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AA_Train

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YAYYYY IT'S MY 100TH POST AND IT IS A DOOZY!!!!!! This may go down as one of the rants of the year and may put me into some hot water but fuck it!!! Read it don't read, I don't care, I gotta get this off my chest.

I've lived in the Metro Vancouver area for 20 years. I've seen a lot change over that time. Many have said this is one of if not the most beautiful places in the world and for a time I would say that was true for a time. Now, I want to be anywhere else but here.

During the last seven years I have seen this once proud and beautiful metrpolis turn into just another lousy big North American city, right up there with such hell holes as Detroit and Cincinnati. (apologies to anyone from there, it's not the people just the area itself anfd its governing body). It has become a no fun city and province for that matter run by a bunch of people who are more concerned with feeding their image and pocketbooks than feeding the homeless. We are run by Nazis boys and girls which is weird because I thought this Vancouver 2008, not Berlin 1941. They're telling us what to eat, where we can smoke, what and how much we can drive. They make all these laws to "improve" this city/province yet make conditions that make it increasingly hard to follow them. These are governments that are run like businesses and in truth don't give a shit about its citizenry. They want us to take transit but they hike rates. They want skilled tradespeople but make it too expensive to get an education. They want people to take transit but allow real estate prices to get so high, people are forced to move to the valley in order to afford a house. Go ahead Mr. Campbell , take transit in from Abbotsford to Vancouver, I dare ya. I doubt you'd ever do it again. Then there's ICBC, rising gas prices I could go on and on.

We have justice system that serves criminals and not the victim. I really feel for that guy who got attacked with an axe. In 7 years the guy who put him in a wheelchair is back on the street. If it was me, I'd take any moonies won in a civil suit and pay someone to whack him when he gets out. If some motherfucker attacks me with an axe, he'd better put me 6 feet under or I will make sure he suffer till his last.

Now here's where it gets sticky. I've noticed that some oh well let's call them eastern asian cultures that are rather dominant in the region are trying to co-op this city and turn it into whatever country they are from. Let me give you an example.

I know a few meter readers and one of them had to read some meters in Chinatown. At one place, he was lead into the electrical room which was full rats and their accompying feces as well as maggotts , spiders etc. He flat out refused to go in there to read the meter and told the landlord of the building to clean it up or he wouldn't get his power turned back on. The landlord replied "It's Chinatown, what do you expect?" Now I don't know about you, but I don't think anybody, no mateer where they're from, should put up with that, certainly not in Canada anyway. In China, well that's up for the chinese to determine, but that's not how we do things here in Canada.

My point is that because of the policies regarding multiculturalism, this is allowed to go on. I don't care where your from and where you're moving to, you have to adjust yourself and your communities culture to the region in order to survive. If you come to Canada, learn the language, follow the laws, respect the customs. I can't go to New Dehli and walk down the street munching a hamburger because that's not going to jive with Hindu culture so why are sikhs allowed to ride bicycles without helmets? Because of their religion? It's a safety issue and I don';t t hink taxpayers should pay for you when you're in a coma because you deemed your religion more important than your brain. To me it seem they have a choice, take off the turban, get a helmet that accomodates both or don't ride a bike. We're not saying you can't ride a bike, but you have to do it within the laws and of the country you live in. Just as if I was to go to India, I would probably have to make different choices in my diet. Countries have laws and customs. If you can't intergrate them into your day to day life them immigrate somewhere else. There are lots of countries to choose from. And that applies to everyone not just here but around the world myself included. Respect the culture of the country you're in and change your day to day life accordingly.

This is the shit that I and everybody else has to put up with every day and it's just not right. And as much as I want to be a part of the solution I know I am part of the problem. I've been too consumed with myself to look up and actual see what's going on outside of my pitiful little world and we're all guilty of it too.Modern life and its conditions have made me weak and slow compared to how I once was. Sure pooning is fun but should be a spice in our lives, not our sustinence and I don't know about you but I want my children where people respect each other and work toward common goals. People who help the downtrodden and resist tyranny. A place where education and understanding are conerstones and people achieve based on merit, not privlidge.

Next up my solutions to help our current state
 

dipitydoo

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just a quick question... speaking of modern society: do you know your neighbours' name?

It's amazing how many people have never met their neighbours, let alone talk to them or know who they are.


I hear you... I have also noticed this city turn to shit compared to what it was even just 12 years ago.
 

AA_Train

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Cures for the disease

1.Get the government's attention. The most effective way to do so peacefully would be a general strike and shut down the province for a day.

2. Stricter policies regarding immigration. This would create better cultural unity as you would have people who want to be canadians but it would probably also keep out criminals and terrorists as well

3. Reduce transit fares back to $2.25. I think this is fair as it will somewhat lessen the financial burden for those who rely on transit and still give translink the funds to increase service. I don't mind paying extra for a service if it is solid and efficient. Our current ransit system is neither.

4. Real Estate price controls This will encourage people to move into urban areas and in turn will encourage people to use transit as they will be in areas more accessible to it

5. Tuition freeze and even reductions $3000 a semester is too much. Make education more accessible and people will go

6. Smaller government. When the Liberals assumes power in 2001 they created the largest government in the history of the province. Reduce it and put the money towards health and education

7. Promote healthy lifestyles. In Surrey schools, they've taken out baked goods as a lunchtime food and have cancelled hot lunch programs as it is deemed unhealthy. But, if these kids were encouraged to get off their asses and shown the effects of obesity, maybe they would put down the fork and pick up a hockey stick. again, a response to the whole nazi thing

These arej ust a few. I encourage others to present solutions as well.
 

AA_Train

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just a quick question... speaking of modern society: do you know your neighbours' name?

It's amazing how many people have never met their neighbours, let alone talk to them or know who they are.


I hear you... I have also noticed this city turn to shit compared to what it was even just 12 years ago.
My neighbour's name is Jason and while he is east indian ( I live in Surrey go figure) he agrees with me as do my landlord who are also east indian but moved here from britain and agree with me 100 per cent.
 

AA_Train

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I hear you too, until you turn this into some racist white power KKK bullshit. If it wasn't for us immigrants, your economy would still be like back in the 90s, homelessness would probably be worst than it is now. At the same time, I don't believe in this multiculturism thing, especially in the West Coast, where we live in our own little ghettos. Toronto is pretty multicultural, and harmonious. These liberals are facists, they want economic prosperity, thats why they allow so many of these students and immigrants coming in without controlling the quality of the people.


It's your Canadian education system that is flawed, all you white people are fucking Hypocrates, back in Highschool, I believed in all these multiculturism bullshit, then when I got in to the workforce, I get discriminated against. Just because I am Honger. Hey you live here 20 years, its your Canadian government, choose some other Socialist ass party, I bet its the same shit. If you don't like the Metro, move to Vancouver island or some other hick town. Thats what I plan to do.

Putting more $$ in health= more immigrants wanting to come to BC and use up all our benefits, whats the point?
I'm not against immigration at all and I am by no means racist. I have several friends that are chinese, indonesian all colours of the rainbow. My point regarding that is this. Multiculturalism splinters people and doesn't unite them. I want other peoples to be allowed to maintain a part of their culture. BUt they need to adjust to life in Canada and not recreate what they had back home. If where they lived was so great, why didn't they stay? Obviously there was something about Canada they liked and figured it would be a good place to live. Immigrants no matter where they come from or going to have to adjust to wherever they're going and in order to get a better life and may need to sacrifice a bit of their old identity for a new one. The mosaic that is Canada doesn't work and the melting pot of the US doesn't work. It has to be a combination of both
 

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Vancouver sucks!

I plan to move in the future...I personally think the city is a shithole!
 

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You neglected to mention the welfare system. Most of the drug addicts in the downtown eastside are on welfare...most of the slum lords where these people live are from offshore....and very rich.

Trust me I know..my sister is a drug addict and on welfare - its a great deal...The government should be jailed for life - the welfare system keeps these addicts trapped in the system, and welfare doesn't say boo about getting her cleaned up and off the system.
 

Vancouver Sara

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Vancouver has been rated one of the best cities in the world for a reason.

So often I hear from locals that it 'isn't what it used to be', and that things are so much worse than they were 10-20 years ago, etc etc. Of course things are different now - change is part of life and it brings with it both good and bad.

You're blessed to live in such a wonderful city. There are positive and negative aspects to living anywhere. If you can help make a change for the better, then great - do it. If you can't - then why waste your energy worrying about it?
Think about all the things you do love about living here.
 

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What fix?

Every body is so busy complaining that they don't have time to want to help fix the problem..In fact the problems with society have got us so wrapped up in them that we just are part of the problem.
The suggestion on the to do list.. all may be great ideas .. but try to get a dozen or more everyday working people to have the time to work on getting that organized.. The only ones that can do that .. is the professional protester.. and only if it fits their agenda.. or they don't think it can be done.
I will give you one suggestion.. For all those that have government jobs .. take a good look at your self . Stop being part of the problem .. one of those buricratic asses that don't do their job . and clogs up the works .. get off your ass . insist that your fellow works do the best they can .. and serve the people that are paying your salary
 

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This is propaganda promoted by the Vancouver Tourism, Vancouver Real Estate, and other forms of media.

Vancouver is a city for the upper-class.

People who defend Vancouver have a lot of $$$$$$$ in their bank account and they are so out of touch with the average person.
This is so true. Vancouver is a pleasent city to look at and thats it! The quality of life here is great if you can afford it.
 

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Sara City

Vancouver has been rated one of the best cities in the world for a reason...You're blessed to live in such a wonderful city. There are positive and negative aspects to living anywhere. If you can help make a change for the better, then great - do it. If you can't - then why waste your energy worrying about it?
Think about all the things you do love about living here.
Gotta agree with Sara here.
I never anticipated that my life would be lived in large urban areas (grew up in a small town) and have experienced many as my career developed. Vancouver, in spite of the changes that have occurred since moving here 30 yrs ago is still the best urban environment around.
 

Aerts

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This is propaganda promoted by the Vancouver Tourism, Vancouver Real Estate, and other forms of media.

Vancouver is a city for the upper-class.

People who defend Vancouver have a lot of $$$$$$$ in their bank account and they are so out of touch with the average person.
You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it.
 

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We are run by Nazis boys and girls which is weird because I thought this Vancouver 2008, not Berlin 1941

You have no idea what a Nazi was.

They want people to take transit but allow real estate prices to get so high

You're not familiar with the concept of market economics.
The prices are high because everyone in the country wants to live here. Basic supply and demand.
Should the government put a limit on how much a house should sell for? That's an absurd concept. From someone who can't stand having 'them' dictate what he can eat, where he can smoke...


My point is that because of the policies regarding multiculturalism, this is allowed to go on.


Don't blame multiculturism for people who don't give a shit about safety or having no standards. Multiculturism isn't responsible for exploitation.

I can't go to New Dehli and walk down the street munching a hamburger

Not all Indians are Hindus. Sikhs that wear turbans are not the same as Hindus.
People in India do eat beef. Just not the majority.

This is the shit that I and everybody else has to put up with every day

You have to put up with people that have different values from you? How shocking, and how inconsiderate of them!

I do agree that our transit system is inefficient.
I do agree that our 'Justice' system needs to be overhauled.
 

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I wonder how Vancouver would look and feel like if the hugh Asian influence wasnt here? How much less would housing be and all you white guys that love to poon on the yellow ladies where would you go now? Come on its gave and take just everything in life.
 
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AA_Train,

you have a bad temper and a bad attitude and want everything your ways.

The world is not what you want it to be like. There are always people that will piss you off so stay cool and calm and just live on. There are always good/bad immigrants around as well.

And about riding the bike without a helmet is their want (freedom). Enforce the law by fining a ticket. That is not your problems. Why do you have a problem with that. You are just nosy into other people's business.

Trust me, most of the times I don't wear a seatbelt and its because I feel like it. Just didn't get caught so it feels good without wearing one.

Most of the time, I don't speak English is because I feel like it.

There are people in different races in different countrys. Don't believe me. Go to China, HK, Vietnam, Singapore, Africa, everywhere and you see white, black, brown, yellow guys everywhere in EVERY YEAR of the DAY. And they live together calling muliticultures as well.

Change your attitude and your temper man. Don't think just because immigrants came here, they are rich instantly by the government of canada which is just bullshit. They paid a price, and will continue paying that price until their death . (tax, tax, tax) OR they get benefits which is what? WELFARE? You think its easy to apply for welfare or another other benfits. Health Care is pay by the RESIDENTS of CANADA, not 100% canadian tax dollars so you don't need to be selfish about thinking your tax dolllars going into paying for immigrants.

If you want to save the government moneys , lets just cut health care to make you happy. Lets vote to cut health care welfare to make our government rich.


The good thing about Canada is just the FREEDOM that it offers. Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Speech, (no need to speak english), I don't see white guy speaking viet in vietnam, and no body care what they speak, so why do you care.
 

LonelyGhost

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I moved out of Van long ago to get away from the bleepin
immigrants and now they are flying them in by the plane load
to this little community!

1. the dumbass immigrants can't drive a car!
2. they can drive up the bleepin house prices!
3. they have strange political beliefs
4. even weirder religions
5. look weird too!

Goddam ... wish they would all go back to Alberta!

Freakin redneck immigrants!

Stay in Edmonton you pick-up driving, house whoring, rightwing,
born-again pasty face fat asses!

PS: spandex doesn't make your south-40+ ass look any smaller
because your pinhead makes even Paris Hiltons ass look big!

There, rant over!
 

Ghostwheel1969

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I'd rather be here than from whence I came: Toronto.
 

Akitasam

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Toronto had the same problems that Vancouver is having now, it was 20 years ago. Rapid growth. It takes a while for a city to grow with the demand for housing and infrastructure. I know Toronto is cleaner today then it was back then pollution wise. Vancouver will be the same. You have to let the cycle do its thing. Its the people that make the city not the government. We just have to get the right people in to control growth and everything that comes with it. Canada is a great place to live if you have a decent income, if you dont it can be pretty tough.


One comment:

I'd rather be here than from whence I came: Toronto.
 

AA_Train

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Allow me to retort

OK people are probably painting me with a racist brush and I assure I am not. My point in my rant may not have been very clear as it was a rant. If you still think of me as prejudice or racist or a redneck so be it. I think most people on here are a few bananas short of a bunch but we're all entitled to have our own opinion ; so be it.

I believe in equality. I bellieve that in Canada everybody no matter where they are from should be held to the same standard. In the eyes of the law everybody is equal and no special treatment should be given. I used the turban/ bike helmet example because if I was caught without my bike helmet I would get a ticket but a sikh man would not. We're not trying to get their turban off, it's an issue of health and safety. Heck, there's probably a market for helmets that could accomodate turbans. Like I said, they can still where turbans that's cool, but they have to wear a helmet of some kind of head protection. That's them adjusting to Canada yet keeping who they are. Their religion should create no exception, nor should mine or anyone elses.

Why I think multiculturalism is a joke is because while it "celebrates "differences, it also higlights them and splinters different people instead of uniting them under the one banner that is Canada. I don't like the term Indo-Canadian or German Canadian. It should just be Canadianwith Indian descent. I don't even think they should have Croatian cultural centres and Sikh cultural centres. They should have just one cultural centre with wings devouted to each different ethnicity in the community. The route words of community are "Common" and "Unity". Multiculturalism highlights differences too much. We should be focused on what all makes us the same. Hence why I call for a multicultural/melting pot hybrid when it comes to our immigration policy.

Jack you obviously didn't read my rant and subsequent solutions. I didn't say cut welfare or health care, I said cut the government. Make it smaller more efficient. A few people will lose their jobs which sucks but he money saved can go to healthcare education and programs that will help immigrants get started in Canada. Also, I think its BS that professinal licences from other countries aren't honoured here. They should make these professinals take a test to prove the compatibility of their training with our standars, get references and look at training programs in other countries and allow people to work in their chosen field instead of making them start over.

And Ray yes it does seem a little hypocritical to ask for government intervention on housing prices while I complain about them passing legislation regarding smoking and diet ut the problem with free market economics is that ultimately, it destroys the middle class, which as any economist knows, is the backbone of any nations economy because they are the consumer class. Make it difficultto consume, economies will fall (look at the US). It's just a case of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. Again splintering society.

ONe more note. I have friends from all different ethnic and financial bgackgrounds. We usually all get together for a barbecue in the summer at a friends house. This family is dutch Indonesian and the heads of the household came here with not alot of money and knew very little english. They worked hard, found work, adjusted to Canadian life and have raised three children who I all consider my dear friends. If one were to g oto this barbecue, you would think you walked into the fucking United Nations. There's People with Sikh, Hindu, German, Dutch, Italian and other ethnic and religious backgrounds. And while the Hindu people may not be too crazy that we're eating cow, they accept it as a part of Canadian life. They have adjusted and know that they may have to sacrifice a bit of their pride and beliefs in order to have other freedoms and be a part of a community. Being a part of a community is about working together towards a common goal, in this case, to have a bitchin' BBQ. That was the pint of this thread. Too look at problems, at least ones that I saw, that splinter this region and this province, and call for people to come together and improve everybodys, not just my own life.

Agree or disagree, it's up to you.
 

visiting

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right behind you!
Until we get to the very basic thing it takes to make a good society... caring for everyone we pass on the street... our society will crumble. Changing our consumerist culture is going to take a lot of enlightenment and love.

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