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stryker

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Yoh,VV darling,,your ol friend Stryker :)

Where the hell are you on this one after 5 days hun??Cum on,we can't let a clusterfuck like this go on for ever can we?:p

(Besides,my heads a hurtin from reading all this)
 

cockkhound

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You've got to be kidding me. I didn't know I had to justify my presence in this business based on what my expectations of friends are, in my personal life, outside of this business? That's news to me. I didn't quite get the whole reasoning behind the conclusion that she identifies as indecent.. but I still feel the same way about his behavior to, as a friend, expect and demand a BJ in exchange for help with a freaking chandelier being rude and inappropriate. Uuh.. Hello?

So, because I am in this business, I should be overwhelmed with pleasure when any guy off the street, in my circle of friends, an acquaintance, my landlord, my butcher (lol), hell - the cab driver too while we're at it.. I should jump for joy and at the chance of giving it away to them, for free (or whatever worth they decide).. and the reason I should be so happy about this wonderful opportunity, is because in another side of my life, I get asked for sex for an amount determined by me, one that is mutually and previously agree upon before anyone takes any clothes off or hands out an envelop?

Ahhh. OK. :rolleyes:


Sorry, it is not the same. Yes, it is rude for anyone in my personal life to demand or expect any type of sexual favors, because they have accepted to do me a favor... and no, this is not in any way the same thing as someone asking/paying for services where everything is clear between both people as to what the expectations are.


Well, what can I say... I guess it's a good thing you and I are not friends then?! lol






You sure have lots to say for someone who's not concerned.. ;) lol Say... you happen to fix any chandeliers as a favor to someone lately? Just wondering... :p
And isn't the lounge mostly about 'real life' related topics anyway?

well put. I like your way of putting things.
 

chilli

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However, this is a reality and unfortunately when most heterosexual guys do a favour for a woman (particularly an attractive one) they are usually angling for something sexual and if they are willing to hang a chandeliere for you for free, I think that VV should have had that possibility in the back of her mind, as hanging a chandeliere is a pretty shitty job. I doesn't make it right, but that's the way it is.

However there is a reality and unfortunately when most heterosexual girls ask a man for a favor it's because they are usually angling the "helpless female" role.

As stated.... It's called using men.

If women are truly "equal" to men, why do they use them for "favors" so much?

VV owes this poor guy an apology.

Not a very nice way for her to treat a "friend" imo.
 

Very Veronica

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lunch was offered but i don't do nachos & crappy beer

Chez Veronica was dishing up either wild sockeye soup with baby spinach & red potatoes, fennel & a saffron rouille OR wild mushroom risotto with radicchio, walnut, pear & gorgonzola salad. Plus Stella, Becks, a sicilian white, variety of cabs..the only six pack around my house are my abs & he's been told before they are not on the menu. He opted to dine elsewhere altho he did enjoy a shot of my creamy espresso (with vanilla bean infused sugar). No dessert.

I don't know about a quickie, but I think an appropriate offer would've been some beer and maybe a snack (or a meal, if around lunch or dinner)... and the whole process should've gone like this (as in, this is how guy's brains work):

"Hey buddy, could I get you to come over and hang a chandalier for me? There'll be a six pack and some grub in it for you".
 

DaBoneman

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Chez Veronica was dishing up either wild sockeye soup with baby spinach & red potatoes, fennel & a saffron rouille OR wild mushroom risotto with radicchio, walnut, pear & gorgonzola salad. Plus Stella, Becks, a sicilian white, variety of cabs..the only six pack around my house are my abs & he's been told before they are not on the menu. He opted to dine elsewhere altho he did enjoy a shot of my creamy espresso (with vanilla bean infused sugar). No dessert.

Fuck you're good in the kitchen too!!! :)
 

humanfly009

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Should have asked him if he wanted you to peg him instead.... put a strap-on on and have your way with him and rip him a new one..... that would have been giving him what he deserves some surgery for even suggesting that he was deserved a BJ. You may be an SP ... but your not a slut. I do and have done favours for people and don't expect or even want anything in return. Humans are a selfish race.
 

Cosmo

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Chez Veronica was dishing up either wild sockeye soup with baby spinach & red potatoes, fennel & a saffron rouille OR wild mushroom risotto with radicchio, walnut, pear & gorgonzola salad.

Ohh la la... a choice. You mean VeeVee can cook? :eek:

(I'd choose the latter, btw)

Will wonders never cease!
 

Miss*Bijou

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However there is a reality and unfortunately when most heterosexual girls ask a man for a favor it's because they are usually angling the "helpless female" role.

As stated.... It's called using men.

If women are truly "equal" to men, why do they use them for "favors" so much?


Oh my.. That's a pretty big chip on your shoulder there. I am completely amazed that you could seriously believe this kind of crap.. and feel a little sorry for the women in your life, past, present or future, who make the mistake of asking you for a favor!

How the hell does asking for favors translate into, or even remotely relates to whether or not men and women are 'equal'? My male friends ask for as many favors as I ask, although I can't say I actually keep track.. I never equated their asking for a favor to them being lesser, or weak. Your mind has an interesting way of twisting things to make you feel superior to others around you, doesn't it?



Let me see if I understand your point of view...

So... have any of you ever asked one of your females friends for a favor? Maybe they cooked for you, gave you a ride somewhere, watched your place while you were away, whatever.. any favor. I suspect quite a few of you here don't even have female (platonic) friends to begin with, which pretty much says it all, but those of you who do can answer...
And how about asking favors from male friends? Say, help fixing or building something that requires more than one person, for example..

By asking for that favor from your friends (female and male), what you are saying is that you were really 'using' them? That was your intention? And how did you 'compensate' for it? Was the 'compensation' implied, expected or demanded of you from your friend once they had helped you out? Just curious..


I bet people must be lining up to be friends with some of you guys... :rolleyes:
 

chilli

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Oh my.. That's a pretty big chip on your shoulder there. I am completely amazed that you could seriously believe this kind of crap.. and feel a little sorry for the women in your life, past, present or future, who make the mistake of asking you for a favor!

How the hell does asking for favors translate into, or even remotely relates to whether or not men and women are 'equal'? My male friends ask for as many favors as I ask, although I can't say I actually keep track.. I never equated their asking for a favor to them being lesser, or weak. Your mind has an interesting way of twisting things to make you feel superior to others around you, doesn't it?



Let me see if I understand your point of view...

So... have any of you ever asked one of your females friends for a favor? Maybe they cooked for you, gave you a ride somewhere, watched your place while you were away, whatever.. any favor. I suspect quite a few of you here don't even have female (platonic) friends to begin with, which pretty much says it all, but those of you who do can answer...
And how about asking favors from male friends? Say, help fixing or building something that requires more than one person, for example..

By asking for that favor from your friends (female and male), what you are saying is that you were really 'using' them? That was your intention? And how did you 'compensate' for it? Was the 'compensation' implied, expected or demanded of you from your friend once they had helped you out? Just curious..


I bet people must be lining up to be friends with some of you guys... :rolleyes:

Sorry Bijou

This is not one of VV's "friends."

This is a guy she "used" to get something done for her benefit.

All you have to do is read her story, it's in plain english.
 

teejay69

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Learn to Read

Please close this thread VV.

It is quite annoying to see how people twist plain English and how people cannot read.

(1) How is hanging a light using someone? She offered to pay the guy for fuck sakes. It was a favor.
(2) There was never a pre-defined agreement - just the guy assuming he would get a bj from doing something extra. The guy never stated up front - "I will do this panel if can give me a bj."
(3) I doubt the guy would offer to do the same "free stuff" for a male friend so in fact - he took advantage of VV's occupation. If he did the same electrical favor for his mom or sister - would he ask them for a bj too?
(4) Just because she is an SP - it does not mean she must barter services for favors. VV can help in other ways like babysitting a pet or lending a hand when moving.
 

anyho

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If I can weigh in, without reading all of the previous. I suggest that a favour, by its very definition, is given without expecting anything in return. The reward is the great feeling you get because you have the ability to do something kind for someone else -- perhaps something they couldn't do for themselves.

If you feel that someone is taking advantage of your generosity, you have the ability to say no, but don't expect something in return for a favour. Take pride in the fact that you were able to bestow it and that someone else felt close enough to you to ask you for it.
 

Gator

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Lesson learned, next time just accept her to "pay you for your time", turn around, hand it back and ask "how much for a bj?"

problem solved:D
 

SeekSteadyRegSP

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Sorry, it is not the same. Yes, it is rude for anyone in my personal life to demand or expect any type of sexual favors, because they have accepted to do me a favor... and no, this is not in any way the same thing as someone asking/paying for services where everything is clear between both people as to what the expectations are.
Wake up, toots, and join the relevant discussion.

Nobody either "demanded" or "expected" any type of sexual favors.

Someone merely asked, and was declined, each of his/her own free will.

Not only IS it "the same thing as someone asking", it IS someone asking...

The vastly inappropriate behavior, all on the part of VV, was her berating her supposed "friend" both to his face and in front of all of us.

Why is that so difficult for you to comprehend?
 

SeekSteadyRegSP

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What (s)he did is rude. Period.

If you ask a friend for a favor, they can accept or they can refuse. Simple as that.


She could have accepted it as an exchange of services , or turned it down...

in the world of decent people, a favor is something you do out of kindness...

That is exactly what is wrong with people. It's always about what you can get out of any situation , otherwise it's not worth it.

How about the satisfaction of knowing you helped out a friend?

How about knowing you have someone to count on when you're in a position where you need some help?
These are all fine points, except for the one where he could count on her, but thanks for your input just the same.
 
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