Mr. Green, I like your post. This thread took a somewhat negative turn for a while. It's worth remembering that the thread started out on the topic of honest relationships between SPs and clients. When both parties to the activity remember that it's a business relationship, and when in that context a respectful client receives good service from an SP, it can be a very beneficial thing.
Sex Work is the Most Honest Relationship You'll Ever Have...
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Yes green is right absolutely. I decided to act quickly after my disappointment the other day and found a wonderful treasure. So a lot of good came from a little bad.
It was another SP who advertised on perb and I had a few PM's with. But when I met her the action was unsurpassed
It was another SP who advertised on perb and I had a few PM's with. But when I met her the action was unsurpassed
My $.02; I don't have a ton of experience with SPs, but anytime I indulge, the prime imperative at the start is good clear communication.
I negotiate my wants, needs and expectations, she say yes or no to the parameters and $s. If all is green we proceed.
So I'd have to agree to the OP.
I negotiate my wants, needs and expectations, she say yes or no to the parameters and $s. If all is green we proceed.
So I'd have to agree to the OP.
I disagree. There are many times I have left the SP earlier than expected. One claimed the condom broke after ten minutes, which it did not and I had to stop because she needed to check it out. I stopped and she had me remove it so she could test it at the sink and then came back and said I had cum. Again I had not. This chick was a lunatic and although she stated we could start over, I said hell no and just left and this was someone who was charging $320 She kept grabbing my arm because she did not want me to leave and kept apologizing, but I am not wanting to stay with a girl who is paranoid or insane. So to answer the original question of whether sex work is the most honest relation I have ever had is "NO" 5 experiences out of 10 are a big disappointment. 3 are mediocre and 1 is a complete ripoff and then only one out of ten felt like a true experience or connection.
It's not really a good idea for a guy to do anything but leave. When I was younger and much dumber, I stayed to argue. I regretted it, very dumb thing to do. Now, I just leave if I chose to got through the door and restrictions started happening after she had the money. With the leg thing where you would have to forcibly spread the legs, you ARE committing rape, doesn't matter that you paid. With the "making sure the condom stays on" thing where you are banging painfully against her knuckles - you can only take so much of that before it's time to leave. Then there is the "aren't you finished yet?" and all of the other games that are played.Huh... Bad business practices for sure! Maybe we could redo the reviews like Yelp... Give a star rating to a lady along with your review, and her overall star rating can be an average of all the ratings given. Maybe if ladies knew more that they would be held accountable they would think twice about that sort of thing. Then, of course, there's always the girl that doesn't care because not only is she not having fun, but she's not committed and she'll just be a "new girl" every week anyways.
Charming, I'm sure...
My chance to leave with my money still in my pocket ends as soon as I pass through the door.
That's why so many pooners frequent the AMPs. If all you are after is straight FS with no games, that's usually the most reliable place to go. The problem being that many of the women at AMPs are "handled". That's why they deliver straight FS with no games.
It's rare to find an Independent that has you leaving feeling satisfied and good about yourself. That's why you get guys like Dickson that pay big bucks for the fantasy and even then, they leave disappointed a fair percentage of the time. A few years ago when I was basically seeing 2 women, quite a few of the women that posted here at the time would try and tell me that they were as satisfying as my ATF. They weren't and I knew it because I had seen them before I met my ATF. They were half her rate and still not worth spending money on. One of them is still using pictures that she used back then, probably is still no fun to be with.
lol, and today there is a thread on a place that rents sex dolls. The ultimate AMP experience, without the client having to worry about if the woman is actually a consenting partner. No Bait and Switch, No fake Pictures, No "there will be an upcharge for that", No trying to guess if the client will be allowed to cum. Just rent the doll and get it on.
A large portion of the sex worker's clientele is a little tired of hearing about how C-36 means the SP can't be clear on what she will do for the client's money. Thinking that the picture the client sees represents, in any way, what is behind the door. One SP is using the same pictures she used in 2005, and they were 5 - 10 years old then. A lot of SPs are using "body like mine" pictures. Only in her fantasy world.
For the client that just wants to "get it on", sex dolls may be an ideal solution. Certainly a lot less frustrating than the first session with a new SP usually is. Probably the same rate as an hour at an AMP.
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PierreCoeur has described many of the situations very well too. So we are seeing stories About those who honour their contracts and those who don't in this thread. One telling point is so often the greeting at the door. If you open the door and find yourself almost immediately in a warm and kissy embrace you just know it's going to be a great day. But when you feel like you are the grocery order arriving then you know quite differently. Even the entrance into an MP can be judged the same.
I'm sure many have the whiskers to know the difference and have made a snap decision to vacate wallet intact.
I'm sure many have the whiskers to know the difference and have made a snap decision to vacate wallet intact.
I'm married. I'm an aethiest. And my marriage is significant to me. Always be careful when throwing out blanket statements like this sir.
In this past little why I feel exactly the same way as nickcan. It means absolutely nothing. I rather live single happy then married and .......
It took me many years to realize this and now, I'm happier about it, no more drama and headache.
On being disappointed and setting expectations for each other... One way I prevent that is to make sure there is enough communication before the first meeting. A little bit of back and forth allows to set the tone - whatever the tone may be for that person - to gauge sense of humour, mutual respect, interests etc... As well as cover the nitty gritty details of the meeting because I prefer not to have those conversations in person. Having to discuss restrictions in the middle of lovemaking is a real shame, for example.
I'm surprised at how difficult it is sometimes to get a potential new friend to share a little about himself. Regardless of the price point one plays at, I get a sense that there would be less frustration if we were all better able to talk to one another I know men are from Mars and women from Venus but even in this game, communication is key...
I'm surprised at how difficult it is sometimes to get a potential new friend to share a little about himself. Regardless of the price point one plays at, I get a sense that there would be less frustration if we were all better able to talk to one another
I know men are from Mars and women from Venus but even in this game, communication is key...
Honestly, newatit, it's different with everyone but here's my take: if an SP offers longer and shorter visits, then I think she should honour the time, if a gentleman chooses a longer time slot. She can never tell how long he needs for the playtime, so there is a certain amount of guessing involved. Some men need 5 minutes, some need 25, and it's a rather uncool question to ask/topic to cover. I recommend the playtime first, so that the massage time can be given in the time that is left.
Having said that, sometimes a visitor is ready to leave, and they really don't want to stay those last 15-ish minutes, so it would be awkward to try and make them stay.
Sadly, some fellas book a half hour and they would never leave, if they didn't get gently/not-so-gently ushered out the door, so that is also unfair. Shower before, extended playtime, and then they ask if there's time for a massage. Really? And now a shower after? Just how much do some people think they can squeeze into a half hour. They take advantage of the good-natured SP, and see how far they can push her.
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No rose-colored glasses here. The arrangement is super clear, play for pay, hanging out for the agreed-upon-time (sometimes texts or emails between visits), everyone knows the expectations. Unlike civvy dating, where guys often pretend to be interested in more, but are really there to get laid. It is so clear for me, and I so appreciate the honesty of it all! I never said it was perfect or that it would take the place of an intimate partnership that worked. But compared to dating, I consider it more honest.
Wow you really hit the nail on the head with that about the greeting at the door. Some of my best experiences are where the girl who came to the door welcomed me warmly and took my hand guiding me to her room. I cannot exaggerate that expression of warmth and what it meant to me and how much better the experience was. Even if it is a simple hug, it is a genuine attempt to connect with a client.
Thanks for sharing your experiences, green. As I commented earlier, there are most definitely unicorns out there, and you just proved it! <3
