sincerity vs. practical reality

[Urquell]

OK, so everybody knows, and likely agrees, that courtesy and being nice to your client on entrance and exit (never mind the session itself for purposes of this thread) is both a good personal/business practice and will help optimize the possibility that there will be some return business later on. This just makes sense, and very rarely, and likely only under extreme circumstances, is an SP going to tell anyone that they didn't enjoy being with them, or that they were unbelievably boring, or whatever. That again is as it should be. There's generally not many reasons to be mean to someone like that, regardless of what you might be thinking on the inside.

Now, that being said, does anyone else find the grating insincerity of some of these expressions of joy in greeting, or the glowing appreciation for having had such a wonderful session, to be more off-putting than if the SP had simply used a polite hello/goodbye? Yes, I know that some sessions have that element of connection, and really do warrant the hoopla at the end of it, but the obviously practiced and routine "I had so much fun with you" variations that come from some women have absolutely no meaning at all to me, and in fact detract from the overall experience, at least for me. Even here on the board the consistent responses in threads by some SPs occasionally seem to me to be a bit much.

Am I just jaded and cynical? Is it just me? Or does this bug any of the rest of you too?

 

[HB40]

Now, that being said, does anyone else find the grating insincerity of some of these expressions of joy in greeting, or the glowing appreciation for having had such a wonderful session, to be more off-putting than if the SP had simply used a polite hello/goodbye?

Not really, I think it's nice when they are friendly. Now if I don't get a you are the biggest or the best I've ever had then they just aren't trying very hard.

 

[Urquell]

Hubba, agreed. In fact, I'd even say that would be true even if they weren't paid advertisers. After all, you're just giving someone a compliment, right?

 

[Keithks]

I don't even talk to them anymore, because I know every word out of their mouths is going to be insincere. If they enjoyed it so much, they wouldn't cringe whenever I went in for a kiss or lie their like dead fish the whole time.Now I just get in, get mine, wipe off big jim and the twins, and then get the hell out of there.

It's not a mutually fun experience. It's a degrading act for both parties (unless the guy happens to be good looking), and I don't bother pretending otherwise. When sp's have showers afterwards, it's not just to clean their bodies, it's to clean themselves of the shame they feel from fucking betas. The betas also feel worse, because they realize money can't buy them the attraction they so desperately crave.
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[Keithks]

While a higher rate doesn't always equal quality, you said in another thread you pay 80-100 for FS. I'd assume that may be a contributing factor to why the SPs act like that.

So if I spend more, I'll become more attractive to women? I don't think so. It doesn't work like that. The higher-priced escorts may be better actors, but it's still not the same as being with someone who actually wants to be there and isn't just putting on a show.

Being ugly or being hot has nothing to do with whether an encounter is "degrading" or not. I will always maintain the best lover I've ever had was over 300lbs. He was gentle, sweet, and responsive.

Over 300 lbs. or not, you still found him physically attractive. Maybe he it was his eyes or his gait. I don't know what it was. But I can guarantee that your attraction to him was based on superficial traits that were chosen for him before he was even born and that he had no control over.
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[bobby]

I don't even talk to them anymore, because I know every word out of their mouths is going to be insincere. If they enjoyed it so much, they wouldn't cringe whenever I went in for a kiss or lie their like dead fish the whole time.Now I just get in, get mine, wipe off big jim and the twins, and then get the hell out of there.

It's not a mutually fun experience. It's a degrading act for both parties (unless the guy happens to be good looking), and I don't bother pretending otherwise. When sp's have showers afterwards, it's not just to clean their bodies, it's to clean themselves of the shame they feel from fucking betas. The betas also feel worse, because they realize money can't buy them the attraction they so desperately crave.

dude you got a real depressing and extremely narrow view on things

 

[Thatotherguy]

Over 300 lbs. or not, you still found him physically attractive. Maybe he it was his eyes or his gait. I don't know what it was. But I can guarantee that your attraction to him was based on superficial traits that were chosen for him before he was even born and that he had no control over.

You know what your real problem is? You've decided that the only reason you've been unsuccessful with women is because you weren't born as an incredibly handsome stud. Having decided that, you're free of all responsibility for your failure. Hey, it's not your fault you can't get laid, it's all because of your genes. You've now become so desperate to absolve yourself of any fault that you can't even consider that there's the slightest chance that you're wrong - even when absolutely everyone else is telling you that you're wrong.

The simple fact is that you and your attitude are the primary obstacles preventing you from having any success with women. Not that I expect you to learn anything at all from this - you're much more comfortable in your self-imposed delusions.

 

[Harmony-bc]

I don't even talk to them anymore, because I know every word out of their mouths is going to be insincere. If they enjoyed it so much, they wouldn't cringe whenever I went in for a kiss or lie their like dead fish the whole time.Now I just get in, get mine, wipe off big jim and the twins, and then get the hell out of there.

It's not a mutually fun experience. It's a degrading act for both parties (unless the guy happens to be good looking), and I don't bother pretending otherwise. When sp's have showers afterwards, it's not just to clean their bodies, it's to clean themselves of the shame they feel from fucking betas. The betas also feel worse, because they realize money can't buy them the attraction they so desperately crave.
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Oh goodness me. Every time, I read anything you type, I become very turned off, and I don't even know what you look like, hahahaa

I would say, I have a small percentage of good looking clients, the majority of them are sweet, a little over weight, maybe balding, not particularly well endowed, and I feel like a goddess with them, because they make me feel so damn, fucking sexy.

I love sex, I could care less how you look. I just want clients show up with an open mind ready to have fun. That's it. You would probably make me cry, because I would feel your pain and would probably take it on. Its better for you to see the cheaper girls, because they probably do drugs to block their empathic abilities.

 

[godfather_77]

I understand what you mean by being a bit cynical about the sincerity of the compliments.I find that if they compliment me or remark on something that I myself know is true, then I am more apt to believe them. But sometimes when I get complimented on something less obvious, that shows that the SP is at the very least paying attention to something beyond the obvious. For example, if you are handsome, you are usually used to that compliment, it doesn't need a lot of sincerity or effort for someone to compliment you on that particular part of your appearance, but if someone compliments you on your knees or right ear lobe that is novel and typically shows some effort in getting to know someone.

 

[vince_chase]

OK, so everybody knows, and likely agrees, that courtesy and being nice to your client on entrance and exit (never mind the session itself for purposes of this thread) is both a good personal/business practice and will help optimize the possibility that there will be some return business later on. This just makes sense, and very rarely, and likely only under extreme circumstances, is an SP going to tell anyone that they didn't enjoy being with them, or that they were unbelievably boring, or whatever. That again is as it should be. There's generally not many reasons to be mean to someone like that, regardless of what you might be thinking on the inside.

Now, that being said, does anyone else find the grating insincerity of some of these expressions of joy in greeting, or the glowing appreciation for having had such a wonderful session, to be more off-putting than if the SP had simply used a polite hello/goodbye? Yes, I know that some sessions have that element of connection, and really do warrant the hoopla at the end of it, but the obviously practiced and routine "I had so much fun with you" variations that come from some women have absolutely no meaning at all to me, and in fact detract from the overall experience, at least for me. Even here on the board the consistent responses in threads by some SPs occasionally seem to me to be a bit much.

Am I just jaded and cynical? Is it just me? Or does this bug any of the rest of you too?

i guess it is no different then when you bought a car,a house....etc. from a sales person.
some of the sales people DO enjoy their work and they are somewhat sincere when they say what a wonderful experience it was for them selling you whatever.some of the sales person just treat you like a piece of meat regardless of the amount of money you just spent.
i am not cynical, just realistic. the way i see it is that whenever money exchanges hands, it is a business transaction, as long as you are satisfied with the product you bought, everything else is secondary.

 

[Urquell]

So then, given the choice, you're equally comfortable going back to the smarmy, obsequious salesman as opposed to the helpful, professional one, because at the end of the day the product is exactly the same, is that it? I doubt that given a conscious decision you'll go back to the one that's full of shit, assuming that other options are available, and the product is equal.

 

[vince_chase]

So then, given the choice, you're equally comfortable going back to the smarmy, obsequious salesman as opposed to the helpful, professional one, because at the end of the day the product is exactly the same, is that it? I doubt that given a conscious decision you'll go back to the one that's full of shit, assuming that other options are available, and the product is equal.

well, have you ever wanted to buy something that you need in a hurry and you know that the product being the same, the store closes to you has a salesperson you don't like, however, you need the product, therefore, you just went and bought it and never spent the next 2 days agonizing about the sales person?

was the sex(product) good with the SP?if so, i probably would go back. my opinion.

 

[FloridaGuy]

You may not agree but many women under 25 may not feel the same way as you which is the potential inherent problem in 40+ yr old pooners seeking 21 yr olds.

I concur. If you want a believable GFE session, see an age-appropriate SP. When I book a 21 year old, I don't expect a sensual experience, I expect mechanical sex. That's fine, as I am happy to have any kind of sex with a 21 year old, to enjoy her smoothness and firmness and tightness. Its a bonus if she's a wonder fuck as well. For great interactive sex, stick to a lady in your own age group.

 

[melissa.in.abby]

I would say, I have a small percentage of good looking clients, the majority of them are sweet, a little over weight, maybe balding, not particularly well endowed, and I feel like a goddess with them, because they make me feel so damn, fucking sexy.
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I love that, I am pretty insecure myself! (not saying you are) I just want the guy to like me, and think I am hot! It is very uplifting ... it makes my day if I think the guy is really attracted to me, regardless of what he looks like.... Although, when they are cuter than me it makes me nervous, I admit!

 

[Karl Blues]

IAlthough, when they are cuter than me it makes me nervous, I admit!

I doubt any of them are cuter than you!

 

[turbo66]

WOW here are some pretty depressed people out there. Every SP i've seen is very sweet. After the intial hi is out of the way, we never talk money again unless some more time is wanted with the lady. I always try and make her fell comfy with me as they make me feel comfotable. If there is a connection verbally and mentally I think there can be a connection sexually. These are ladies trying to make a living, having fun and satisfying us gentlemen (Hopefully we all are gentlemen in there comany). I get SP's for comany once in awhile for fun. I'm in my middle age, so it's not like I'm lonely or undersexed. Please treat these ladies with respect. If it doesn't work out, don't contact her anymore.

 

[bobby]

WOW here are some pretty depressed people out there. Every SP i've seen is very sweet. After the intial hi is out of the way, we never talk money again unless some more time is wanted with the lady. I always try and make her fell comfy with me as they make me feel comfotable. If there is a connection verbally and mentally I think there can be a connection sexually. These are ladies trying to make a living, having fun and satisfying us gentlemen (Hopefully we all are gentlemen in there comany). I get SP's for comany once in awhile for fun. I'm in my middle age, so it's not like I'm lonely or undersexed. Please treat these ladies with respect. If it doesn't work out, don't contact her anymore.

exactly. there's people on here who seem to enjoy being jaded. in general in life people give you what you give. be easy going, respectful and fun and you'll bring that out in most people you deal with. most people are good, sometimes people forget that.

 

[Sucre]

Sincerity real or imagined is critical

I agree that how a sp greets or talks to her client has a major impact on the enjoyment of the session and any decision to a) on first conversation come to see her in the first place or b) on first session return for repeat visits.

The few times I have had off putting issues is with a SP attitude is usually when calling to consider setting up an appointment. I am sometimes called on the phone “honey”, “hun”, “love” or other name connoting some intimacy, yet as we both know we have never met. I hate be called honey by a stranger as it is condescending and disrespectful. If that is how I am greeted, no visit is scheduled and if it happens during the session, no return is forthcoming.

I will never (deliberately) disrespect a SP so I would hope that when they chose their words or gestures, they in turn make me feel special, not just as a mark. So please I would ask SP’s to use words wisely and make us feel special –acting is allowed. However, I have been mostly very fortunate. The vast majority of SP’s I have met have a great attitude. Most greet me with apparent sincerity (oh yes a big hug and/or a kiss works too) but even a simple hello and smile, or maybe calling me by my first name works.

Can the SP go over the top in compliments. Well it depends of the degree of sincerity with which it is rendered. Even the common outrageous compliment, during or after the session (“you are so big”) is fun if said either with humor or awe! (LOL) If the Sp appears to be having fun, chances are I will too. I expect many SP’s enjoy their work, or are relieved that I am hygienic and respectful of them or maybe they are just good actors.

 

[MRGREEN]

What she said.......

Peace
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[Bartdude]

Am I just jaded and cynical? Is it just me? Or does this bug any of the rest of you too?

Nope. You're just jaded and cynical.

I don't even talk to them anymore, because I know every word out of their mouths is going to be insincere. If they enjoyed it so much, they wouldn't cringe whenever I went in for a kiss or lie their like dead fish the whole time.Now I just get in, get mine, wipe off big jim and the twins, and then get the hell out of there.

What an incredibly narrow-minded and mean-spirited attitude. It's clear you are a difficult client, an unpleasant person to deal with, and/or have not been very selective/smart in which SP's you are visiting. You might as well stay home and jack off. Sheesh.

It's not a mutually fun experience. It's a degrading act for both parties (unless the guy happens to be good looking), and I don't bother pretending otherwise. When sp's have showers afterwards, it's not just to clean their bodies, it's to clean themselves of the shame they feel from fucking betas. The betas also feel worse, because they realize money can't buy them the attraction they so desperately crave.

I'm getting sick and tired of your pathetic attitude. Every fucking comment you make seems to have the goal of communicating a thinly-veiled hatred of women in general, and extreme bitterness about life. Not to mention this bizzare, annoying theme of "beta males" and how life screws them over. Here's a bulletin for you - NOBODY FUCKING CARES.

Enough already. I don't exactly consider myself an 'alpha' male, and yet my attitude is nothing - ABSOLUTELY NOTHING like yours. Being a non-alpha male doesn't make you less of a man. Being a pathetic, bitter, cowardly, neurotic loser, however....

Save your pooning money and see a counsellor. Fast.

**clicks ignore**