This is an interesting forum and it certainly provides a ton of information about the local Dommes and their services. Wondering what has happened to those gals that provide submissive services.Surely there must be room for forum posts that outline that type of service.
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I realize that, but the same can be said for the clients, they can also post their experiences with any sub SP's they have met. Riley Grace is in town at the moment, she provides sub services, yet she hasn't posted here, nor have any of her customers that availed themselves of that service. You can't force anybody to post, and as a client, if you want to see a particular SP again, it's not smart to post if she has requested that you don't. So take your pick, there are any number of reasons that you don't see a lot of traffic in regards to SP's that sub.
sdave does raise an interesting point. I take it as normal that this particular forum is domme-centric--it has just evolved and stayed that way. I don't have a problem with that, in fact I think it is one of the things that has given it character and staying power. If I look at alt or fet or other rooms that tend to be more male dom-centric, they tend to have live chat, and draw more wankers and people I don't really care to hang with (although I met some cool kinsters through live sites years ago). Then if you look at kinky porn sites (not that I would ever do that--sometimes I just type in the wrong thing, tee hee hee), you see a lot more sub females than sub males. I think the visual media lends itself to the female form, whether domme or sub. I accept it as a god given thing that women look better and more erotic when bound up or spanked, then men do. They look better doing the spanking, whipping, trampling, etc, too. Now reflecting on our beloved PERB BDSM forum, I converse with some of the most intelligent, awesome, introspective, and insightful people in just about any demographic I have ever melded with. So my sense, sdave, is that us birds of a feather here have a groovy vibe going, and it just resonates mostly with female dommes and male subs. There are switches (like me) on here that certainly appreciate both sides of the sub/domme coin. There are domme only folks on here. There are a few trolls that float through but usually don't stay long--the audience just is big enough to feed their egos for long, nor do we give a shit about their shit. About once a year, a little post or two on sub-females pops up. A few leads or comments are given. Then it drifts off again. I think those seekers just have a different energy state. When I feel like being a little dommie and want to chat with potential sub females or other bro-doms, my attention is simply drawn to other venues that follow that genre as their norm. Here is a thought experiment. Put 12 automotive mechanics and 12 aircraft maintenance technicians equally dispersed in a small building that has two rooms. One room is blue, the other green. They are connected by short hallway. Each room is identical with comfy seating, appetizers, beverages, and an entertainment centre. Although both groups "do maintenance stuff", by the end of the evening, you will have most if not all of the auto-dudes in one room, and the air-dudes in the other. Their particular affinity draws them together. They can co-exist quite happily. Both rooms have beer.
So like Uncleg says, there is plenty of room for "it". It just doesn't happen much because although kinkily related, there is a different tone to the chatter. Not better or worse, just different.
Punts 2 cents.
She'll let you spank her ass with your wet noodle....................
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I'm a sub and I have to say that i have not met too many female subs on these type of sites.
fetlife and BP is a good place to start looking for subs should one desire to search.
It can be very dangerous to allow ourselves to be completely submissive to a stranger (using bondage, gags, whips,pain etc), therefore, to find an attractive/beautiful sub that is "open-minded" is hard to find. Our masters/doms are respectful of our position and dont usually post reviews. Not too mention the fact that subs dont usually continuously advertise (unless they provide switch services, cant keep a dom, need to replace a dom or a master is out of commission.)
I only advertise when I want to play with someone new, need to replace a bad dom, or a master is on travel leave...
kink as in the sub/dom role is also different then seeing a regular SP, as our sessions are more about pushing boundaries, living out kinks and fantasies or/and fulfilling desires that one doesnt feel comfortable with their spouse or partners. The toys provided in the kink lifestyle are not of the typical SP either.
Some masters need to feel powerful and feel the need to be more aggressive than the regular SPs are willing to allow. .It is not just about getting off, although you cant help yourself. We develop trusting relationships with our masters in order to be comfortable to allow our limits to be pushed and explore deeper.
I have come to realize that since there is a lack of beautiful woman playing the sub role, my masters dont like doing reviews for a cple reasons...1) they dont like sharing their sub(s) 2) privacy and respect for the kink lifestyle and its SPs. and 3) Subs prefer they don't.
Its a lifestyle in which people who are into kink need to be respectful, discrete and careful.
Angelica
fetlife and BP is a good place to start looking for subs should one desire to search.
It can be very dangerous to allow ourselves to be completely submissive to a stranger (using bondage, gags, whips,pain etc), therefore, to find an attractive/beautiful sub that is "open-minded" is hard to find. Our masters/doms are respectful of our position and dont usually post reviews. Not too mention the fact that subs dont usually continuously advertise (unless they provide switch services, cant keep a dom, need to replace a dom or a master is out of commission.)
I only advertise when I want to play with someone new, need to replace a bad dom, or a master is on travel leave..
.kink as in the sub/dom role is also different then seeing a regular SP, as our sessions are more about pushing boundaries, living out kinks and fantasies or/and fulfilling desires that one doesnt feel comfortable with their spouse or partners. The toys provided in the kink lifestyle are not of the typical SP either.
Some masters need to feel powerful and feel the need to be more aggressive than the regular SPs are willing to allow. .It is not just about getting off, although you cant help yourself
. We develop trusting relationships with our masters in order to be comfortable to allow our limits to be pushed and explore deeper.I have come to realize that since there is a lack of beautiful woman playing the sub role, my masters dont like doing reviews for a cple reasons...1) they dont like sharing their sub(s) 2) privacy and respect for the kink lifestyle and its SPs. and 3) Subs prefer they don't.
Its a lifestyle in which people who are into kink need to be respectful, discrete and careful.
Angelica
I'm a bit of a switch. I love kinky play. Being submissive can be fun with the right person. Seeing as how we are strangers just meeting for the first time, I will not allow blindfolds or bondage and I'm not into humiliation or body fluids.
I'm open minded to suggestions, kinks and ideas. I'm open to allowing bondage and blindfolds once trust is established
I'm open minded to suggestions, kinks and ideas. I'm open to allowing bondage and blindfolds once trust is established
Some masters need to feel powerful and feel the need to be more aggressive than the regular SPs are willing to allow. .It is not just about getting off, although you cant help yourself
Extremely well said, Angelica. Yes, ... you can't help yourself. That's right.
I've always dated submissive girls, not sure if thats by coincidence, or subconscious preference, but it has grown over the years to become a conscious preference. It's one of the things I miss most when I'm away from home, yet it's also one of the few things I've not actively sought out from an SP. I do take note of the ladies who advertise their submissiveness, but I move around often, and poon somewhat infrequently... I just don't have the time to develop the kind of relationship with anyone to make D/s encounters as fun as they could be.
I'm sure I could fairly easily find someone new for an occasional spanking, and I will probably try that out eventually, but the real fun of D/s encounters is getting inside someone's head, and experiencing things through them. (While expressing your creativity) I find it difficult to do that unless I know a great deal about them.
Anyways, I've been thinking about the prospect of submissives for hire lately, and why there are so few female subs advertising on perb, ers, bp, and the like, yet so very many female dommes… This seems like a good place to post my thoughts on the matter.
Domming for dollars just doesn’t have the same inherent safety risks as submission does. Which means dommes are not afraid to advertise their services freely. Since they are always in full control, it would be very odd for a bad client to lead to a dangerous situation. Look at how overzealous some of the male submissives can be in their posts, as a sub these guys are probably great clients, and tons of fun. Imagine if the tables are turned and it’s an unknown Dom coming at you with the same level of excitement. :fear:
Man this ended up being long...
I'm sure I could fairly easily find someone new for an occasional spanking, and I will probably try that out eventually, but the real fun of D/s encounters is getting inside someone's head, and experiencing things through them. (While expressing your creativity
) I find it difficult to do that unless I know a great deal about them.Anyways, I've been thinking about the prospect of submissives for hire lately, and why there are so few female subs advertising on perb, ers, bp, and the like, yet so very many female dommes… This seems like a good place to post my thoughts on the matter.
Agreed, though I find that female and male subs also seem to be well represented on most sites. The biggest difference to perb is the sheer amount of female dominants here. In my experience naturally dominant females are a super rare breed, and submissive men are fairly common. With the vast majority of hetero submissive men unable to find a dominant partner naturally, most are going to be forced into the pay to play relationships we have here. That's why the market for female dommes is so good, and why so many sps advertise domme services. I'd be willing to bet that some of the girls offering dominant services aren't turned on by what goes on during their sessions, and wouldn't incorporate these activities into their private sex lives. Not that it matters… as long as the client leaves satisfied, they have done a good job… I'm sure regular SPs aren’t turned on by what goes on in some of their encounters too
I think this is the real key to the advertising demographics. Look at all the risks related to operating as a regular sp, and then imagine your target market is either creatively manipulative, or naturally aggressive, and you are putting yourself in a position where you are either mentally or physically unable to defend yourself. As Angelica says, a lot of it is about pushing boundaries and exploring each other… But, as an SP there are some boundaries that you just can't afford to push. (BBFS, marks, fluid transfers, ect) How many subs will be in the frame of mind in mid session to identify risky behavior and put a stop to it? How many subs actually want to go through a whole session where they are always fully cognizant of what is happening? I've only played as a sub twice in my life, and both times I can assure you that near the end I'd have done things that I'd never consent to otherwise. How do you know you can trust a complete stranger to care for your well being, and not push too far, or take advantage of the situation? The only way I can think of to develop that trust is to, get to know each other on websites like fetlife, or meet as SP/Client and migrate to more kinky endeavors once trust is established; which seems to be how it goes around here.
Domming for dollars just doesn’t have the same inherent safety risks as submission does. Which means dommes are not afraid to advertise their services freely. Since they are always in full control, it would be very odd for a bad client to lead to a dangerous situation. Look at how overzealous some of the male submissives can be in their posts, as a sub these guys are probably great clients, and tons of fun. Imagine if the tables are turned and it’s an unknown Dom coming at you with the same level of excitement. :fear:
Man this ended up being long...
How I wish you lived in Edmonton.
Again, wish you were closer. Definitely need to meet.
Always a pleasure and I can agree with you. My favorite Sub for sure.I consider myself to be a naturally sexually submissive...I'm sure there's a few guys who agree with me
