I think most employers are laying off their employees, but if they have a “special” market with great employees they are probably taking care of their workers, similar to a landlord with “great” tenants, they probably aren’t evicting for non payment of rent, most likely working together to come up with a plan that helps those in need (both scenarios are based on great employees/tenants and employer/landlord that can ”weather the storm”...
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Actually I personally know SP’s who see at least 5+ clients daily. In fact AMP girls see up to 12-18 clients if they are popular (Yoyo dragon spa had 18 bookings in a day). Seeing multiple clients a day is not unusual. Wintersurfer in this very thread just stated he sees ladies for 2-3 hrs at a time at 2-3x a week. Even conservatively speaking, say they see 2-3 clients on a day, that is still averaging $500.
You must realize that SP’s see more than one person a day right? Including your favourite SP
That’s a very situation dependent scenario. Most tenant/landlord situations are transactional. You pay rent, i provide housing, everyone sticks to the rules and laws and we end our tenancy at the agreed date. Same with employers. People job hop all the time now and employers know that. Unless you are talented at your career in the top 20% of your field, more than likely your situation is average. And we have to consider all Canadians here, not just those in the top 10% and “special” to their employers like you mentioned who get perks. The reality is that alot of people are being laid off and have reduced hours at this time and will continue in the near future.
I agree
This whole conversation started with me paying a lady (which I highly respect) to not see her for now, but to help her get through this crisis without too much financial stress...
I can see why some people have an issue with that, as that money could certainly be used more effectively elsewhere. But its your money at the end of the day and your choice to do what you like with it. Just think if the situations were reversed though whether that SP would donate to you realistically speaking. Food for thought.
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people donating to SPs without service is not social service in my visionApple makes billions per year selling smartphones, that means Sony must also make billions selling smartphones, right? I think we can agree the Apple/Sony comparison is completely off base because it makes a huge implicit (and as it turns out incorrect) assumption about volume. I don't know how many clients the "average" SP sees per day. At the end of the day, it's best not to concern yourself with how much money other people make - because what you perhaps fail to realize, you'll never really know and in most cases can't even verify it.
Also, do you honestly believe an AMP girl that sees 12-18 clients per day is some sort of multi-millionaire??? Maybe that girl is - I have no clue. If I were a betting man I would say not, but who knows.
And on a final note; always remember that earning potential (which is just making assumptions and doing simple math) is NOT actual earnings or income (which is something you or I will never know in most cases when it comes to other people).
That’s great, not everyone is you though. You can be the all encompassing fund that SP’s are just dieing to get a piece of. All the power to you man. Likely less than 1% of all PERB members see SP’s for up to 9 hours on a weekly basis.
(2-3x a week at 2-3 hrs a time)
I should of left the numbers out, my point was if you have favourite sp that you see regularly (especially if she is low volume) consider helping her out (if you can)...
I’m really not sure what to say. You’re over complicating it a bit. The bottom line is that it is not unusual for SP’s to see multiple clients a day and on an average of $200-300 an hour you can quickly assimilate that they must earn more than most regular Canadian workers who make $25-35 an hour & get taxed at roughly 30% of that? That’s all there really is to it and all I really originally stated.
I'm not trying to over-complicate things. I'm saying it's silly generally to concern oneself with how much money other people make. The silliness is further amplified by using anecdotal numbers (the "I know someone that..." type of info) and assumptions to try and extrapolate someone's income to try and prove or disprove if someone should or should not receive financial help. If a person is contemplating providing some financial help to another, the person contemplating providing that help really only needs to know what their own income level can support. People overly concerned with other people's income is like your new neighbour when meeting for the first time asks "how much did you pay for your house?" Does it really even matter?!?!?
What you think is silly may only be silly to you. Someone spent their entire life studying a rare species of bugs and got a Ph.D in Entimology and genuinely believed it was a life well lived while someone else thought that was such a “silly” decision. I personally don’t judge people like that and force others to adhere to my own world view. Also it is actually worth knowing how much your neighbour paid for their house. You know how much your own house will likely realistically go for in the market. If your neighbour is willing to disclose that information, it is more likely they are open to being friends and helping each other out. Also you can see whether they paid in full or if its a rent or a mortgage etc. if paid in full you know likelihood of crime is much lower because wealthier, educated people statistically engage less in violent crime. If you had a pregnant wife or an infant at home you would want to profile your neighbour for security measures and neighbourhoods can be indicative of crime exposure.
Easy there! Pontificating things and ones chosen career path/passion are completely different things. Pontificating someone else's income (in my opinion) is silly because it makes zero difference in one's life trying to figure out how much other people make. Comparing that to saying calling someone's career path/passion as silly is nothing but a false equivalency - so just stop. And your examples of why someone needs to know how much their neighbour paid for their house is, hate to say it, asinine. Firstly, most people (just my opinion) don't decide to help others based on how much they paid for their dwelling/residence. Crime rates, average household income levels, education levels of neighborhoods and similar stats are publicly available. In other words, you simple do not need to know what one person paid for their house to determine any of those stats. Truthfully, if someone is that curious about knowing if their neighbour has a mortgage or not, that too is also publicly available information. Perhaps I'm just old-fashioned, but asking your neighbour how much they paid for this or that is just bad form.
I'm tired of beating the same dead horse over these metaphorical virgin heads. You can objectify the job of a SP down to an hourly rate all you want, but if you think a SP working for $10X/hr when you work for $X/hr is a reason to not feel sympathetic for them, then all that tells me is you over-indulge in the minute details of an hourly rate and refuse to look at the big picture. If what was said is true, we would not see a single ad on Leolist, and yet some of all of your favourites are still out there. Seriously, some of you guys need some real world experience.
That's a very valid point g eazy and should be fully respected. I would certainly not be surprised if a truly selfless gentleman such as yourself personally donated to SP's in these recent times of their utmost need?
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