References Please on Two Pro Doms

[submissive_one]

Wow, now that is something. I see threats being made to members of this board by a male dom!!! What is going on around here???

If you want them to succeed, show respect for the gentleman that will spend thousands on them and worship them like Goddesses.

 

[ShyCourage]

Navarre you are either a has been or a dummy yourself. Why? No to many people hangout in Alt.com anymore.

Secondly who is threatening whom when you reread what I said I do have a few very powerful friends in this Lifestyle who get upset if you tried to gossip about me.

Even this thread when it was posted no one responded positve in anyway but responded that they had the run in with Mistress Eva and Mistress Savannah and shared that as well.

If you were any kind of Dom yourself you would have responded to this thread a hell of a lot earlier. Course if your and old age pensioner at 48 probably lying about his age there. Oh maybe your the strong silent type who has to prove himself worth of being a Dom by standing up writing such garbage.

As far as I am concerned sit on it and rotate.

shy

 

[stevey d.]

Goodness..

A long time reader/lurker on this site.. who apologetically has not contributed too much to this board over the years, I figure perhaps I can a provide a bit of an opinion to this thread.
I'm not going to try and infer anything of anyone, because I dont know most of you.
I do not play publicly, but have seen most of the more prominent dommes in vancouver.

My experience with the subject matter in the original post also did start with Ms.Claret on collarme me. I found it unacceptable. It consisted of a few lines which suggested I pay 250 large for an interview. I decided to pass.

I discovered Mistress Eva Domme on pandemos and contacted her through her website, filling out her form. I didnt put the two (ms.claret) together until I read this thread.
Received an email the same day with a phone number and had a pleasant conversation. No spidey senses or alarm bells for me at that point. I think most peoples' gut will give them a pretty good assessment at that stage.

Was then requested to send a detailed email of my ideas for the session, and then a date was booked. They day of the session, I received emails with the instructions.She seemed really concerned about the nuances of my fantasy.

The session was as good and intense as a professional setting and one hour would allow. I must say they are in better shape the most of the general population. Mistress Savannah is prob. also stronger than most dudes on here..
Their attire was very detailed and thoughtful, which really helped the fantasy.
Beyond that their physical location was really different from all other professionals I have had the chance to play with. I mean the house itself was super upscale and they use the outdoors as well. That experience is hard to replicate with an apartment sized city dungeon. If you wanted to get tied to a tree and raped in the city, it prob. would not be pretend.

The days after the session, there was some emails.. and my sales experience tells me such is good practice to get someone to book again,but it was still thoughtful, nice and well.. professional.
Oh yeah.. no interview fee. Session started as soon as I walked in the door.. envelope with tribute etc.. the typical routine.

So thats it folks.. Sorry for the bland review.. I didnt want to write a boner inducing review in the middle of this unique thread. But solely based on my experience, I'd say if you want an unique experience.. I'd contact these ladies with the same courtesy and expectations you would of any professional dominatrix. Use your common sense and for the pooners, your pooner sense when judging the response.
YMMV, you should have a pretty fun time.

S

 

[Aeiyah]

Full of shit is someone who plays and pretends to be something they're clearly not...

I will not lower myself to pedantic name calling for those of less intelligence and challenge abilities, for that you have the floor...

Master Navarre

I spent yesterday evening with a handful of fellow kinksters, some I've known for years, some I've just met. It was ironic that one of the topics of discussion was pretentious self annointed tops who give themselves titles. Actions rather than meaningless titles are a measure of abilities. Every single person I was with who enjoys bottoming said they would not play with the self-annointed "Masters" who are more interested in their self-enjoyment rather than ensuring the bottom is safe and deriving pleasure the experience.

 

[sub882]

for those of less intelligence and challenge abilities...

I think you mean... "for those of less intelligence and challenged abilities"

A typo in the midst of pomposity. I love it!

 

[ShyCourage]

lady pleaaaaaase....

I have checked alt and cannot find shy courage aka Wonder Dummy...
and truth be known that is really irrelevant now as shycourage is threatening both Mistress Savannah and Mistress Eva... and I quote" furthermore I watch who you talk to about me you might get your head ripped off."

You want to stand and support this lunatic that's your choice, just remember karma is a bitch and the universe is amazing at dishing her brand of justice...

I do not support nor condone any man sub or otherwise threatening women, there has been far to much of that and we've come to far to allow it or tolerate it!

if you want to debate facts then have the decency and demonstrate some intelligence by including facts, not availed innuendo and baseless claims. You may not like me, my comments or assessment of how shycourage has conducted himself, however facts are facts!

As for those that know shy... I doubt he will enjoy the response he'll receive. Most if not all of us in the scene do not come her for debate or conversation.

Full of shit is someone who plays and pretends to be something they're clearly not... for a dollar you'll be whatever I want you to be... So we have established what you are and what that makes you... the only difference your price, what do you know about being a full time Professional Dominatrix? and I don't see Mistress in front of your name either... So please... make an effort and do better!

I will not lower myself to pedantic name calling for those of less intelligence and challenge abilities, for that you have the floor...

Master Navarre

To think someone is so dum as to write this about others especially by saying for a dollar now that is selling someone very short

I have reread Navarre thread very threatening in the way it comes across. Also misleading in alot of areas. When I asked for references Mistress Savannah and Mistress Eva both refused and got PO'd insteaf of directing me to the other so called website. Alt.com was mentioned funny this two have not been in any open group chat over the last 4 years to my knowledge or some of the others locals outside the area as in Florida or Washington and other States.

Yes I did check the protocal about being told to bring floggers nipple clamps and any other form of token which is actually a tribute to prove their willingness to submit. Hide behind the saying they asked for gifts is bullshit.

Secondly I wish I could find the quality of leather and cheaper handles, the time spent cutting painting for less than 25 bucks. Obviously this Dumb ass so Called Master has not idea of the true cost in making a flogger let alone probably using one.

shy

It came on as a mystery in that are this two Mistresses are hiding something in their past. As for Navarre I see him as an overbearing pompus asshole who I state again is only out to impress the Ladies. Then takes pot shots at others who are more open and out in the community which he is not.

shy

 

[uncleg]

Navarre you are either a has been or a dummy yourself. Why? No to many people hangout in Alt.com anymore.

Secondly who is threatening whom when you reread what I said I do have a few very powerful friends in this Lifestyle who get upset if you tried to gossip about me.

Even this thread when it was posted no one responded positve in anyway but responded that they had the run in with Mistress Eva and Mistress Savannah and shared that as well.

If you were any kind of Dom yourself you would have responded to this thread a hell of a lot earlier. Course if your and old age pensioner at 48 probably lying about his age there. Oh maybe your the strong silent type who has to prove himself worth of being a Dom by standing up writing such garbage.

As far as I am concerned sit on it and rotate.

shy

I spent yesterday evening with a handful of fellow kinksters, some I've known for years, some I've just met. It was ironic that one of the topics of discussion was pretentious self annointed tops who give themselves titles. Actions rather than meaningless titles are a measure of abilities. Every single person I was with who enjoys bottoming said they would not play with the self-annointed "Masters" who are more interested in their self-enjoyment rather than ensuring the bottom is safe and deriving pleasure the experience.

Shy, just because you are pissed at Master N doesn't mean you have to diss old age pensioners, or folks over 48. Have some respect for experience.

Aeiyah, Considering when he joined Perb, I think he was probably given permission by his Mistresses to call himself Master in the course of defending them. So don't be too hard on him, subs being permitted to play Master sometimes tend to go over the top.

 

[ShyCourage]

I love to make floggers and give to others freely becuase I like to see other feel special. When someone abuses my talent in requesting I bring them floggers as a sign of my submission turns me off and I would rather charge the person for my time and effort. After all are they out for themselves and want others to pay yet not willing to pay for themselves when asking for something from others.


After all if your a Pro Domme don't you want to get paid for your time spent. Do you appreciate how others will come back and slam your work and time spent by trying to cut you down who really had nothing to do with the encounter.

I have given away, sold a lot of floggers as well as other toys such as 5/8" rubber pure rubber paddles and have people come back saying they love using my toys.

shy

 

[slaveboysmith]

Weighing in with my two cents

This is my first review on this forum and it comes after reading some very negative comments being made about two lovely Mistresses with whom I shared a wonderful session about a month ago.

In every way Mistress Savannah and Mistress Eva were exactly as they represented themselves. They were completely professional, perfectly seductive and in every way friendly and in control. I simply can’t think of a single negative thing to say about my session, which is why I was alarmed to read what is being said about them on this forum. What is more concerning is that the person instigating this negativity has not even experienced a session and yet they are passing themselves off as knowing the real Eva and Savannah.

From what I have read this person’s main complaints seem to centre around the interview fee, the cost of a session and the level of professionalism shown by the Mistresses in his dealings with them. I can’t comment on the alleged interview fee as it wasn’t something I experienced. As for the cost of a session, at first $400 for one hour seems expensive but when you do some comparing to other dominatrixes in the Vancouver area who charge upwards of $250 or more per hour for ONE Mistress and who don’t have nearly the amazing dungeon setup, the rate charged by Mistress Eva and Mistress Savannah is more than reasonable and worth every penny. As for their professionalism, both Mistresses were total professionals, while at the same time passionate about what they do. I loved every second of my session and cannot wait to do it again.

Anyone wishing to experience true sensual domination at the hands of two stunning dominatrixes need look no further than Mistress Eva and Mistress Savannah. Don’t let the rantings of one person dissuade you. Decide for yourself after you experience a session that is truly erotic and everything you’ve fantasized about.

 

[mistressfreyja]

Hokey

That's all I need to write.

This whole thing is hokey.

While I have no doubt that these two women have a kick-ass place, their reputation in the community has not been established. Nobody knows them.

I remember being a young domme, and 'requiring' toys for a meeting (wayyyy before going pro). That was all it was...trying to accumulate stuff cuz I was new. Now, I just ask for my donation and some respect...like any business transaction. I go buy my own toys.

So, maybe the lovely women should come and advertise/fight their own battles?? Or maybe they already are.

Just my two cents.

 

[mistressfreyja]

PS: ShyC

I love the flogger that you GAVE me...that I did not solicit.

Thank-you. I use it frequently.

Hugs.

 

[Aeiyah]

I love the flogger that you GAVE me...that I did not solicit.

Thank-you. I use it frequently.

Hugs.

I will expect a review of the flogger, just to be sure that you, Shy Courage and the flogger are indeed real.

You can smack me upside the head for being a cheeky bastard, since I have no doubt that SC and Mistress Freyja are who they say there are even though I've never met either.

 

[slaveboysmith]

With all due respect Mistress Freyja

"This whole thing is hokey".

The part where shycourage passes judgement on two women he's never sessioned with? Or the part where anyone who posts positive encounters with them is discounted as being biased?

"While I have no doubt that these two women have a kick-ass place, their reputation in the community has not been established. Nobody knows them".

I know them and have experienced what they have to offer. It's amazing.

"So, maybe the lovely women should come and advertise/fight their own battles?? Or maybe they already are".

Why do they have to fight any battle at all? This person who doesn't know what they have to offer is posting all kinds of derogatory comments. He's playing the part of the guy standing outside the restaurant telling everyone not to go in because the food is terrible when he's never even eaten there. He asked for references and they're coming out now. And it seems the positive ones aren't being well received. Curious isn't it?

 

[edmontonsubbie]

nothing "curious" about it...

....this is a fun little community of Tops and bottoms who exchange information and ideas...much the same as I am sure occurs on those more "venerated" communities such as alt and whateverthatotheronewascalled.

I am sure these Dommes are wonderful and provide an amazing experience. I suppose the only hesitation here is that there have been no reviews from anyone with more than a post or two....nor has there been any interaction between them and some of the established Dommes that frequent this board. I dislike the word..."shill"...but...you can, I am sure, understand the reluctance to accept a well written review at its face value.

If they don't feel that Perb is a good use for their advertising dollar....so be it. Who can argue? It's their advert money. But, don't expect a free ride without converting a longer term poster or two....or even have one of the cool Mistress's give it a wink and a nudge and say..."oh yeah, that's some hot stuff". I've seen them do that in the past, and I'm sure there would be no hesitation to do so again.

I have WAY better things to do....like, sleep.

most respectful regards,

tired eddie.

p.s. when will this thread die and be replaced by either the people directly involved...or just die....this puppy is almost loungeworthy.

 

[Aeiyah]

People can say whatever they want. Some are more credible than others. In the end, each individual is responsible for deciding for themselves who's review is more credible. Me, I'm inclined to side with a poster who several advertisers have met personally over a sock puppet.

 

[ShyCourage]

I am glad to hear that others have gone and seen Mistress Eva and Mistress Savannah and made it back unharmed. It was a RISK I was not willing to make in booking a session with them. It could have been a big dream come true, still on the other hand it could have been the worst nightmare I ever made with two sadist pyschopaths.

Mistress Freyja you made yourself know to the community, came highly recommend by a friend which is two things these two Dommes didn't. You were up front with me from the start knowing that there was a tribute, and expected nothing from me when I gave you a flogger it was given from me. Where as Mistress Eva and Mistress Savannah instructed me to go to Piappes and buy two floggers along with nipple clamps until I mentioned I make my own floggers, and was curious as to why I needed to bring nipple clamps to an interview. Besides Mistress Freyja your not the only one who has recieved a flogger from me without being instructed to give them one.

What also struck me as odd is they didn't want nothing to do with the local community but still wanted to get the local community to come to them. This in a way means they are hiding something. Also because someone spends alot of money setting up and elite well equipped dungeon does that make them a true Dominant.

 

[mistressfreyja]

ShyC:

You are good people.

I don't need to defend the quality of your gift. The fact that I use it regularily is credence enough.

You were referred to ME, by good people.

You've made yourself known in a really tough community. You've TAUGHT some of the key-players that I know. A lot of people respect you, and love you. And that's all that ever really matters.

Let's let this thread die. This will be my last post. But gosh-darn if I wasn't going to let Shy know he is welcome here.