"Terasen Gas" Grand Assholes of BC

[georgebushmoron]

My fucking gas bill for December was over $300! You pay late on one invoice, and they send it immediately to their "collections" department (unlike every other company that waits 2 or 3 invoices, ie: BC Hydro, Rogers Cable, etc.). Company profits for these assfucks are soaring.

Now for you "less government" "free market" types who think that government intervention in the economy is bad and want to pay less taxes by shrinking the government, this is exactly what happens when government is too small and abdicates responsibility for what ought to be public resource into private hands... we have a fucking corporate monopoly over a public resource... we pay top dollar to a private company for a resource that is comes out of BC lands which is technically owned by citizens. What are we doing paying a private corporation for our own resources??? Why are we funding their profits??? We are being taxed by a private corporation!!!! And the difference is that the tax never comes back to us because it is not the government, which at least has some accountability to its electorate.

Last I heard, a US company bought Terasen. So now BC taxpayers are being taxed for a public resource by funding the profits of a US company. Way to go, stupid free-market-less-government bone-heads!

 

[Quarter Mile'r]

Just another reason why I have never, nor will I ever vote Liberal !!


............QM'r

P.S. I put in a woodstove and my bill has already dropped by 20%.

That's for usage, not for cost of gas.

 

[henryhill]

terasen gas

And those goddam commercials with the lobster are pure horseshit!!

 

[butter]

Small efficient government

The problem isn't that the government it too small. The problem is that the people running the country/province are incompetent at best or self-serving/corrupt at worst. Easily replaced with half as many skilled people.

The intelligence of a creature decreases with inverse proportion to the number of heads it has.

 

[georgebushmoron]

The problem isn't that the government it too small. The problem is that the people running the country/province are incompetent at best or self-serving/corrupt at worst. Easily replaced with half as many skilled people.

The intelligence of a creature decreases with inverse proportion to the number of heads it has.

Usually government workers are lazy and stupid, it is true. It is largely because they are unionized. So the government should break the backs of the unions and then the civil servants will become efficient because they would be treated much the same way as they would if employed in private industry. Other than the unions, there is nothing inherent in government that makes it less efficient than a private run company. When the employees fear for their jobs, they work better.

If the government has no will to break the union, then simply outsource the work to private (domestic) companies. Don't outsource the entire fucking industry, as they did with Terasen. Outsourcing the industry means that profits made from the sale of a natural resource do not go back into the hands of the public. As the situation now stands, profits from BC gas go into American hands, and the BC taxpayer is the one who is funding them. Does that make sense?

And since you stated that somehow private companies are run more efficiently than government, then please tell us why Terasen charges you an arm and leg for a cheap resource, and why they can't seem to work after 2pm. The problem is that these jerks have been handed a monopoly by the Liberals.... it's like giving a private company a blank check to be paid by the taxpayer.

 

[CJ Tylers]

Usually government workers are lazy and stupid, it is true. It is largely because they are unionized.

I resent this. They are lazy, stupid and over paid because that's the kind of people they are and they are in a position of power to get away with it. It has nothing to do with being in a union or not... remember... Gordy just rips up any collective agreements he doesn't feel like abiding by, while literally tossing millions into the hands of friends and doctors alike...just because he feels like it.

The BS people have going about unions is nonsense... I've worked both & let me tell you, there are just as many dog fuckers and whatnot working nonunion as union. It just means that in the non union job, they have to suck up to the boss and get other people fired

 

[HankQuinlan]

ALL big corporations, governments included, union or non-union, have a built-in waste factor. It is much better that the profits of our natural resources go back to us than to some greedy corporate fucks -- Terasen is in the hands of one of the worst of these.

They are still planning to sell BC Hydro to some similar fucks. I own a piece of it now as a citizen --- soon a scrawl of a pen will give it all to somebody else from the US.

 

[georgebushmoron]

I'm confused....are you grizzed because you're a deadbeat and they want their money or because you think you're paying too much for a regulated market based commodity?

Frankly, no I am not a deadbeat, I've been paying Terasen their gas money for nearly 2 years now. I was late last time for only a week - and immediately your account goes to "collections". If you don't believe me, call them and find out their cutthroat policy yourself. I'm pissed off because of the price of gas - the price set entirely by Terasen. And no, it's not market regulated because its a MONOPOLY. Why the fuck should a home owner (of a modest home) have to pay over $300 for a month of gas? You call that regulated? That's called rip off. Gas, my friend, is very very cheap.

 

[georgebushmoron]

ALL big corporations, governments included, union or non-union, have a built-in waste factor. It is much better that the profits of our natural resources go back to us than to some greedy corporate fucks -- Terasen is in the hands of one of the worst of these.

They are still planning to sell BC Hydro to some similar fucks. I own a piece of it now as a citizen --- soon a scrawl of a pen will give it all to somebody else from the US.

Damn rights HQ! You can blame those imbeciles who keep parroting the "smaller government" mantra for government's abdicating of responsibility for public resources to greedy private companies. In the name of "efficiency"... what a crock of shit. Never should efficiency mean you hand it all to a private monopoly, the total inverse of efficiency.

 

[Maury Beniowski]

Get your life in order, GBM.

You're a week late, sure, but you got the damn bill at least three weeks before payment was due.

Sorry, no sympathy here.

You know what to do from now on!

I'm sure you would expect due diligence if the shoe was on the other foot.

 

[georgebushmoron]

Get your life in order, GBM.

You're a week late, sure, but you got the damn bill at least three weeks before payment was due.

Sorry, no sympathy here.

You know what to do from now on!

I'm sure you would expect due diligence if the shoe was on the other foot.

I'm not complaining about getting a bill... I'm complaining about the extreme high cost of gas and also about being referred into a "bad account" just because I was late once in a 24 month period. $310 for one month of gas???? That's fucking crazy.

 

[Randy Whorewald]

Turn the heat down!

GBM - I think you had better turn down the thermostat.

 

[metoo113]

GBM - I think you had better turn down the thermostat.

Yeah, I'm on electric heat and my total bill for two months wasn't close to $300.

Actually Terasen charges you what they pay for the gas. They make their profit off the delivery charge. The price they charge you is the commodity price for the product. Supply and demand.

 

[tao]

I'm pissed off because of the price of gas - the price set entirely by Terasen. And no, it's not market regulated because its a MONOPOLY. Why the fuck should a home owner (of a modest home) have to pay over $300 for a month of gas? You call that regulated? That's called rip off. Gas, my friend, is very very cheap.

wow ... this statement is so wrong.

Terasen does not set the price of natural gas on the open market. Canada and the US, comprise a single market. This means that any changes in production, distribution or demand in one region will affect other regions. ie: hurricane Katrina affected the entire market, a cold snap in one region will affect prices continent wide.

Terasen purchases the gas you use on the open the market. Terasen charges residential customers, what they had to pay for the gas, WITHOUT MARKUP.

Transportation costs apply to interprovincial and international transportation of gas and are regulated by the federal government.

Distribution costs are the costs of taking the gas from the interprovincial / international pipelines and delivering it to the users. These costs are regulated by the provincial government.

Finally, gas is not cheap. Just like oil, there are exploration, extraction, production and distribution costs associated with natural gas.

 

[smackyo]

Just another reason why I have never, nor will I ever vote Liberal !!


............QM'r

P.S. I put in a woodstove and my bill has already dropped by 20%.

That's for usage, not for cost of gas.

lol, yes thats right its all the liberals fault. aren't the conservatives the ones championing smaller government?

 

[georgebushmoron]

Terasen does not set the price of natural gas on the open market.

I never said they set the price for the open market.... I said they set the (retail) price for BC, where they have a monopoly. Of course they don't set the price for the entire market of North America.

Terasen purchases the gas you use on the open the market. Terasen charges residential customers, what they had to pay for the gas, WITHOUT MARKUP.

What's your reference? I'd love to know they don't mark up from cost to them.

Finally, gas is not cheap. Just like oil, there are exploration, extraction, production and distribution costs associated with natural gas.

Gas is very cheap compared to oil. Of all the petrochemicals used for homes/cars, it's the cheapest even compared to diesel. I believe it became expensive for me because I moved to BC and BC chose to let Terasen have a monopoly.

 

[Maury Beniowski]

Tao is right. If you read the newsletters Terasen sends you, you'll learn that they pass on the price of gas to the consumer without any markup. So the cost of gas you pay "is" the market price. Terasen then tacks on a charge for the delivery of this commodity, and this charge is regulated by a provincial watchdog.

That "higher-than-normal" $300 you are paying is because you are in a peak consumption period, namely winter. That rate will drop significantly as the weather warms up towards summer. Don't forget, this has been one of the mildest winters on record, so even now you are paying less than you would otherwise. Call Terasen and ask them to put you on an equal payment plan, whose rate will be calculated based either on a twelve month period, if you've been a client that long, or base it on the previous owner or tenant's consumption charges.

And furthermore, pay your frickin' bill on time next month...

 

[HankQuinlan]

BC Liberals ARE conservatives.

lol, yes thats right its all the liberals fault. aren't the conservatives the ones championing smaller government?

You misunderstood the reference to BC's Liberal government, currently selling off our natural resources.

 

[Gentleman First]

I have both gas and electric heat sources in my place.

I use 99% electricity.
I can heat for about 50% the cost using electric as i can gas.
the only gas heat is the gas fireplace i have on when i am actually there sitting in front of it as i like the atmosphere and ambiance of it.
Other wise i heat exclusivley with electric baseboard heaters.
terassen can kiss my ass the fucking robbing thieves.

 

[Random]

I think I’ll use my Alberta prosperity cheque to cover my gas bills for the next 6 months or so