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~Review Board Culture~

Abby Ryds

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As part of the ongoing effort to clean up the board, we have edited and even deleted posts with truly misogynistic content. You can say less than flattering things in a diplomatic way. You can politely raise questions of hygiene for example without mentioning a fish market (actual edit done to a post in the past month). We have also deleted posts and banned reviewers for encouraging fake bookings, inciting violence and other ridiculous things. I have also had to inform some ladies that we would not be deleting honest negative reviews, claiming poor service or bait and switch is not in and of itself rude or demeaning, if it is done correctly. We are striving to be one of the rare ones, a review board that treats ladies and pooners alike fairly and equitably. We won't be perfect, perfection is unattainable, but will will work towards it and always try to improve. Keep flagging the posts and we will keep on the quest.
There are actually humans trying to recruit folks and think up new ways to book fake appointments? Man alive. Cherry ontop or what?
 

Abby Ryds

I'm here to please u
Oct 15, 2018
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Burnaby

This is another perspective...

https://www.mssiennacharles.com/blog/review-culture

I prefer when I can hear both sides of the Story !

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?269636-VIP-Chloe-misleading-photos

Different Ladies interactions on the Board, have significantly influenced whether I felt they might be a good Fit, for what I'm looking for in a Woman !

There are Pros & Cons to everything in Life for sure .

PERB has helped Me avoid, some of the potential Pitfalls, of which I'm gratefully appreciative !

As the Mod acknowledged, nothing is Perfect .

But, this Entertainment is too expensive, to rely on "Trial & Error" alone !

Just my 2Cents...

Cheers
Escort marketing is designed to alienate the wrong type of clients to quote a wise S/P.
I manage to get beyond my wildest dreams right for me clients. For this I am very grateful
 

Abby Ryds

I'm here to please u
Oct 15, 2018
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Burnaby
Definitely cannot give a five star Stellar service if your client is vial and makes you want to vomit. Best to avoid those people.
Chasing the mighty dollar stops looking like success if you have to abandon yourself to do it.
 
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rlock

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I really don't think that there is such a thing as "review board culture", just like I don't think there's such a thing as "rape culture", "toxic masculinity", "gamer culture", "Leafs Nation", etc.

It rings false with me each time a new buzzword is added to describe what all these things boil down to: the shitty side of human nature - or put another way, the fact that out of any group of humans, some of them are just shitty.

PERB definitely has some shitty people on it, but mostly normal. Even some SP's on the board can be bad seeds. What can a person do, other than keep a watchful eye out for bullshit, and remember that some people are just irredeemably fucked in the head ?

You can find the same on Twitter, or any other place where online commentary is allowed. (Have you ever read the comments section on Youtube videos? Ugh.)

Yes, there is definitely a problem with society, especially online. The assholes have the power to act like assholes and mostly get away with it. Some assholes pose as activists for whatever deranged & marginal ideology they're pushing, because that gives them an excuse to inflict their egos on others. If the majority are nauseated by their antics, that only makes the scum feel some sort of ego validation.


Bottom line for me is: There is no "review board culture", and if there is, it isn't defined solely by a minority of malignant ass-clowns. Most of us are here to find or to give useful information, not to buff our egos at someone's expense.


I try to provide useful info about what an SP is like, and what they do. But I've learned over time to be more minimalist, especially if the SP's doesn't want an explicit review. I don't do number ratings, because it is crude and so YMMV anyway that it's meaningless.
This is all just a personal choice.


I understand why some SP's would have a love/hate feeling towards review boards like this. They want the customers and the reputation that brings them in, but there are some people they would never want as customers and those people post too. Being judged is unavoidable, but it also works both ways. (I think the board also helps the SP's screen out creeps and pass info about dangerous clients, does it not? We all want to avoid danger and disappointment, as someone pointed out already.)


There are actually humans trying to recruit folks and think up new ways to book fake appointments? Man alive. Cherry ontop or what?

Oh, I'm never surprised anymore how easy it is to summon up a mob of online goons to do something nefarious.

I do not understand some people, like those who do this. Except in the sense that I think some people need to get a life instead of fucking with someone else's.
 
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badbadboy

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Bottom line for me is: There is no "review board culture", and if there is, it isn't defined solely by a minority of malignant ass-clowns. Most of us are here to find or to give useful information, not to buff our egos at someone's expense.
In a nutshell this is what I have noticed too. Seems the ones who cause the most disturbing shit are a small minority yet get the most attention.

By and large, most guys are here to share intel, read and write reviews as a way of sharing. Majority of SP's here are promoting their business yet stay out of the lounge. It would be a real positive if there were more female perspectives added.
 

Miss Hunter

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Aug 30, 2013
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Ok perhaps “review board culture” isn’t the best term to use.

How about ...Review Board Community?

I’m not a millennial or an English major.. I don’t think too deeply into the terms I use.

What I was trying to say is I’m fully supportive of this site being used to share information. Used in a positive light, it can help keep both sides safe.
 

Miss Hunter

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Not saying it’s the only way for an sp to do business. There’s many who are successful without participating here.
Everyone is free to conduct their business in the way they choose. For example, I haven’t gone the conventional path with using pro-pics or a website.

Whatever works for someone. There’s different paths we can take to achieve our goals.
 

rlock

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Mostly I agree with your OP. Review boards are useful. Saved me from many potential mistakes, definitely. But I worry when being on PERB is viewed by some ladies as a negative on any client, rather than an opportunity for them advertise & to also gather & share information.
 

Abby Ryds

I'm here to please u
Oct 15, 2018
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There are many viciously misogynistic guys here and on Twitter.
Some women come across badly too, but I think the women as a group have more to fear from badly behaved men than vice versa.
A guy might think it is a disaster if he has a subpar experience and is out a few hundred bucks. A woman has a lot more to be concerned about. Violent clients. Creepy time wasters like Bill who has been pulling his act for fifteen years. Petty vindictive clients who out women to their hotel. Guys who disregard everything in a woman’s ad about contact protocol and screening.
Boards are generally helpful but they have enabled a lot of abuse. Easy to see why some women hate them.

As always ymmv.
I don't hate men. I love men. I had to be solution based so I made deposits nessesary. People do not like them. Bad for business? Actually no. Not for me. Are all of my review bad for business? No. The opposite. But now that I have been here a while it saddens me deeply to see the bullying and witness the criticism that has the ability to not only destroy a woman's emotional well being but also her financial well being.
I am a lucky. I know this. Are there good people here? Hell yes!
But I cannot ethically sit quiet and not stand up for what I believe is right. I don't like bullies. Hate is hate. You hate women yet employ their services only to drag her through the mud and laugh in a public form? Makes no sense. Yes protecting each other is vital but if we keep stigmatizing the industry then how can we improve it?
Everyone is a critic until they are criticized.
 
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sybian

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I don't hate men. I love men. I had to be solution based so I made deposits nessesary. People do not like them. Bad for business? Actually no. Not for me. Are all of my review bad for business? No. The opposite. But now that I have been here a while it saddens me deeply to see the bullying and witness the criticism that has the ability to not only destroy a woman's emotional well being but also her financial well being.
I am a lucky. I know this. Are there good people here? Hell yes!
But I cannot ethically sit quiet and not stand up for what I believe is right. I don't like bullies. Hate is hate. You hate women yet employ their services only to drag her through the mud and laugh in a public form? Makes no sense. Yes protecting each other is vital but if we keep stigmatizing the industry then how can we improve it?
Everyone is a critic until they are criticized.
Funny, or sad thing about a keyboard is unlike real life....it enables almost anyone to be an anonymous asshole.
Until someone steps in, like the Mods, or another member.
Criticizing can be done with some taste, decorum, and honesty.
If you think you can say whatever,to whomever you want....sit back and think if you where in a social setting, like a Bar, and started talking like that...what might happen?
You might word it in such a way that people may listen....or are you wording it in a way ,that risks you picking up your own teeth off the floor.
 

GQ1

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Review boards are generally negative to SP's (link below). As ddcanz once stated, there are "ugly males" in this business, whether on or off these boards. I feel they do protect SP's somewhat, but they can also be downright atrocious to them. Also, I'm not sure how valuable they are for providing "intel", as this is a YMMV business - ideas of beauty and good service differ. It is as a medium for detecting and sharing scams that they shine. I would like to add, that the most arrogance and misogyny I have encountered has been on the Van Perb, and I have lived and participated on review boards in Montreal, Toronto, Calgary, Vancouver and Victoria - they joys of not being tied down to a nagging hag.

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/exkkm7/we-spoke-a-sex-industry-hobbyist-the-worst-kind-of-john

Another interesting link, not too far off topic:

http://www.texasgoldengirl.com/afterhours/no-indian-clients/
 

westwoody

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Second link ^ should be required reading.

A lot of guys have entitlement issues.
 

Miss Hunter

ProSwitch
Aug 30, 2013
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Second link ^ should be required reading.

A lot of guys have entitlement issues.


This paragraph sums it up perfectly

"Escorts who still follow what I say, let me tell you this: turn down any client you want for any reason you want. And if you turn down all clients from a certain group because it makes you a happier person in your life or safer in your work, then do it. The men will not suffer, I promise you. Your suffering is not worth the money and certainly not worth their orgasm. Your body, your choice, and I no longer care one single bit how much you’ve “examined” your choices or not. Your business, your body, your choice."
http://www.texasgoldengirl.com/afterhours/no-indian-clients/
 

AvaMarie

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I do not mind review boards at all, and have met lots of lovely souls off of perb. That being said, this only stands when there is respect and courtesy present 100% of the time. There are some posters that I would not see simply because of the way I’ve seen them talk about other providers.
 

lostviking

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This paragraph sums it up perfectly

"Escorts who still follow what I say, let me tell you this: turn down any client you want for any reason you want. And if you turn down all clients from a certain group because it makes you a happier person in your life or safer in your work, then do it. The men will not suffer, I promise you. Your suffering is not worth the money and certainly not worth their orgasm. Your body, your choice, and I no longer care one single bit how much you’ve “examined” your choices or not. Your business, your body, your choice."
http://www.texasgoldengirl.com/afterhours/no-indian-clients/
What an excellent article,very informative and well written. If a lady refuses your business then just move on. On twitter I see a lot of denied clients get very abusive when being denied.I have never seen a denied client write something like " thank you for your time, I respect your decision. Hopefully you will be able to see me in the future. If there is something I can do enhance my chances of seeing you in the future? " Instead of thinking the lady has a life: doctor appointment, she's ill , needs more than 10 min notice ect.. the conversation turns to instant aggression. Many times she isn't even given the opportunity to give a reason (not that she needs too)
 

hedgeman

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What an excellent article,very informative and well written. If a lady refuses your business then just move on. On twitter I see a lot of denied clients get very abusive when being denied.I have never seen a denied client write something like " thank you for your time, I respect your decision. Hopefully you will be able to see me in the future. If there is something I can do enhance my chances of seeing you in the future? " Instead of thinking the lady has a life: doctor appointment, she's ill , needs more than 10 min notice ect.. the conversation turns to instant aggression. Many times she isn't even given the opportunity to give a reason (not that she needs too)
There are some Sp's who are abusive to clients or prospective as well, sometimes for the simple reason of they didn't like the person's initial text etc,go off on them and threaten to out them just as petty retaliation, and in most cases do so, on social media platfoms, There is bad and abusive behavior on both sides of the fence. Both sides can be blamed for things that happen. Best case is read the sp's website or ad comepletely, contact them how they wish to be contacted with what you want to know if it isn't on their ad or site. And ladies, don't be so fast to fly off the handle unless it's pretty blatant the client did not read you ad or site. It's pretty easy to avoid bad situations if people on both sides use a little common sense and breathe before replying
 

lukom

Bobs and Vagenes Poacher
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There are some Sp's who are abusive to clients or prospective as well, sometimes for the simple reason of they didn't like the person's initial text etc,go off on them and threaten to out them just as petty retaliation, and in most cases do so, on social media platfoms, There is bad and abusive behavior on both sides of the fence. Both sides can be blamed for things that happen. Best case is read the sp's website or ad comepletely, contact them how they wish to be contacted with what you want to know if it isn't on their ad or site. And ladies, don't be so fast to fly off the handle unless it's pretty blatant the client did not read you ad or site. It's pretty easy to avoid bad situations if people on both sides use a little common sense and breathe before replying
I fully agree with you. I had an SP tell me off and told me to learn to read an ad. I sent her the link to LL I was reading. She then told me to fuck off. Upon further investigation after that I found that there were other ads on LL that had some of the info that I was inquiring about, but still no need for her to be rude, especially if the error was on her part by posting an ad with no info.
 

ddcanz

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I fully agree with you. I had an SP tell me off and told me to learn to read an ad. I sent her the link to LL I was reading. She then told me to fuck off. Upon further investigation after that I found that there were other ads on LL that had some of the info that I was inquiring about, but still no need for her to be rude, especially if the error was on her part by posting an ad with no info.
Give me an "A"...…..
 
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