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beefcake11

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I think I’ve discussed this topic in the past. Just wondering if anyone else sometimes feels like they spend too much money on this hobby. I sometimes get worried and think this money could be going to my own financial future or my kids education. I’ve already gone over what I think is a lot of money for the month of June so now I need to check off the days when I don’t go visit an sp. it’s kind of like counting sobriety days in between relapses. I love every thing about this hobby, the variety, the connections with some sp’s, the feeling of entering into the unknown. But if I tally up the annual expenditures here it equals quite a few other possibilities in life. I’m not sure if I’m being selfish or just enjoying my life. I know I’m in my head about it a lot and many times feel guilty.
Just wondering if anyone else struggles with this and if they may have any advice?
 

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I think I’ve discussed this topic in the past. Just wondering if anyone else sometimes feels like they spend too much money on this hobby. I sometimes get worried and think this money could be going to my own financial future or my kids education. I’ve already gone over what I think is a lot of money for the month of June so now I need to check off the days when I don’t go visit an sp. it’s kind of like counting sobriety days in between relapses. I love every thing about this hobby, the variety, the connections with some sp’s, the feeling of entering into the unknown. But if I tally up the annual expenditures here it equals quite a few other possibilities in life. I’m not sure if I’m being selfish or just enjoying my life. I know I’m in my head about it a lot and many times feel guilty.
Just wondering if anyone else struggles with this and if they may have any advice?
All of life is a value proposition and for me it keeps changing.
The challenge is to sort out the priorities as life changes from the past into what is the present, for now.
The main thing that mess with my head is that the future is far more uncertain than the present.
For me, guilt is the most reliable aspect of the big head / little head argument.
For me, guilt is the prime indicator that what ever the guilt is about is out of balance with my present priorities.
 
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Idk how it feels to actively budget myself but I know the HOW.. just decide what amount you are comfortable with, say annually, then divide that into monthly or weekly amounts depending on how much you’re talking about, and stick to that amount? No more guilt.. enjoy every dollar spent knowing you spent it with intention

If you find your pacing/budget to be problematic then have that conversation with yourself about whether you are happy with either your savings or your pooning and make adjustments up or down accordingly!?

idk if that’s helpful it’s just a bunch of logic applied to a very impulsive and illogical activity hehe.. good luck reigning that in..
Agreed. Set a budget per encounter or over seven days or per month. There are unlimited options these days. No need to quit.
Costs are rising now due to inflation. I suspect it will return to pre Covid level pricing because of rising supply. Deflation is a thing too.
 
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Please guys, stick to the topic and don't start in on rates as the main idea here, or this will get shut down.

There's nothing wrong with enjoying the good feelings, just make sure they stay on the right side of the line. Obsession and worse is just a stone's throw away from mutual infatuation and realize that while you might only be seeing her, she's seeing many others and making her living and you better be ok with that, or there will be trouble.
 

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I think I’ve discussed this topic in the past. Just wondering if anyone else sometimes feels like they spend too much money on this hobby. I sometimes get worried and think this money could be going to my own financial future or my kids education. I’ve already gone over what I think is a lot of money for the month of June so now I need to check off the days when I don’t go visit an sp. it’s kind of like counting sobriety days in between relapses. I love every thing about this hobby, the variety, the connections with some sp’s, the feeling of entering into the unknown. But if I tally up the annual expenditures here it equals quite a few other possibilities in life. I’m not sure if I’m being selfish or just enjoying my life. I know I’m in my head about it a lot and many times feel guilty.
Just wondering if anyone else struggles with this and if they may have any advice?
 
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I might be the wrong person to comment on this as I discovered this from a link in another thread.

You will never save your way into wealth but you can always spend yourself into the ground.

I find the reward system works very well. When I have a financial achievement, I celebrate and when I miss the mark, I punish myself for it.

This hobby is expensive but no more expensive than buying supercars, travelling, or any other obsession.

In the past, when I was concerned with the money I was spending, I would immediately shift my focus and energy on building something of value, starting a new business, or connecting with someone to grow myself.

Managing expenses is not so much about money but in keeping your own word to yourself. Someone told me

“If you can’t keep your own word to yourself, why should anyone else?”

Make a plan and stick to it. If you want to break that rule, level up.
 

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Idk how it feels to actively budget myself but I know the HOW.. just decide what amount you are comfortable with, say annually, then divide that into monthly or weekly amounts depending on how much you’re talking about, and stick to that amount? No more guilt.. enjoy every dollar spent knowing you spent it with intention

If you find your pacing/budget to be problematic then have that conversation with yourself about whether you are happy with either your savings or your pooning and make adjustments up or down accordingly!?

idk if that’s helpful it’s just a bunch of logic applied to a very impulsive and illogical activity hehe.. good luck reigning that in..
Whoa, I should be an adult and do this... haha
Thanks!

“If you can’t keep your own word to yourself, why should anyone else?”
Make a plan and stick to it. If you want to break that rule, level up.
That hits hard. Top G energy.
 
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I think I’ve discussed this topic in the past. Just wondering if anyone else sometimes feels like they spend too much money on this hobby. I sometimes get worried and think this money could be going to my own financial future or my kids education. I’ve already gone over what I think is a lot of money for the month of June so now I need to check off the days when I don’t go visit an sp. it’s kind of like counting sobriety days in between relapses. I love every thing about this hobby, the variety, the connections with some sp’s, the feeling of entering into the unknown. But if I tally up the annual expenditures here it equals quite a few other possibilities in life. I’m not sure if I’m being selfish or just enjoying my life. I know I’m in my head about it a lot and many times feel guilty.
Just wondering if anyone else struggles with this and if they may have any advice?
It's all depend on you, your age, your life ( single or married), your income,etc...
The challenge is to sort out the priorities as life changes.
“If you can’t keep your own word to yourself, why should anyone else?”
Than if you're Bill.G or Zuckerberg, if you are not, than stop dreaming!
 
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beefcake11

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I might be the wrong person to comment on this as I discovered this from a link in another thread.

You will never save your way into wealth but you can always spend yourself into the ground.

I find the reward system works very well. When I have a financial achievement, I celebrate and when I miss the mark, I punish myself for it.

This hobby is expensive but no more expensive than buying supercars, travelling, or any other obsession.

In the past, when I was concerned with the money I was spending, I would immediately shift my focus and energy on building something of value, starting a new business, or connecting with someone to grow myself.

Managing expenses is not so much about money but in keeping your own word to yourself. Someone told me

“If you can’t keep your own word to yourself, why should anyone else?”

Make a plan and stick to it. If you want to break that rule, level up.
I can see your points. I do set financial goals. I am in 100% commission based sales so it all counts. I have celebrated wins, but never punished myself. That’s a new one for me. Levelling up is great, but also a process. Thanks
 

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The way I look at it, sure it's expensive to do it often. But so is drinking alcohol. So is eating outside food. So is going on weekend vacations. And you have to ask - do all those things result with a lifelong memory, a new connection or at the very least a checkmark on your bucket list?

Pooning allows you to accomplish any fantasy or desire you might have, and even if it just scratches an itch then it also works. And it's fun, I can't speak for everyone but I end up in a very happy mood for a very long time after a good visit to a new/ favourite SP.

Lastly, and very important, these providers depend on us for a living. They might make a lot of money but they take much bigger risks than we do, and I'm sure they don't all love their jobs. Mental, physical and emotional challenges with the work they do everyday, so I've no problem paying someone a premium for their time in that situation.

Think about what you can afford to spend - 5 or 8% of your annual income at maximum. That is good money to spend, it'll keep your favourite provider happy cos they can pay rent, they will make you very happy as you fulfill your desires and fantasies, and you still end the year with 90+% of your income. Win win!
 

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I quit for a few weeks earlier this year. I was having a real issue after I did some digging and saw how much I'd spent, which was double what I spent in 2019, which was already a punch to the gut. I talked about it a bit on here to just vent and when I returned, I had a better outlook but realized I couldn't stop. I do have a problem BUT I do have it under control a bit better than before. Like, I'm talking four sometimes five days a week where the odd week I'd do two in a day so I'd have maybe six in a week. Do the math and over the course of a year you can see how it would get to be just stupid. Part of it was chasing the perfect tits, the perfect ass, the perfect "pop" and realizing that the rare occasions it happens, it is over as soon as you walk out the door and you can't take it with you. My business was also kind of sitting there doing it's thing on it's own, which is fine, but I prefer to be growing it and getting more and bigger agreements/contracts. I've been able to do that so there is light at the end of the tunnel if you can take a moment to check yourself.
 

VidiVeni

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Think about what you can afford to spend - 5 or 8% of your annual income at maximum. That is good money to spend, it'll keep your favourite provider happy cos they can pay rent, they will make you very happy as you fulfill your desires and fantasies, and you still end the year with 90+% of your income. Win win!
Wait... according to this 5% - 8%... with all the poonage I see here.
Y'alls making that big monies. True Top Gs.

Kidding and not so kidding: Are we allowed to start a thread providing information on financial and business advice for up and coming brokies?
Lets not just pass on the Wisdom of the Poon Nation. Please help facilitate and advise the building of better financial foundations for the next generation of pooners!
 

VidiVeni

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I quit for a few weeks earlier this year. I was having a real issue after I did some digging and saw how much I'd spent, which was double what I spent in 2019, which was already a punch to the gut. I talked about it a bit on here to just vent and when I returned, I had a better outlook but realized I couldn't stop. I do have a problem BUT I do have it under control a bit better than before. Like, I'm talking four sometimes five days a week where the odd week I'd do two in a day so I'd have maybe six in a week. Do the math and over the course of a year you can see how it would get to be just stupid. Part of it was chasing the perfect tits, the perfect ass, the perfect "pop" and realizing that the rare occasions it happens, it is over as soon as you walk out the door and you can't take it with you. My business was also kind of sitting there doing it's thing on it's own, which is fine, but I prefer to be growing it and getting more and bigger agreements/contracts. I've been able to do that so there is light at the end of the tunnel if you can take a moment to check yourself.
Quick questions, have yet to hear anyone talk about sugar babies, will that be worth it for serious pooners with iron kidneys?
Could there be potential for a partnership program with the associations, Yumiko/K604/etc... where they would offer programs for sugar baby/sugar daddy relationships that could be on a weekly/monthly membership. Maybe swap sugar babies every so often.

I haven't heard or seen anything regarding this, if this becomes the future of the pooning business, y'all heard it from ya boi first! haha
Membership style, like the gym style of management.
 
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Quick questions, have yet to hear anyone talk about sugar babies, will that be worth it for serious pooners with iron kidneys?
Could there be potential for a partnership program with the associations, Yumiko/K604/etc... where they would offer programs for sugar baby/sugar daddy relationships that could be on a weekly/monthly membership. Maybe swap sugar babies every so often.

I haven't heard or seen anything regarding this, if this becomes the future of the pooning business, y'all heard it from ya boi first! haha
Membership style, like the gym style of management.
The bubble-tea stamp card concept or the “Porsche Drive” concept won’t work for pooning. To be fair, the Porsche Drive concept doesn’t even even work for Porsche IMO.

I’ll run the numbers quickly.

As Bobert1969 pointed out, much like some phases I’ve had, I was going out twice a day sometimes. In a slow week I would be spending $2500. In 2022 there wasn’t a month under $10k.

This is on top of all the Instagram model bullshit and all the parties overseas/travelling/etc.

If you’re spending over $3k a month you can try the sugar baby thing.

Ive had that arrangement three different times and all of them turned out to be really cool people that I’m still friends with. The part I like is that they get to interview me and see if they’re interested in me as well. I always want people around me that want to be around me so that was a plus.

For some reason, all of mine turned into more of a gf type thing which sucked because I had to break up with them once it got too personal and it felt like I was having a real break up.

If you like the idea of “one” girl then the SB/SD set up can be really great in some situations. Just outline the parameters and you’ll be alright.

If you are really captivated by someone, you can also try dating them. It can work but it’s an adventure of its own.
 

AMG-GTR

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I quit for a few weeks earlier this year. I was having a real issue after I did some digging and saw how much I'd spent, which was double what I spent in 2019, which was already a punch to the gut. I talked about it a bit on here to just vent and when I returned, I had a better outlook but realized I couldn't stop. I do have a problem BUT I do have it under control a bit better than before. Like, I'm talking four sometimes five days a week where the odd week I'd do two in a day so I'd have maybe six in a week. Do the math and over the course of a year you can see how it would get to be just stupid. Part of it was chasing the perfect tits, the perfect ass, the perfect "pop" and realizing that the rare occasions it happens, it is over as soon as you walk out the door and you can't take it with you. My business was also kind of sitting there doing it's thing on it's own, which is fine, but I prefer to be growing it and getting more and bigger agreements/contracts. I've been able to do that so there is light at the end of the tunnel if you can take a moment to check yourself.

I quoted Bobert but this is really a reference to others regarding time.

For some of us the biggest cost isn’t the money but the time associated with the hobby itself.

It’s easily 2.5 hours interference to drive, have fun, and then leave to go wherever I’m going to go after.

That’s 12.5 hours a week. If the girl is unattractive or not my type, I’ll walk, or if I’m tired and I’ve got shit to do after, I’ll just say fuck it, pay the money anyway, ask for something to eat or drink and then take a 45 min nap.

For those of us that run businesses, you know that 12 hours a week is an eternity. The opportunity cost of that 12 hours per week is what doesn’t show up in my bank account and that’s the real cost.

That’s why I don’t care about the $500, but I lose my shit when the door opens and it’s a misrepresented waste of time

What you see is what you get but what you don’t see is what gets you.
 

beefcake11

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The bubble-tea stamp card concept or the “Porsche Drive” concept won’t work for pooning. To be fair, the Porsche Drive concept doesn’t even even work for Porsche IMO.

I’ll run the numbers quickly.

As Bobert1969 pointed out, much like some phases I’ve had, I was going out twice a day sometimes. In a slow week I would be spending $2500. In 2022 there wasn’t a month under $10k.

This is on top of all the Instagram model bullshit and all the parties overseas/travelling/etc.

If you’re spending over $3k a month you can try the sugar baby thing.

Ive had that arrangement three different times and all of them turned out to be really cool people that I’m still friends with. The part I like is that they get to interview me and see if they’re interested in me as well. I always want people around me that want to be around me so that was a plus.

For some reason, all of mine turned into more of a gf type thing which sucked because I had to break up with them once it got too personal and it felt like I was having a real break up.

If you like the idea of “one” girl then the SB/SD set up can be really great in some situations. Just outline the parameters and you’ll be alright.

If you are really captivated by someone, you can also try dating them. It can work but it’s an adventure of its own.
This is next level money to me. Inspiring for sure. I need to shift my focus, think bigger and put more time and energy into my business.
 

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I quoted Bobert but this is really a reference to others regarding time.

For some of us the biggest cost isn’t the money but the time associated with the hobby itself.

It’s easily 2.5 hours interference to drive, have fun, and then leave to go wherever I’m going to go after.

That’s 12.5 hours a week. If the girl is unattractive or not my type, I’ll walk, or if I’m tired and I’ve got shit to do after, I’ll just say fuck it, pay the money anyway, ask for something to eat or drink and then take a 45 min nap.

For those of us that run businesses, you know that 12 hours a week is an eternity. The opportunity cost of that 12 hours per week is what doesn’t show up in my bank account and that’s the real cost.

That’s why I don’t care about the $500, but I lose my shit when the door opens and it’s a misrepresented waste of time

What you see is what you get but what you don’t see is what gets you.
Don’t forget to include all the time spent on this website , Leolist and others. Which you wouldn’t if wasn’t pooning 😅
 
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