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masterblaster

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An electrical emergency alert was declared in Alberta last night as cold temperatures pushed electrical demand to a record high. Seems that solar panels and wind farms weren’t quite up to the task. What a surprise.
 

Lo-ki

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Check your closet..:)
Call Greta....I am sure she can come up with a solution....
 

masterblaster

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She’s full of hot air but don’t think it would make a difference with this cold weather.
 

JimDandy

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If there are any chilled ladies in Alberta needing to warm up. I have room for one or two lovely ladies to share my bed and I promise to keep them warm (and entertained) :)

JD
 

overdone

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We have lots of Hydro electricity to sell to Alberta and Sask. for that matter. Just need a Western power grid.
maybe when you get rid of your HYPOCRITE PROVINCIAL GOV'T

the one who is telling the Natives that the pipeline he likes has all it's permits, has all the bands along the way signed up, it's going through no matter what

unlike the same one farther south with all the same conditions, approved, native groups signed up, ect....


you know the line, little LNG plant is going to blow your emissions out of the water right? lol

not that they're going down anyway, lol

or don't you believe your own gov't numbers? lol

the enviro groups do



it would be political suicide to buy power from BC in Alberta

dream on

plus we have enough NG, we'll never need to
 

masterblaster

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maybe when you get rid of your HYPOCRITE PROVINCIAL GOV'T

the one who is telling the Natives that the pipeline he likes has all it's permits, has all the bands along the way signed up, it's going through no matter what

unlike the same one farther south with all the same conditions, approved, native groups signed up, ect....


you know the line, little LNG plant is going to blow your emissions out of the water right? lol

not that they're going down anyway, lol

or don't you believe your own gov't numbers? lol

the enviro groups do



it would be political suicide to buy power from BC in Alberta

dream on

plus we have enough NG, we'll never need to
I might be wrong here but I think mr bodine is from Manitoba
 

Lo-ki

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Check your closet..:)
I am guessing all the solar panels and wind mills are working overtime.....NOT....
 

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Some new furnaces run on electricity, plus we recharge several items a day (phones), more things run on vampire power (TV, radios - all that need a remote control, but still plugged into wall and uses electricity). Electric Cars (batteries don't work that well in the cold). More population. People using portable electric heaters in houses/offices that have cooler rooms. Most older government buildings have drafts (due to maintenance and design issues etc)
 

Johnnydarkdoe

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An electrical emergency alert was declared in Alberta last night as cold temperatures pushed electrical demand to a record high. Seems that solar panels and wind farms weren’t quite up to the task. What a surprise.
So, what you’re saying is we need to build more solar and wind plants to meet the energy demands created by climate change, which is caused by relying on fossil fuels instead of investing in renewable energy?
 

masterblaster

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So, what you’re saying is we need to build more solar and wind plants to meet the energy demands created by climate change, which is caused by relying on fossil fuels instead of investing in renewable energy?
No what I’m saying is it’s foolhardy to think that solar power and wind farms aren’t up to the task to provide the necessary electricity required. I was under the impression climate change was supposed to make the weather warmer not end up in a deep freeze. I think there’s a disconnect somewhere.
 

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No what I’m saying is it’s foolhardy to think that solar power and wind farms aren’t up to the task to provide the necessary electricity required. I was under the impression climate change was supposed to make the weather warmer not end up in a deep freeze. I think there’s a disconnect somewhere.
The global average temperature goes up, with higher volatility which means more extreme temperatures at different parts of the world. There is no disconnect.
 

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Call Greta....I am sure she can come up with a solution....
That's like saying the person pulling the fire alarm when the building is on fire, should be the one to figure out how to put out the fire. Come on people.
 

masterblaster

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The global average temperature goes up, with higher volatility which means more extreme temperatures at different parts of the world. There is no disconnect.
I see. The global average temperature goes up so we’re having record cold temperatures. That makes no sense but people believe what they believe, regardless of the evidence.
 

overdone

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So pray tell, how many household appliances, T.Vs., lights, computers, telephones, etc., do you guys have that
run on natural gas ???
they run on electricity, which in Alberta, most of the world is produced by coal/NG/Oil, in general, 85% of the world production is still using them

in Alberta, during the cold snap, 95%

https://edmontonjournal.com/business/local-business/david-staples-16

here's a highlight from it

"On Tuesday, with a daytime high of -30 C, the Reliable Energy twitter account, which tracks Alberta’s sources of electrical power generation, reported: “At this moment 95.44% of Alberta’s electricity is being produced by fossil fuels. Wind is at 2.98% of capacity and producing 0.51% of total generation, while solar is at 0.00% of capacity and producing 0.000% of total generation"

read the part about reductions in emissions, it applies to Ont, which got rid of coal, the U.S., with fracking

as well as what we're doing in AB, that's where the little in reductions are coming from

not Unicorn farts and windmills and solar

we don't have the scale for either to make a difference, nor the tech to store electricity, which is the real problem, always has been





I might be wrong here but I think mr bodine is from Manitoba
just assumed he was from BC, lol

just like all those from BC, assume everyone else is from there too, lol



Well, you always have the option to let yourselves freeze in the dark.

we'll never freeze in the dark, for fucksakes, you really don't know much about AB and the oil and gas industry do you :noidea:

we have enough oil and gas, not to mention coal to last for 100's of yrs if need be

we'll be fine, you should worry when we cut you all off

from our resources and money, lol





So, what you’re saying is we need to build more solar and wind plants to meet the energy demands created by climate change, which is caused by relying on fossil fuels instead of investing in renewable energy?
dream on, the world will never be able to build enough solar and wind plants to meet demand

1/3 rd of the world in still in the dark and poor

even major developed cities/countries will not be able to meet their demands through solar and wind

if they could, it would have already happened

it's not there on scale

it's called physics, math, common sense

reality


where do you think all the lithium is going to come from?

and it has no issues, environmentally, emissions? right?

not to mention all the precious metals, involved? right?

then recycling those new type of batteries? right?

all the steel, aluminum needed for windmills? right?

nor the life cycles of these new type of generators? right?

everything has a price, pro/cons, no one is talking about those

they're too busy being superficial like Greta/Turdeau/Gore

again, reality, we aren't there yet

if we were, emissions would be going down, they aren't

cause you can't keep adding to the herd

it's either less demand, ie less people

or make people so poor they can't afford anything

or new tech

WHICH WE DON'T HAVE ON SCALE TO MEET DEMAND
 

Johnnydarkdoe

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The dream is thinking we can go on with business as usual while Australia is burning, BC will be burning in 3 months, Tonga is sinking, all the reefs are dead, Greenland is melting and California is parched. Everyone else is doing whatever they can trying to slow down all of this and not even stop it, because there is no stopping it anymore. We will keep on making batteries that hold more charge with new materials (who says lithium is the only solution?) and collecting the energy from the largest generator of energy in our solar system just to hold off the inevitable Mad Max scenario we are careening towards.
 
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