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RANT on leaving early in a session

working-man

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Not enough, if that's all you are drawing the conclusion from. It's you who've been there so you know better: whether something else went wrong in the session, any more clues, etc.
I was really curious about whether OP could have misread cues.
In reality, the shower before you go was mentioned twice. Once before another short round of play near the end and then afterwards. And no, I didn't imagine it. I purposely told her I don't need a shower after the first mention and kept playing and trying to engage the both of them to the very end. I guess she didn't hear me between her talking.

By 1h40m, I was out the door and pressing the elevator button.

Time is money. I don't think it is too much to ask for which I paid.
 
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working-man

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I set my timer to go off 10 minutes before the end of a session. I turn it off and say "that's 10 minutes, so no rush". 99% of the time we are just chatting and cuddling at that point anyways. It's probably way more jarring then asking "would you like to take a shower before you leave?" Maybe I should switch to what the OP's providers did...
TIP for you. I once visited a SP that had set their clock beside the bed 10 minutes early. I thought the session was up and rushed out the door then realized I actually had 10 minutes to spare. Arrrggg!!! haha
 

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In reality, the shower before you go was mentioned twice. Once before another short round of play near the end and then afterwards. And no, I didn't imagine it. I purposely told her I don't need a shower and kept playing and trying to engage the both of them to the very end. I guess she didn't hear me between her talking.

By 1h40m, I was out the door and pressing the elevator button.

Time is money. I don't think it is too much to ask for which I paid.
In that case: I am heartily sorry you felt short changed & undervalued by providers to whom you paid a substantial amount of money for a less than satisfactory experience. That sucks. I know how frustrating it feels to perceive yourself as a valued client & be treated like a shmuck.
 

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I myself is a clock watcher. I never want to make it uncomfortable by staying over time and making the SP kick me out. I've never been in a situation where I felt like I was rushed out. Every time I finished early, the SP's offer me a massage or we just chat for the remainder of the time. I haven't had any bad experiences with well reviewed SPs.
 

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yeah, mine is always a soft-sounding alarm and I MAKE SURE I tell my client that there is 10 minutes left and not to feel rushed!

sorry you got pushed out of your booking with these two ladies. hope your next experience is better! xo

TIP for you. I once visited a SP that had set their clock beside the bed 10 minutes early. I thought the session was up and rushed out the door then realized I actually had 10 minutes to spare. Arrrggg!!! haha
 

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I've always wanted to try a duo with a couple of high end/priced sp's. This thread makes me hesitant.
I've only had 2 sp's that said we have time left and refunded some of the hour. That made me feel as they weren't in it for the money but genuinely valued my "company".
Sorry that the experience wasn't up to expectations
In the end they are all in it for the money, some just don't make it quite so obvious.
 

felixthecat

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Time is money. I don't think it is too much to ask for which I paid.
That is a fair expectation. It is an expensive service by any standards. Being rushed out 20 min early would definitely mean no repeat ever for me, no matter how good the session was in the beginning. Also, I would have no problem leaving a negative review. Which I don't do if I simply don't like the looks or there's no chemistry, but she's doing an honest job.

Other than money, it also destroys any GFE effect. Thinking of that, there's a very low percentage of sessions overall I'd be rushed out, even counting worse sessions and non-GFE providers. Not a normal practice at all.
 

westwoody

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I've always wanted to try a duo with a couple of high end/priced sp's. This thread makes me hesitant.
Do not try it with anyone you have not had several sessions with. If she really knows you she will know your desires and will know how you will interact with women she knows. You must know her well enough to trust her.
Ideally you should know both ladies well before trying both at once.
 

georgej

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Clem's got it right. She's the consummate professional in every aspect of our interactions. Happily, most of my meetings over the years have been great. A few, I've forgotten about.
 

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Seriously?

OP is talking about things that happened while he still had 20 minutes on the clock, not 30 minutes after his session was over. How did you get there?

How I got there, is I have been the SP who had someone knock on a shared in call door to say "Erica! You have to get your client out NOW! I scheduled someone right after you & their client is here, right now, & he is pissed because he has to wait!" NOT how I want to work, but when the person running the in call does it...what choice did I have? I had to rush him out, as politely as I could, after he finished a long shower once his 30 minute appointment was done.

I am just aware that a client who wants it wait until he has 5 minutes left to get up off the bed & writes "I never felt rushed: she wasn't a time waster at all!" may be perceived as "OMG that guy takes SO LONG to leave!" & get himself blacklisted for it.
Again, you are talking about guys going overtime in a thread started by a guy who was shortchanged on time. These are not the same thing.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your intent.You generally seem like a reasonable and intelligent person in every other thread I've seen you post in. Your last line reads to me like I would get blacklisted for staying on the bed until 5 minutes before the session is over even if it would only take me 2 minutes to dress and leave. This is not the impression I have from your other posts.
 

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Again, you are talking about guys going overtime in a thread started by a guy who was shortchanged on time. These are not the same thing.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your intent.You generally seem like a reasonable and intelligent person in every other thread I've seen you post in. Your last line reads to me like I would get blacklisted for staying on the bed until 5 minutes before the session is over even if it would only take me 2 minutes to dress and leave. This is not the impression I have from your other posts.
Thanks for the compliments. Admittedly, I was triggered by a particular set of responses to the thread, trying to get at the heart of the OP's post & see if it was a misreading of cues by them on HIS part & offering hypotheticals from the provider stand point. Playing devil's advocate, if you will. Attempting to educate, maybe, for those who don't know much about how sex work is like synchronized swimming. On the surface it is seamless smiles pretty faces & sleek lines: below the surface all those legs are churning WILDLY so the audience gets a beautiful show. That beautiful show falls completely apart pretty easily though, with one swimmer falling behind...

After OP clarified that he was out & fully dressed after 2 offers of a shower both of which he declined, it would seem like they started trying to move him out the door at around the 1 hr 20 minute mark before HE gave up & left without any more interaction happening & left feeling like it was a less than satisfactory outing. I can only conclude then that EITHER something was terribly off from their perspective, which they should have communicated CLEARLY to him, or they were just disinterested in keeping him engaged enough to have him making plans for next time before he is out the door. If that's the case, he should rewrite a review. It's what the board is for.
 

Ms Erica Phoenix

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Yes that was back in my youth when I was full if piss and vinegar ( young guys might have to look up that ecpression). It was a hotel. She said she was calling security. I said go ahead. She fumed off and came back with her pimp/ manager. I was on the bed, naked, masturbating to Rissoli and Isles I believe. He took one look at me and told her to deal with her own problem. I got the room and she stormed off mad.
LOL oh this story made me laugh!
 
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Yup. And that's why the women don't participate here, despite having to pay for the privilege to do so.
My point was simply that we are paying GREAT money for a fantasy....and it's your job to provide that service. Am I wrong? Thanks for the passive aggressive insult though.
 
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Why do people keep asking and or telling workinman he should write a review. He explicitly stated this was a rant. The intention being, I believe, was to address an issue he sees, along with MANY others apparently, in the sp industry. It's as simple as that.
 

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I set my timer to go off 10 minutes before the end of a session. I turn it off and say "that's 10 minutes, so no rush". 99% of the time we are just chatting and cuddling at that point anyways. It's probably way more jarring then asking "would you like to take a shower before you leave?" Maybe I should switch to what the OP's providers did...
Why don't you put together a few playlists? At the 50, 80, 110 minute or whatever mark, a certain song comes on and that is your cue to windup. The customer is not jarred and everything ends well. The only draw back is if you are enjoying yourself and miss the cue, but then again that's good for both.
 

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I love this idea for most! But honestly, I am a musician and listening to the same music every time would possibly lead me to end my own life. What I've done is turned the alarm way down and used one that blends in with music quite well, so it's not super obvious at first. I tried it out today and honestly I'm not even 100% sure my client noticed.

Why don't you put together a few playlists? At the 50, 80, 110 minute or whatever mark, a certain song comes on and that is your cue to windup. The customer is not jarred and everything ends well. The only draw back is if you are enjoying yourself and miss the cue, but then again that's good for both.
 

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I love this idea for most! But honestly, I am a musician and listening to the same music every time would possibly lead me to end my own life. What I've done is turned the alarm way down and used one that blends in with music quite well, so it's not super obvious at first. I tried it out today and honestly I'm not even 100% sure my client noticed.
If it works, stick with it.
 
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