Smollett Smells

Hugh Jass

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The Illinois Bar Prosecutors Association is justifiably not happy with the Smollett decision and state:

"Through the repeated misleading and deceptive statements to the public on Illinois law and circumstances surrounding the Smollett dismissal, the State’s Attorney has failed in her most fundamental ethical obligations to the public. The IPBA condemns these actions."

http://www.ilpba.org/announcements/7249825
 
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Hugh Jass

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This may also explain a lot.

https://twitter.com/kimfoxxforsa/status/1087483752534757376?lang=en

Kamala Harris is Foxx's mentor. Jussie Smollett is a friend of Kamala Harris. the Obamas are friends with the Smolletts family. Michelle's former top aide contacts Kim Foxx re the Smollett case. OMG charges are dropped, police not in the loop, evidence sealed..voila no record. Not hard to connect the dots.

Thanks for reforming the justice system in Cook County as promised Kim!
 

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Accusations which are false, are a defamation of character; which is slander. In today's society we tend to mouth off about everything and anything, because we think we have free speech. (Say the word BOMB in an airport- see what happens...)

Until someone is convicted of a crime, he is not a criminal, even though most people would think that person is a criminal. Criminal isn't it....

Free speech does not give us the right to mouth off and repeat other people's accusations, just because we believe the accusation. You need to know the facts behind the accusations before repeating them or you can be held to account.

And yes public opinion had already convicted Smollett, so would he receive a fair trial?

The prosecutor should of took him to court, but with what results. It would be hard to find a jury that was not prejudiced against him because of the news coverage. It just would lead to re-trails and appeals, which would not serve the public interest in time and money for a false police report...

As for a supposed hate crime, I don't think any prosecutor would want to touch that in court (or a 50 foot pole), cause it could go ballistic through either the law end, or the public exposure could be disastrous for American racial relations.
Not sure how far off base you can get, but this is pretty good.

First, people are accused of crimes all the time, by victims and the state. It's not wrong, or slanderous to accuse anyone of a crime, if youre prepared to back it up in court. Anyone wrongly accused should rightfully DEMAND their day in court, not have a secret deal erase the charges.

Not able to find a jury not prejudiced against him? Seriously? Well-publicized cases (much more publicized than this) are taken to jury trials every day.

It was a hate crime as soon as Smollett claimed he was called a faggot n***ger, claimed white men did the attacking, a noose was draped around his neck, bleach thrown on him, and the attackers yelled, "This is MAGA country." And his lawyer claims the two Nigerian brothers could have been wearing white-face.

The ony thing they didn't add were Klan sheets and burning crosses.
 

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Well he certainly did not get off Scot free. His reputation is ruined and he is the butt of a never endless array of jokes. Did you catch the skit about him on SNL this past Saturday?

Here is an overview of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBPq8pwt_aA

His life is basically ruined. Even gay men will likely avoid him like the plague. His only option is to become straight. Women are much less judgemental than gay men lol.

JD
 

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Accusations which are false, are a defamation of character; which is slander. ...

The prosecutor should of took him to court, but with what results. It would be hard to find a jury that was not prejudiced against him because of the news coverage. It just would lead to re-trails and appeals, which would not serve the public interest in time and money for a false police report...

As for a supposed hate crime, I don't think any prosecutor would want to touch that in court (or a 50 foot pole), cause it could go ballistic through either the law end, or the public exposure could be disastrous for American racial relations.

Well, it would be hard to name an actual person who he slandered. "Some white guys" ? That's like when the mafia used to hijack trucks, but "convince" the drivers to tell the police it was "some black guys" who did it. (Or is that just an urban legend?)

I'll tell you what's not an urban legend: back in the 1990's, some nutcase mom drove herself and her kids into some pond in Massachusetts. Her kids drowned, but she didn't elect to join them in death, so when the cops interviewed her, she lied and told them that she'd been carjecked by "some black guy". Well, there was violence against blacks as a result, much of which was at the hands of the Boston police who started aggressively rousting every "some black guy" they could find on the streets. Of course, the real investigation later revealed that she had killed her own kids, but in the meantime, a lot of "some black guy"s had the shit beaten out of them for the supposed actions of one of their kind.

And so yeah, I agree, what Smolett did is dangerous - aside from the "crying wolf" reaction that will happen next time some gay & black (and non-famous) person actually does get beaten up by thugs.



This may also explain a lot.

Kamala Harris is Foxx's mentor. Jussie Smollett is a friend of Kamala Harris. the Obamas are friends with the Smolletts family. Michelle's former top aide contacts Kim Foxx re the Smollett case. OMG charges are dropped, police not in the loop, evidence sealed..voila no record. Not hard to connect the dots.
I think Smolett just got the "celebrity" discount from a clueless state prosecutor.
Whatever friendliness they may have had before, nobody as high up as Harris or the Obama would ever hesitate to turn their back on him. Rahm Emmanuel (the Chicago mayor) is even closer to Harris and Obama, and he is Smolett's biggest enemy right now. Believe me, the only place Smolett is going with any of these political people is under the bus.


Not sure how far off base you can get, but this is pretty good.

First, people are accused of crimes all the time, by victims and the state. It's not wrong, or slanderous to accuse anyone of a crime, if youre prepared to back it up in court. Anyone wrongly accused should rightfully DEMAND their day in court, not have a secret deal erase the charges.

Not able to find a jury not prejudiced against him? Seriously? Well-publicized cases (much more publicized than this) are taken to jury trials every day.

... And his lawyer claims the two Nigerian brothers could have been wearing white-face.

The ony thing they didn't add were Klan sheets and burning crosses.

Well, Smolett is himself responsible for any hype that might prejudice a case against him, so it would be absurd to let that be a reason to let him off the hook. Still, stranger things have happened.

... As for the "white face" gambit by Smolett's lawyer: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
 

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“Yes, falsely reporting a hate crime makes me angry, and anyone who does that deserves the community’s outrage. But, as I’ve said since before I was elected, we must separate the people at whom we are angry from the people of whom we are afraid,” Foxx wrote in an op-ed in the Chicago Tribune. “[O]ur criminal justice system is at its best when jails are used to protect us from the people we rightly fear, while alternative outcomes are reserved for the people who make us angry but need to learn the error of their ways without seeing their lives irrevocably destroyed.”
https://theintercept.com/2019/04/01/jussie-smollett-kim-foxx-chicago/
 

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But he is a danger. If he's not stopped who knows who else he might hire to beat himself up!

Ok, seriously, a conclusion of guilt does not require he be jailed. He could've had any manner of sentence, but without the admission and/or judgment of guilt, he continues to do harm to the reputation of the CPD and casts doubt and confusion that will plague legitimate crimes in the future. Closure would be helpful. Jail time is not required. They should've done a plea deal with admission of guilt.

Hell, going from 16 charges to 0 charges (overkill to WTF?) also isn't a good look for the prosecution. Their reputation has also been harmed. Everyone looks like an impulsive hothead in this story.
 

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But he is a danger. If he's not stopped who knows who else he might hire to beat himself up!

Ok, seriously, a conclusion of guilt does not require he be jailed. He could've had any manner of sentence, but without the admission and/or judgment of guilt, he continues to do harm to the reputation of the CPD and casts doubt and confusion that will plague legitimate crimes in the future. Closure would be helpful. Jail time is not required. They should've done a plea deal with admission of guilt.

Hell, going from 16 charges to 0 charges (overkill to WTF?) also isn't a good look for the prosecution. Their reputation has also been harmed. Everyone looks like an impulsive hothead in this story.
CPD is one of the most corrupt departments in America, look into it.
 

clu

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CPD is one of the most corrupt departments in America, look into it.
I am aware. And honestly that's another reason I feel like they should've stuck with it... to eliminate any doubt in the integrity of the investigation (leaks notwithstanding).
 

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Hell, going from 16 charges to 0 charges (overkill to WTF?) also isn't a good look for the prosecution. Their reputation has also been harmed. Everyone looks like an impulsive hothead in this story.
There was one charge initially.

The Grand Jury added the 15 others, not the prosecution.
 

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He should be charged for a hate crime. He did the exact same thing as many people charged with hate crimes have done. They suffered court, so should he. Not that I am a Trump fan, but he use the MAGA Trump slogan in a definite slanderish manner. The idea of a lynching by whites is also a hate crime. Should he go to jail, yes. Just like any hate crime perpetrated on a minority would be punished.
 
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