Taylor Hawkins dead at 50
- Thread starter badbadboy
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Sad news - he was way too young. 50 is too young to go.
FYI - sorry to inform you, Ginger Baker passed in 2019 (Oct. I think), and Neil Peart passed in January 2020.
RIP to those talented beat keepers.
I fumbled my reply without a quick check. I was trying to indicate the Taylor would be in the same club as Baker, Peart et Al.
Still he was a great drummer with a lot of energy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Hawkins
I wouldn't say he was an up and coming drummer. As the drummer for Foo Fighters, I think he had already "made it".
Yes it too bad he died, but he made the choice to do drugs, which is what killed him... People can get all sentimental about how short his life was. But he ended it with drugs. His choice. By doing drugs and his addiction, he died from drugs; and so I cannot think why people think he is such a hero!!! Wrong message to send.
Yes people will want to remember him in a good light. But our society has had too many artistic heroes die from "drug overdoses"'; that it is normal now for people to reflect on the better part of his life, not what ended it.
The bigger problem is the amount of drug deaths from bad drugs, being mixed by amateurs...Trying to make better profits. Cutting in fentanyl and other bad shit. Or maybe (diabolically) it might be on purpose; who knows?
Our societies response: Give them free injection clinics, call it a disease, Give them free drugs, Hand out free Naloxone kits, Revive these dumb fucks as many times as needed. Because saving lives is the motto of the day.
Just like criminals, the drug addicts overdosing should be given 3 strikes and on the 4th overdose, the paramedics should no longer resuscitate the overdosed idiots. Society should never enforce "social rules" on the rest of society: all in the name of political correctness or popular belief. Our society has deemed that we as a society have to save people who are dying (cause its most ethical to do so).... But the overdose idiot from drugs, the first time might be a accident; by the 4th time we know this person wants to end his/her/it life.
So let them. Its harsh, but we all have to try to be good little Samarians, and try to save lives, because society says its the right thing to do.
"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me is a proverb that means if someone takes advantage of me twice, I only have myself to blame. Once someone has shown themselves untrustworthy, you should not be surprised when they betray you again."
Apparently we as a society has been fooled more than twice, due to all those artists' deaths due to overdose...
Quite a revealing post as to your total lack of understanding of the realities of addiction as well as zero compassion for those so afflicted. And totally non-sensical as usual.
In 2000 the free injection site was supposed to help the drug addicted in Vancouver. Over time the hope was to decrease dependency on drugs, get street people off heroin. Seems that hasn't happened. Now those street people are dying from over cut heroin made with fentanyl, which is making them overdose. Which is why there is a crisis across Canada due to fentanyl deaths. Must be more drug addicts out on the streets now then in 2000; the question is why. Maybe the oxy-codeine scandal??
Medical people get into the profession to save lives... Kinda gives them PDST when they see an addict OD over and over again. Lets talk about families that had their lives overturned by a loved one's drug addiction, to the point they have nothing to do with the individual. Why because drugs are their god and you can't trust them with your shit.
Sure drug addiction might be a disease, but all our society is doing is enabling them to still be drug addicts.
The reality of addiction, is that you shouldn't start if you can't quit it.
But hey doing drugs is cool... just now it will kill you with that fentanyl in it...
As for zero compassion, when people die from drug deaths, I think it's sad....
It is not just the addicted who suffer, but the people around them, their families and friends. Save your compassion for the people the drug addict hurt. The thing is I won't have any compassion for the people who enabled the drug addict (ignored the drug use), and are now so saddened by the loss of their friend or family member. Those compassionate fucken losers now can have their own hell to live in....
So the question for you Billiam, are you an enabler?
Fuck man, this was a tread remembering Tyler Hawkins And the tragidy of his death. Forgive us if we are sympathetic to family and situation
Let me expand a bit.
If you can read in my post, I am not sympathetic to his family and friends. The tragedy is that he used drugs. His family and friends knew this. Thus by any other logic; they are enablers of his drug use.
Like I said in the above post, this is society ignoring the problems of celebrities' who die from drug overdoses. They use words like tragedy, gone before his/her time.
So society bleeds for their loss; but the underlying problem is the drug use. Most people think drug use is cool, a way to escape the modern world for a time. A rush chemically induced by themselves for various reason, but mostly to escape the reality of modern life; stress, pressures etc.
When somebody famous dies, society's reaction is "Apologetic", and "Sorry I feel bad that they passed away". "Sorry is also used as a polite way to show your sympathy to someone because of a loss, problem, or trouble the person has had:" .
Sure that is great if they died from natural causes or in an accident; but when they die from drugs. They died putting something into their bodies and died, which is suicide; and most religions condemn suicide...
I also said that if drug addicts keep overdosing, then maybe society should just let them die. It all comes from most people in society of being "bleeding hearts". Not saying that is bad, but you have to draw line somewhere. Is society brainwashed into thinking that "life is sacred"??? Which is why you have to help if someone is in trouble?
If you look at society today, violence is considered a "bad thing", but violence is a great way to get rid of those pent up emotions... Alot of people turn to physical exercise to cope with the excess emotion.
And alot of people turn to drugs.
So why are you sympathetic to the family and the situation? Feeling emotional? Our common response to a stranger (who lost a loved one - who we don't know at all) is a society's response "I am so sorry for your loss"; which you if you think about it; you are not sorry at all. You have no direct emotional connection to to the person that died at all. If you know the person (who lost a loved one), but don't know the person who died, your only connection is thru that person you know. But in most cases, you forget about it and go about your daily life.
Billam I love your generic comments, pls be more specific on the details of additions. Pls educate me.
Please be more specific to where my compassion should be:
1. Toward the person that died
2. Family and Friends
I think I shown that both should not be given any sympathy due to the drugs and the enabling of the person doing drugs. After all, its just an opinion.
In the past you have WoWed alot of my comments/Opinions, but try to educate me in the future as to how my opinions are wrong, after all you have so much to say, without really explaining yourself.
With "like"ing a thread, you somewhat agree to it.
With "WOW"ing a thread, you disagree, but it does not tell me why you disagree with it. After all I am curious.
Have a great weekend!
