SP asked me to do her bareback!!! YIKES!

[Sonny]

From what I understand, herpes can be transmitted by bbbj, and so far as I know it is not curable. I think there may be drugs that minimize or control the outbreaks, but once you get it, you're stuck with it.

My brother has herpes.

STD herpes is transmitted by surface touch, if the herpes surface area is active... generally noticeable by a group of small blisters or open sores, but may not be noticeable at all.

Frequent locations for STD herpes are the genitals, bum cheeks and lower back. Even hand contact via a massage has the potential to transmit herpes.

Herpes may flare up at any time, and is generally reactive to stress and certain foods containing Argine. Frequency of flare-up often diminishes with time. There are drugs one can take, but the amino acid L-Lysine taken as a daily supplement along with one's daily vitamins & minerals seems to have positive results as well.

I would advise checking with the Health Nurse in the Health Information Forum for answers on STD and safety questions folks may have.

 

[87112]

It happens a hell of a lot more than most people think. Mainland China girls will do it with very little prodding. Not because the guys are asking for it - although that can have a bearing on it - but because many of these girls come from places where condoms are non-existent, and men would never think of doing it with one. China is really not all that well developed; its rural population still hovers at about 80%. We only are exposed to their economic engines like Shanghai in our media. The size of their economy just passed Canada's a few years back, and we're talking a population base that is fifty times greater.

The 20% of China that is urban/city is just fascinating today. You will see scores and scores of migrants pretty much a notch or two under slave labor to the higher made city dwellers. I have seen the communities of migrant workers in the city of Guangzhou and the places are the most amazing things I have ever seen. I felt like I was walking around in a movie set, because just next to the migrant neighborhoods is the " new " China that tries to mimic the West. The contrast being being so close to another is like being in a time wrap.

The number of people who want to make a living in the cities is so staggering. You really have see it to believe it.

 

[sonoman]

> BBFS is not acceptable....unless you are married and gonna make babies!!!!!

Not acceptable? Sure it is, as long as you're both smart enough to be tested thoroughly first, and in absolute agreement that you are both monogamous with eachother. I've done it. A lot of mature people have.

The issue here is about what is reasonably safe; it's not about your personal views on when barrier-free sex is 'acceptable'. Even Catholics don't preach this as devoutly anymore.

My friend and his gf thought it was cool to do it unprotected and relied on something called the sponge.. (ok gross concept)

Accidents happen; there are other more effective methods of birth control. The sponge isn't one of them.

 

[ShqTth]

L-Lysine


l-lysine makes it harder for cells to be infected with the her herpes.
There is certain food to eat that contain this, but there is certain foods to not to eat as it helps herpes(food with a lot of Arginine). (kind of like a balace thing)...

Same thing for Shingles.. (which is just the chicken POX viruts that comes back the second time usually when under stress).


Unfortunally you can't buy L-Lysine as a suplement over the counter unless its mixed with something else. Some stupid Canadian food law. But easy to buy in the USA.

eample this link: http://www.forces-of-nature.net/topics/herpes/lysine.htm

Good for other things too.

for food containing l-lysine: (the higher the ratio of l-lysine to Arginine the better)
http://www.herpes.com/Nutrition.shtml

 

[ShqTth]

ummmm
..... Originally Posted by ShqTth
> BBFS is not acceptable....unless you are married and gonna make babies!!!!!


I was quoting danika, and agreeing..... as more responsibility is needed with it as more things could go wrong etc..


As in my friends case, he isn't too responsible yet.. and now that he has a kid, i hope he matures and get his act together.

Sponge is a stupid idea, ppl easily get misled thinking they are safe. (especially when 'sex' is on the brain)

 

[MKSTEEL]

Perfect explanation for such a outrageous offer!

I'm an average-looking guy with good hygiene who has been pooning for many years and I've never been offered a BBFS. If indeed the SP's purpose is to spawn a child, she might be assessing his net worth for a paternity suit. Or if she's a foreigner, getting knocked up by a local can be a claim towards immigration or citizenship.

Head hit on the nail dead on here notice it's asian SPs and AMPs that all these stories revolve around, don't hear about many caucasian locals offering BBFS my god BBFS The thought is terrifying the transmission risks are through the roof, i'll take my chances with DATY and BBBJ and call that enough of a risk, but sex in genral involves risks, so know the risks and get tested regularily, the HN on here is invalueble as an informal information source

 

[Whiterabbit69]

I would never go bare back with an SP, let alone any chick I pick up at the bar... heck I don't even do BBBJ's with sp's as I am afraid of getting ghon or herpes.. I prefer to play it safe at all times unless I am in a long term relationship with a girl I trust.... But to each their own I suppose..

 

[wanker]

What was the joke in the 80's (before we had heard of HIV or AIDS):

Did you hear that they finally found a cure for herpes? It's Extra Strength Tylenol.

 

[greatshark]

First off I have to say...I do not offer BBFS to ANYONE!

Not even in my personal life!!!

I do understand that I take a few risks by offering DATY and BBBJ...

But I figure there are risks for every job...and from what I have read, I understand the risks for DATY and BBBJ do not include death (HIV) Only curable situations that I have been lucky enough not to encounter.
...
Dirty Danika

Danika you should educated yourself on the risks. You can get HIV from giving BBBJ (and from the receiving them as well) and there are documented cases showing so (also with DATY).

Read it for yourself from the US Centers for Disease Control:

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/pdf/oralsex.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/qa19.htm

 

[Danika]

Happy Now????!!!!

Read it for yourself from the US Centers for Disease Control:

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/pdf/oralsex.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/qa19.htm[/QUOTE]



Alright. You scared me.

I am still your GFE Pleasure, life isn't worth living without a few risks...

I mean what am I suposed to do when I want to lick or be licked by one of my darling gemfriends.....ugh better safe than sorry....sure does take a big part of the fun out of things...and I need fun

No more BBBJ for me....That risk I can do without.

and all this talk about herpes...yuck. I freaked myself out before...lol...ass pimples or ingrown hairs are not fun especially if you believe them to be gentital herpes!!!



Your safe, sincerely sweet and sexy,
Danika.

 

[Sonny]

L-Lysine makes it harder for cells to be infected with herpes....Unfortunally you can't buy L-Lysine as a suplement over the counter unless its mixed with something else. Some stupid Canadian food law. But easy to buy in the USA.

Actually, L-lysine can now be bought in Canada as a supplement over the counter, although this was not the case previously. London Drugs has it under the brand name of Vivitas (I think).

 

[trackstar]

For all the preachers out there telling others what they should or shouldn't do, feel free to suck my dick (you supply the condoms you paranoid freaks). Nobody here is stupid and the sp's are adult enough to make their own choices on what they provide. Personally I cry bullshit on the op regardless.

 

[Sonny]

Danika, even the references you linked say that, while it is possible to transmit HIV via BBBJ, the present medical assessment is that it is relatively low risk. And, even cunnilingus provides opportunity, given the right circumstance.

From the San Francisco City Clinic... a decent source of info given the prevalence of HIV/AIDS in that city:

http://www.dph.sf.ca.us/sfcityclinic/drk/hivaids8.asp

"Oral sex and semen swallowing carry a very, very low risk of HIV infection. While some recent studies have suggested it may be zero, there are definitely case reports and individual experiences that support that HIV can be transmitted through oral sex, although it seems to be rare. It may be possible to take this concept further and reduce an already low risk activity to a lower risk one, the thinking would be that no semen would be safer than some, but truthfully there is no scientific proof in this area yet. There seems to be even a lower risk of transmission in people who receive oral sex and I am not aware of any case reports that document getting oral sex as a way to get HIV."

There are other STDs that can be transmitted via uncovered fellatio, more easily than HIV.

 

[sidara]

Not sure if the remark's about SP's hoping to get pregnant, to get out of the buisness is a joke or truely believed; Either way, I must interject and say that if she is that kind of girl, would ya really wanna be doin her(condom or not)? Cuz In my life, the last thing I need, or want is some strange dudes kid. I imagine many SP's already have children and the dead beat Dad's to deal with. Not to say it does'nt occur, But Im not fond of stereotype's and I do not want to be taken care of by anyone but myself. Not all people sell thier soul's. Some do,but I bet it happen's more in other world's and exist's minimally in this world of massage and escorting. Or who the fuck know's, I could be completley wrong(about other women,not myself) And yes offering bb is like a death wish. Highly unsexy!

 

[R the Man]

To those who think naming the SP is a good idea...have some common sense!

It's simply one guy's word that what happened, happened. No way to corroborate the story, no way for the aggrieved SP to respond, no objective evidence one way or another. It would be a great way for a sick-minded pooner (and unfortunately there are probably a lot them of them, present company excluded) who would ruin a working girl's reputation by simply hinting that she goes bareback.

So, the best advice is to keep covered if you want to be relatively safe in the hobby, or just to skip sex altogether if you want a 100% guarantee.

p.s. In my 10 years of hobbying, and I am also an average looking guy (although I have a truly magnetic personality) who is now getting on in years, I have been regularly been offered and sometimes partaken (in the heat of the moment) the evil BBFS.

R.

 

[zoeman49]

I'm coming up from L.A (USA), who is she?

 

[westcoast555]

I don't get it. I consider myself to be the average dude. Every club / bar pick-up that I have ever had in my life ended with BB intercourse. Most if not all of these bar stars are banging a different guy every Friday and Saturday night and pretty much every guy I know has no problem with it. But when it comes to an SP doing BBFS with a select client(s), she is talked about as if she is some pariah. Why ?

You are correct... it's safer top bang 20 prostitutes with a condom than one bar slut without one. There's a reason clamidiya is so common... and herpes and HPV. People get distracted by the HIV risk because it's the big one, and until recently was a death sentence.. but it's the drunk chicks out there having BB sex that are passing a lot of stuff around. Can't say I haven't had BB encounters... it tends to happen but bar chicks that give it away on the first night and you know they were with somebody the week prior... you're playing 'virus roulette'.

I actually had a session with an SP a while back where I'm pretty sure she would have let me stick it in au naturel... but I asked her for a condom.

I'll do BBBJs... but even those are a little risky. They feel damn good though.

But sex without a condom? Your sex life is a lot more fun when you don't have a fucking disease infesting your shlong... play safe!

 

[westcoast555]

Don't overplay the risk...

Danika you should educated yourself on the risks. You can get HIV from giving BBBJ (and from the receiving them as well) and there are documented cases showing so (also with DATY).

Read it for yourself from the US Centers for Disease Control:

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/pdf/oralsex.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/qa19.htm

Where'd you get your stats from, the US Surgeon General or Ann Landers?

Poeple don't gets AIDS from oral sex... it's statistically insignificant unless there's other factors like open sores in the mouth. It's herpes, and gonnorhea and maybe syphilis and I would think a big factor is if it's full on bbbj with cum in mouth or not. Most SPs will pull out when the guy starts to cum and they will rinse thoroughly with mouthwash.. it's still a risk but it's way less and it's almost unheard of to get AIDS from oral sex.

The level of risk for oral sex is still there but it's far less than for vaginal sex and AIDS really isn't the issue.

 

[FortunateOne]

Where'd you get your stats from, the US Surgeon General or Ann Landers?

Poeple don't gets AIDS from oral sex... it's statistically insignificant unless there's other factors like open sores in the mouth. It's herpes, and gonnorhea and maybe syphilis and I would think a big factor is if it's full on bbbj with cum in mouth or not. Most SPs will pull out when the guy starts to cum and they will rinse thoroughly with mouthwash.. it's still a risk but it's way less and it's almost unheard of to get AIDS from oral sex.

The level of risk for oral sex is still there but it's far less than for vaginal sex and AIDS really isn't the issue.

I think they just don't want cum in their mouth, becuz the pre-cum carries more health risks than cum itself, from what I read. westcoast555 is "bang on", of course. A lot of folks seem to focus on Aids, but don't seem at all concerned about all the other STDs.
The sticky in the Health section on bbbjs should answer all the questions anyone has. A lot of people with common STDs don't have any symptoms whatsoever. Doing a soap and water wash and eyeballing somebody's dick isn't going to tell you anything about what he's got inside lol.

 

[turquine]

Something many people ignore or aren't aware of is that government organizations like the CDC and the Surgeon General's Office MUST communicate statistics with a very conservative bias. Thus, a statistically insignificant risk is communicated as "low risk." But what's "low risk"? 1 in 10? 1 in 100? 1 in 1000? "Low Risk" implies it's a lot riskier than it really is, and they rarely give you the actual numbers.

The organizations are conservatively vague because they need to cover their asses if something untoward occurred and some weird micro-pandemic broke out. The truth is that uncovered oral sex, particularly DATY, has such a low chance of HIV transmission that it's statistically considered to be NO risk. That doesn't mean you can't catch herpes or warts or gonorrhea that way, however.

If you don't believe me, read up on the works of two of the world's leading STD/HIV researchers, both of whom are medical doctors. MedHelp.com I believe is where they live. They answer panicked queries online from people who are obsessing over the tiny, infinitesmal chance they caught the Big One. Drs. Hansfield and Hook are the ones you want.