Should BBBJ's be Included in a Standard GFE Session?

[Bad Santa]

I wish I'd never started this thread! It's my own personal "Night of the Living Dead." It keeps coming back to life over and over and over again. People, please let it die.

Zombies are people too. Let them R.I.P.!

 

[*Sven*]

I wish I'd never started this thread! It's my own personal "Night of the Living Dead." It keeps coming back to life over and over and over again. People, please let it die./QUOTE]bump

 

[starlight_starbright]

No money is worth that service and you and your client are just putting themselves at risk. A standard GFE call only includes kissing and cuddling more, THAT"S IT!

 

[hipdude]

I know one thing... if I was an SP, no way I'd suck endless cock without a condom. I know guys, and I know what guys will do. Sucking anonymous cock without a condom is just stupid. Aside from the feeling that sucking cock has got to be pretty humiliating for a girl if the guy has no respect for her... I mean come on, how many guys deep down really do respect the girl who sells her body for money - even if he treats her real nice.

Yeah its been said many times, she bears all the risk and the guy almost none. He could leak HIV infected precum in her mouth, she'd never know it.

Do I think bbbj be a standard part of GFE? Hell yeah. Would I want someone I cared about to become an SP? Hell no.

 

[luvsdaty]

We kinda do make the rules as we choose on weather or not we're going to see any perticular sp? Weather or not it's included in a session? meh, don't really care one way or the other.

 

[violetblake]

I know one thing... if I was an SP, no way I'd suck endless cock without a condom. I know guys, and I know what guys will do. Sucking anonymous cock without a condom is just stupid. Aside from the feeling that sucking cock has got to be pretty humiliating for a girl if the guy has no respect for her... I mean come on, how many guys deep down really do respect the girl who sells her body for money - even if he treats her real nice.

Yeah its been said many times, she bears all the risk and the guy almost none. He could leak HIV infected precum in her mouth, she'd never know it.

Do I think bbbj be a standard part of GFE? Hell yeah. Would I want someone I cared about to become an SP? Hell no.

This statement is filled with contradictions. There's a lot I could say here, but the one part that I take offense too, obviously, is the respect thing. I'm not ashamed about what I do, I enjoy it and am proud of who I am and all my choices. So if you're having sex with a girl you don't respect (paid or unpaid) what does that make you?? It makes you a hell of a lot worse that whatever stupid reason you have for not respecting her in the first place.

 

[violetblake]

Thanks, you rock too!

 

[lenny]

The question at hand is not so much what is the clients tolerance for risk, but does the sp doing it have all the facts, and is she making a decision to do this based on real facts and not just the made up ones often presented. Like there is a difference betwee swallowing, CIM, or just a bbbj. (There isn`t)

I believe the Health Nurse has stated there is a difference in risk levels & that recieving BBBJ + CIM is more risky
than a BBBJ w/o the added CIM. From some porn i`ve watched the ladies hold the cum in their mouth or even
gargle with it like a mouthwash, which would be a particularly risky form of CIM. The HN said:

"...The risk reward of a bbbj like everything else in life is a personal decision and really depends on what the person is comfortable with. Someone`s risk tolerance can also change over time based on what happens in your life e.g. new information, personal experience, changes in social situation etc...

"...Just remember that the chance of getting HIV from performing oral sex on a man with HIV is considered low. Not having the person cum in your mouth would reduce this chance.

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...han-BBBJ&p=1256364&highlight=BBBJ#post1256364

"The good news is that things can be done to reduce the risk...Getting tested on a regular basis (as most STI do not have symptoms)."

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...th-risks&p=1176044&highlight=BBBJ#post1176044

The only safe way to bbbj is possibly with a guy who has no prostate and thus no fluids. It is not a random chance, for an sp, it is an inevitable outcome. They do this daily, several times a day in most cases. It is inevitable that something will happen eventually. For a client, they are on the giving end, and do not expose themselves to the same risks. It is near impossible for fluids from her mouth to travel down the uretha, for example. Obviously fluids leak out immediately into the mouth and down the throat. Obviously that is a completely different level of risk. It is not 1/6 or 1/4, or whatever. If the guy has an std she has a 100% chance of getting it. Chance is not certainty, it is "possibility". Denying it is stupid. Making informed decisions is not.

The HN chart agrees with you that the giver of a BBBJ is at greater risk for STIs than the reciever:

http://healthnurse.wordpress.com/faq-about-sexual-health/sti-risks-chart/

However i think it is incorrect to say if "the guy has an std she has a 100% chance of getting it."

BTW, being aware of a client recently testing negative on STI tests would help in that regard.

 

[Pillowtalk]

^^ This topic is almost a year old. Why are you resurrecting it with more attempts to reinterpret (badly) HN's posts.

Not everything is about HIV. Get over it.

 

[lenny]

PT, I was surprised & wondering how you could make such ridiculous statements.

People do search threads, both here & in the Health forum for info, you know.

 

[vancity_cowboy]

^^ This topic is almost a year old. Why are you resurrecting it with more attempts to reinterpret (badly) HN's posts.

Not everything is about HIV. Get over it.

PT, I was surprised & wondering how you could make such ridiculous statements.

People do search threads, both here & in the Health forum for info, you know.

get a room you two - or take it to the health section... know what i'm sayin' here?

 

[blazejowski]

Lenny resurrecting a thread about BBBJ? Nahhhh....
Get over it, already...

 

[lenny]

no BBBJ = no GFE
no daty = no GFE
no dfk = no GFE

Would that be BB-DATY or C-DATY? Bareback or condom/covered?

To be consistent should those who sanction BBBJ also sanction BBDATY? Asuming the risks are about the same, which the Health Nurse chart appears to indicate:

http://healthnurse.wordpress.com/faq-about-sexual-health/sti-risks-chart/

 

[vancity_cowboy]

Would that be BB-DATY or C-DATY? Bareback or condom/covered?

To be consistent should those who sanction BBBJ also sanction BBDATY? Asuming the risks are about the same, which the Health Nurse chart appears to indicate:

http://healthnurse.wordpress.com/faq-about-sexual-health/sti-risks-chart/

lenny, in case you didn't get the memo, discussions are allowed in the health section now. you shouldn't be resurrecting old threads about health matters - you should be starting new threads in the health section. just sayin'

 

[lenny]

lenny, in case you didn't get the memo, discussions are allowed in the health section now. you shouldn't be resurrecting old threads about health matters - you should be starting new threads in the health section. just sayin'

I am not aware of such an official statement from a moderator, but perhaps a wannabe mod
can refer me to such, if any exists. However there is this which does NOT state members can
start new discussions in the health section, but merely REPLY to them:

"We are going to allow discussion threads in the Health forum from here on in. Anyone is welcome to reply to DISCUSSION threads only. Questions are still the sole responsibility of the Health Nurse to respond to, anyone caught overstepping those bounds will be subject to the zero tolerance policy we have been enforcing. Please guide yourselves accordingly."

Also, BTW, AFAIK the only "discussion" threads there now are those that were moved there
by a mod from a different forum. But feel free to try to start one there & see what happens.

Moreover, it seems there is a lot more to this thread than "health matters", so i'm not sure
if the powers that be want it there. I guess it would be already if an official, rather than merely
wannabe, PERB policeman wanted it to be, eh? But, who knows, i'm sure mods have a life.

 

[vancity_cowboy]

I am not aware of such an official statement from a moderator, but perhaps a wannabe mod
can refer me to such, if any exists. However there is this which does NOT state members can
start new discussions in the health section, but merely REPLY to them:

"We are going to allow discussion threads in the Health forum from here on in. Anyone is welcome to reply to DISCUSSION threads only. Questions are still the sole responsibility of the Health Nurse to respond to, anyone caught overstepping those bounds will be subject to the zero tolerance policy we have been enforcing. Please guide yourselves accordingly."

Also, BTW, AFAIK the only "discussion" threads there now are those that were moved there
by a mod from a different forum. But feel free to try to start one there & see what happens.

Moreover, it seems there is a lot more to this thread than "health matters", so i'm not sure
if the powers that be want it there. I guess it would be already if an official, rather than merely
wannabe, PERB policeman wanted it to be, eh? But, who knows, i'm sure mods have a life.

one thing about trolls pardners, it shore don't cost much to feed 'em :violin:

 

[sevenofnine]

you guys should listen to your self.
you want everything for nothing,
and when a lady dares to charge you call her a gold digger or worse.
everything should be free or included in one basic simple fee social time anal bbbbj whatever you want you don't respect the ladies, you don't care about them
you only want what ever you can get from them the cheapest way you can get it.
i take the ladies side on this,

sorry guys you don't have a leg to stand on in my books.

and the lady i see,
i said it before i treat her the best i can book long sessions we do what is comfortable and works for both of us, and i mean that,
and i book long sessions.
because.
i need to know she is ok,
i need to know she is ok with me, and we take our time enjoy supper, and the evening.
i need to know were both ok and will be,

sorry guys but you sound just pathetic. every thing bad about this hobby, when you don't respect and treat a lady right.

 

[lenny]

Just curious who would start the discussion threads we're allowed to reply to, if not we ourselves?

Has one ever been started in the Health Forum?

Anyone can post a question in the health forum, so I assume anyone can also post a discussion topic?

Like i said, feel free. You may be the first. They all seem to start with the word "Discussion" in the title followed by "-" and the subject. Of course what one "can" do does not necessarily mean it is allowed, or has been given the public seal of approval to do so.

 

[lenny]

Do you have a topic you'd like me to post for discussion for you?

No, thanks, not at the moment.

 

[Mod-2]

A quick glance at the first page in the Health Forum shows 4 threads that start with 'Discussion', so I would assume those are threads that are open for discussion from all board members.

The ones starting with 'Question' would be question threads that only the Health Nurse can reply to.

I guess it's up to the individual who starts the thread, whether they would like the topic to be open for discussion or just looking for an answer from the HN.

Do you have a topic you'd like me to post for discussion for you? I would be willing to risk the 'Wrath of the Mods' for you lenny.

This is correct, discussion threads are open to everyone to comment in. Question threads are for the health nurse alone to answer. As long as everyone follows those guidelines there will be no Wrath of the Moderators to deal with.