Racist Woman on London Tram

HankQuinlan

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Write in English with proper sentence structure and punctuation if you don't want to be called on it you ESL wannabe.
Actually, it was written with technically correct sentence structure and punctuation. It was simply that the words strung together as sentences did not make any sense. Kind of like some of the language translation programs.
 

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Actually, it was written with technically correct sentence structure and punctuation. It was simply that the words strung together as sentences did not make any sense. Kind of like some of the language translation programs.
His writing style is almost that of someone faking "Engrish".

Over the years I have supervised many asian co-op students. Many of them new Canadians. Some of course still need work on their written english. I have never seen writing like MH's.

When you consider many of his posts, he likes to take the position, of speaking for all chinese people. Almost always taking a position 90% of people will be against. Has commented many times of our poor education system compared to China. Yet he personally has lived here at least 4-5 years based on join date here. Yet has never bothered looking into a proper english training on a personal level??

Its almost like a white/black/indian man, pretending to be chinese, with the intent of making chinese people look stupid.
 

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Technically correct and proper are somewhat different, as is writing in English versus using words from the English language. As you say in Post #50, communication needs context.
I am certain that he will be very thankful to us both for for our sincere efforts to help him with his written language comprehension and expression. :)
 

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I am certain that he will be very thankful to us both for for our sincere efforts to help him with his written language comprehension and expression. :)
I see. You seem to forget about your whole point in post #43. Your whole point is about a single individual to go against a society in a sense. And my whole point is to tell you why a society is necessary and exists. And the whole context is about that reality! So, what the hell did you talk about in that post? :confused: Correct me if I'm wrong. ;) :)
 

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I see. You seem to forget about your whole point in post #43. Your whole point is about a single individual to go against a society in a sense. And my whole point is to tell you why a society is necessary and exists. And the whole context is about that reality! So, what the hell did you talk about in that post? :confused: Correct me if I'm wrong. ;) :)
We will continue our lesson with some reading comprehension. My post was a reply to someone who claimed that "liberals" are amoral and a threat to society. I found this opinion so ridiculous, that I typed a reply using the voice of someone who agreed with him, citing famous fictional depictions of "liberals" with a conscience who stood up against a conformist majority. Sarcasm is difficult to comprehend for reader of English as a second language. When you do not understand a post, it is better to ignore it, instead of replying in a way that shows no understanding.

And, you expressed a much clearer thought above than you did in your original reply (even though it is still not relevant). That means we are making progress! Keep up the good work! (Warning: my last phrases may also include sarcasm.)
 

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We will continue our lesson with some reading comprehension. My post was a reply to someone who claimed that "liberals" are amoral and a threat to society. I found this opinion so ridiculous, that I typed a reply using the voice of someone who agreed with him, citing famous fictional depictions of "liberals" with a conscience who stood up against a conformist majority. Sarcasm is difficult to comprehend for reader of English as a second language. When you do not understand a post, it is better to ignore it, instead of replying in a way that shows no understanding.

And, you expressed a much clearer thought above than you did in your original reply (even though it is still not relevant). That means we are making progress! Keep up the good work! (Warning: my last phrases may also include sarcasm.)
If there's sarcasm, then why don't you put in some emoticons? For God's sake, we can't see your facial expressions! :mad: This is why emoticons are created, dude. :crazy: Now back to that post #43. Read your fucking final sentence! You tend to imply that socialism is bad. Meaning that you tend to imply that it is bad to have a society!
Go back to school and learn how to use everything that the internet had given you! I tend not to think sarcasm exists when discussing serious issues! So, don't assume everyone thinks that way too. Be specific to your actual meaning! :mad: God, you need to learn how to communicate with different people!
 

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It is a word that is used in extremes and in those instances it is justified as the person it is directed toward is a complete and total POS and whose actions/deeds/words only serve as a barrier to that persons racial background in general.

Perfect example

Without any reserve if I were the owner/driver of that car in the clip I would have only 1 word to decribe that guy and I am sure you can guess what it is.....and it is deserved.


Way back when I lived in the UK the cell phone was the size of a brick and about as heavy and had no camera....if the modern cell phone was around back then as well as the internet then I am pretty sure there would have been a recording of the incident and it would have been posted on the internet with the tagline "black teenager attacks white teenager with pool cue" and I can assure you it would have gone viral for all of the racist words the guy was saying to me.

SR
Now what would have happened if that person in the vehicle backed up and ran over the guy beating the shit out of their car?

Or what would happen if the people on that tram beat that woman up? How would the media report it? Who would be the racist and would it be a hate crime? A lot of valid points made and clearly no real solution in sight, which is sad. Hate breeds hate and I do think her child is going to be exactly like her. Hope I'm wrong.
 

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About 10 years or so ago, I was at a coffee shop with a buddy catching up and an older caucasian man was seated next to us with a couple of his friends. Now this is Vancouver and that was in the midst of one of the many housing booms we've had. He was talking very loudly and making it very clear that if it weren't for the chinese buying up all the property, his kids and grandkids might be able to afford housing in their future and wouldn't have to move out to the burbs. And then he looks over at us and points and says "you people shouldn't be buying everything up and driving up the prices." Now my friend was pretty quick and said, "well, you don't have to sell." The man was a little surprised and said what does that have to do with it? Friend responded that if people weren't so greedy and wanted top dollar by creating bidding wars, they could stay where they were and their house price wouldn't be so unaffordable. Man didn't have much to say after that. One of his friends actually laughed. I had forgotten that until just now. Wonder what he told his kids and grandkids about us chinese people. Hmmm.
 

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About 10 years or so ago, I was at a coffee shop with a buddy catching up and an older caucasian man was seated next to us with a couple of his friends. Now this is Vancouver and that was in the midst of one of the many housing booms we've had. He was talking very loudly and making it very clear that if it weren't for the chinese buying up all the property, his kids and grandkids might be able to afford housing in their future and wouldn't have to move out to the burbs. And then he looks over at us and points and says "you people shouldn't be buying everything up and driving up the prices." Now my friend was pretty quick and said, "well, you don't have to sell." The man was a little surprised and said what does that have to do with it? Friend responded that if people weren't so greedy and wanted top dollar by creating bidding wars, they could stay where they were and their house price wouldn't be so unaffordable. Man didn't have much to say after that. One of his friends actually laughed. I had forgotten that until just now. Wonder what he told his kids and grandkids about us chinese people. Hmmm.
LOL. Great story!
 

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And, you expressed a much clearer thought above than you did in your original reply (even though it is still not relevant). That means we are making progress! Keep up the good work! (Warning: my last phrases may also include sarcasm.)
If there's sarcasm, then why don't you put in some emoticons? For God's sake, we can't see your facial expressions! :mad: This is why emoticons are created, dude. :crazy: Now back to that post #43. Read your fucking final sentence! You tend to imply that socialism is bad. Meaning that you tend to imply that it is bad to have a society!
Go back to school and learn how to use everything that the internet had given you! I tend not to think sarcasm exists when discussing serious issues! So, don't assume everyone thinks that way too. Be specific to your actual meaning! :mad: God, you need to learn how to communicate with different people!
yeah hank, get with the program. william shakespeare and samuel clemens used emoticons all the time...

...is this a dagger i see before me... :fear: :eek:
a gold mine is a hole in the ground, with a liar standing at the top! :mad:
see?
 

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About 10 years or so ago, I was at a coffee shop with a buddy catching up and an older caucasian man was seated next to us with a couple of his friends. Now this is Vancouver and that was in the midst of one of the many housing booms we've had. He was talking very loudly and making it very clear that if it weren't for the chinese buying up all the property, his kids and grandkids might be able to afford housing in their future and wouldn't have to move out to the burbs. And then he looks over at us and points and says "you people shouldn't be buying everything up and driving up the prices." Now my friend was pretty quick and said, "well, you don't have to sell." The man was a little surprised and said what does that have to do with it? Friend responded that if people weren't so greedy and wanted top dollar by creating bidding wars, they could stay where they were and their house price wouldn't be so unaffordable. Man didn't have much to say after that. One of his friends actually laughed. I had forgotten that until just now. Wonder what he told his kids and grandkids about us chinese people. Hmmm.
Hahahahahahahaha! Smarten up, eh. ;)
 

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For some reason, I don't think that those videos were as widely available in the brief period of time between the deaths of Billy Shakespeare & Mark Twain and the advent of YouTube. I'm sure that in the coming years scholars an analysts will be poring over Hank's posts in this thread, publishing monographs and adding footnotes connecting each of his sage comments to relevant passages in classical literature and the film works of the Three Stooges. In the interim, I guess well just have to do our own thinking like folks used to do before the internet. And no, I won't add emoticons to help you sort the irony from the sarcasm.
You have to admit that he understood the sarcasm in your reply, so our lessons are bearing fruit! I don't think I will sign up for one of those emoticon courses, though.

btw -- Are there really experts' notes to explain Mark Twain? Nevermind, I suppose there are for those unfamiliar with the background of the time.

Nyuk nyuk!
 

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Now what would have happened if that person in the vehicle backed up and ran over the guy beating the shit out of their car?

If I were in that situation....and some shitbag crack dealer (I wont use the N word...heaven forfend I piss somebody off) starting trashing my car that I pay for by working a tax paying job...hell I would have either backed over him or pinned the fucker to the car in front with my bumper with enough force to crush his knees.....cops show up...I show them my car and tell them what happened.....one less shitbag crack dealer off the street and I am free to go.

Or what would happen if the people on that tram beat that woman up? How would the media report it? Who would be the racist and would it be a hate crime? A lot of valid points made and clearly no real solution in sight, which is sad. Hate breeds hate and I do think her child is going to be exactly like her. Hope I'm wrong.
Very good points but I would like to add....what would have happened if the driver of the car got out of the car?.....would he have gotten the beating of a lifetime and be left for dead or would that person have pulled out a Glock and put a couple well deserved slugs in that guy.......many years ago a white guy was attacked by 4-5 black youths on the New York subway....he pulled a pistol and shot them...leaving all but 1 dead....and the guy that lived caught the bullet in his spine and was a parapalegic....he sued the guy that shot him and won....pretty fucked up I think.

As for the woman in the tram.....if she was attacked.....what if she did something similar?....pretty slim though as gun ownership in the UK is tightly controlled by the government.....anybody that has possesion of a handgun is a criminal as the gun laws dont even allow citizens to own them legally.

About 10 years or so ago, I was at a coffee shop with a buddy catching up and an older caucasian man was seated next to us with a couple of his friends. Now this is Vancouver and that was in the midst of one of the many housing booms we've had. He was talking very loudly and making it very clear that if it weren't for the chinese buying up all the property, his kids and grandkids might be able to afford housing in their future and wouldn't have to move out to the burbs. And then he looks over at us and points and says "you people shouldn't be buying everything up and driving up the prices." Now my friend was pretty quick and said, "well, you don't have to sell." The man was a little surprised and said what does that have to do with it? Friend responded that if people weren't so greedy and wanted top dollar by creating bidding wars, they could stay where they were and their house price wouldn't be so unaffordable. Man didn't have much to say after that. One of his friends actually laughed. I had forgotten that until just now. Wonder what he told his kids and grandkids about us chinese people. Hmmm.
Personally If I were in your shoes in that situation I would have said the same thing but a bit more harshly....and even moreso if they old fucker had done the reverse and said property prices were going down in value where he lived due to the influx of non caucasian home buyers....the ol "ruining the neighborhood" thing.

I am just thankfull I am not quagmired in the Vancouver real estate market where owning a home eats up over 70% of your income for mortgage/taxes/utilities etc.

SR
 

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About 10 years or so ago, I was at a coffee shop with a buddy catching up and an older caucasian man was seated next to us with a couple of his friends. Now this is Vancouver and that was in the midst of one of the many housing booms we've had. He was talking very loudly and making it very clear that if it weren't for the chinese buying up all the property, his kids and grandkids might be able to afford housing in their future and wouldn't have to move out to the burbs. And then he looks over at us and points and says "you people shouldn't be buying everything up and driving up the prices." Now my friend was pretty quick and said, "well, you don't have to sell." The man was a little surprised and said what does that have to do with it? Friend responded that if people weren't so greedy and wanted top dollar by creating bidding wars, they could stay where they were and their house price wouldn't be so unaffordable. Man didn't have much to say after that. One of his friends actually laughed. I had forgotten that until just now. Wonder what he told his kids and grandkids about us chinese people. Hmmm.
I guess the fact that his POS bungalow would be worth dick all if not for the Chinese buying everything is lost on him;).
 

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I'm sure that he would be happy if that were the case for the balance of the time he lived in it. If you do not wish to sell at the moment, high real estate prices just have you paying high property taxes.

Cities claim that they Keep taxes flat or just raise them a small amount when they monkey with the mill rate. However, the tax rate can be flat and your tax bill still rises if real estate prices rise. For folks on fixed incomes or in lower income brackets, the rising taxes can force you out of your home, out of your neigbourhood, out of your region. Little wonder a lot of them are not happy to see hot real estate prices.
if properties were valued at what the owner paid for them, or even their purchase price adjusted for the consumer price index, older types wouldn't be forced out of their homes. but when the govt collects taxes on the sale of homes, well shit, there is NO incentive to keep retirees living in their neighbourhood of choice

but as charles dickins said, in his christmas-time classic, "are there no poorhouses?"
 

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I'm sure that he would be happy if that were the case for the balance of the time he lived in it. If you do not wish to sell at the moment, high real estate prices just have you paying high property taxes.

Cities claim that they Keep taxes flat or just raise them a small amount when they monkey with the mill rate. However, the tax rate can be flat and your tax bill still rises if real estate prices rise. For folks on fixed incomes or in lower income brackets, the rising taxes can force you out of your home, out of your neigbourhood, out of your region. Little wonder a lot of them are not happy to see hot real estate prices.
I believe there is an option here in BC for over 65ers to delay paying their property taxes until they die, out of the proceeds from the eventual sale of the property or be paid by the estate.
 

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If it was your "usual comeback" you imply it happened more than once. Kudos to you for your speed,outrunning the pack.
Actually, though there's no justification to the lady's rant,it is probably the voice of frustration.When you are at the bottom of the hopper and life keeps dumping more and more vexing problems on you,for which you are neither educated or perceptive enough to avoid, you start to react and lash out. (speaking from experience).
Although some might delight in Britain's perceived "reaping what they sowed" as far as colonialism goes, the general lowly populace didn't really have a lot of say in the matter. I saw a documentary recently about large cities in the English midlands, that had been pretty much overrun by Muslims. Large areas of said cities were "no go" zones for whites.When the camera crew ventured in, to interview some of the disgruntled Muslim youth, the British born Muslims said to the effect" Fuck England" It is our country now and we are taking over."
So there
What was the name of the Doc?
 
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