educational requirements for becoming an escort.
There is a faction of this which does require training but that is in Japan & you would be called a Geisha.
I am certain that few here would have the intestinal fortitude to endure the life of a Geisha.
Nor are there many who even understand what one is.
This is an occupation that the ladies who are involved in either make by choice or out of servitude.
It is the oldest profession & it is & always will be considered illegitimate.
That is the context in which an escort must work.
There are inherent psychological impediments this line of work can impose upon the practitioner.
It takes a strong willed & unusually accepting psyche to do this type of provision for clients who are seeing you for a multitude of reasons but the one common denominator is intimacy.
I applaud those FEW who have mastered this field of work & who are professional providers of such a basic human need.
The reward of those who touch & heal those suffering from a lack of intimacy are that what they do is akin to a nurse caring for a sick patient.
They are like angels to our suffering society.
I abhor those who use this profession to take advantage of clients seeking intimacy yet care nothing for them other than to scheme a way to pilfer as much money as possible from them with the hope of not providing the service being advertised.
I will continue to be an advocate of the honest providers & ...
A ROYAL PAIN IN THE ASS TO THOSE SELFISH, INSINCERE RIP-OFF ARTISTS WHO FREQUENT THIS OCCUPATION!!!
Cheers
Your friendly neighbourhood Krustee.
I say we all work together, help each other through these difficult times & make this a better place to be!
With Love & Affection -
your ever insightful & enormously endearing -
- Krustee
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Haven't read all the post but no provider can escape declining bizness unless their wealthy cliental is immune from this crisis. Also, there are pooners who spend a dissportionate of their poon budget on SPs and not what I consider wealthy. I call them Designer wannabe's who are hooked on luxury and demand the best but their income level is ok. FYI Holt Renfrew cut 10% of staff and Gianco Ferre went bankrupt. So luxury brands are the 1st to to suffer but I guess sex & companionship is harder to wean off .
Beside from daily news, I'm beginning to hear anecdotal personal stories from friends of devastating wealth destruction as well as business failures on some of the "rich".
.Beside from daily news, I'm beginning to hear anecdotal personal stories from friends of devastating wealth destruction as well as business failures on some of the "rich".
Haven't read all the post but no provider can escape material declining bizness unless their wealthy cliental is immune from this crisis and I highly doubt this.
Also, there are pooners who spend a dissportionate of their poon budget on SPs. I call them Designer wannabe's who are hooked on luxury & want the best. They can afford it because they forgo spending on other things. These guys will cut back for fear of job loss.
FYI Holt Renfrew cut 10% of staff and Gianco Ferre went bankrupt. So luxury brands are the 1st to to suffer but I guess sex & companionship is harder to wean off .
Aside from daily news, I'm beginning to hear anecdotal personal stories from friends and aquaintances of devastating wealth destruction as well as business failures on some of the "rich".
It's all about Supply and Demand - More girls less clients= pricing pressure ......just like housing. Of course there will be always that exception - then conder yourself fortunate.
Also, there are pooners who spend a dissportionate of their poon budget on SPs. I call them Designer wannabe's who are hooked on luxury & want the best. They can afford it because they forgo spending on other things. These guys will cut back for fear of job loss.
FYI Holt Renfrew cut 10% of staff and Gianco Ferre went bankrupt. So luxury brands are the 1st to to suffer but I guess sex & companionship is harder to wean off
.Aside from daily news, I'm beginning to hear anecdotal personal stories from friends and aquaintances of devastating wealth destruction as well as business failures on some of the "rich".
It's all about Supply and Demand - More girls less clients= pricing pressure ......just like housing
. Of course there will be always that exception - then conder yourself fortunate.
LOL, I don't think it's gotten to that point yet but it's starting to look like it may. I don't think government can manage to keep us all employed indefinitely even though they are doing their best on both sides of the border.
Prostitution is the oldest profession and it will survive, but it will be effected without a doubt.
There simply is no such thing.
Prostitution has survived every ebb and flow known to society since long before recorded history.
People who suggest this sort of thing are guilty of looking at a tiny set of individual prostitutes and allowing them to represent the entirety of one of the most populous professions.
On occasion there may be one random prostitute whose life is in crisis, usually put there by her own hand and choices. This relates only to that individual and certainly not to "prostitution" as a whole.
The fact remains that prostitution now and into the future is thriving like never before. Today it is almost simple for a newly-turned-18-year-old to peddle her wares somewhat stealthfully and easily since the advent of Craigslist.
Each time one of your crisis-impacted 34-year-olds decides to "retire" from the business there are perhaps ten or more new 18- or 19-year-olds perfectly willing to take her place.
Out with the old and in with the new in the world's oldest (crisis-free) profession.
I see your point SSRSP but what you seem to not factor in is the fact that with more new gals entering the biz & few leaving it just creates more feeding from the same trough of potential clients.
With the number of clients available not increasing but most likely decreasing due to the economy it would seem to me that the situation would be further exacerbated for SP's.
So lets assume that in 2006-2007 we had 50,000 active pooners in the city.
Lets also assume that there were 5000 active SP's.
That is a 10:1 ratio of pooners to SP's.
What happens when the number of new SP's increases to 6000 & the active pooners decreases to 40,000?
This is a 20% increase in SP's & a 20% decrease in pooners.
The ratio of pooners to SP's is now at a ratio of 6.67:1
I would assume that would make an impact on business across the board?
The being insulated my be true now but I do not see it lasting.
Already the HST looms on the horizon & with it an increase in the cost of living.
Do you really think that the HST will boost the frequency of pooning?
I agree that the wealthy will continue to do whatever they please but those of us making less than $100k per year are in for some difficult times.
I would agree that there are some pretty good providers here but you get a lot more mileage in Montreal & Ontario than you do here.
Dude - CraigsList is literally exploding with new listings!!
I have NEVER seen so many gals peddling their wares before!
This biz is getting watered down like never before.
Just take a look at how many new SP's are advertising here on Perb now & you will see the evidence.
I may have to adjust my ratio's above to account for all the new gals entering or returning to "the oldest profession in the world".
As for demand outpacing supply - I highly doubt that & I predict at least a 15% drop in the average per hour rate for SP's as competition for those few remaining pooners becomes more aggressive.
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