Question For SP's

[Lady Companion]

This thread has become a way for the SP's to impress upon us their attitudes and beliefs. A little extra advertising never hurt anyone :thumb: This response is the most disheartening one. You would rather save your energy for people you actually like. I'm sure you have hurt a lot of feelings along the way. This response makes you sound like you only go for hot young guys even though you are no longer young yourself... You won't see a guy again if he doesn't make your heart sing? What fat, ugly man will ever get a second shot with you then? Say a man has a great time with you, thought he enjoyed a great session with you, was totally polite and clean, and by the end is already thinking of the next time he can book you, you will shoot him down just because you are not excited to see him? That sounds like bad business. This guy could be an easy client who books weekly with you, but you have no interest in his thousands of dollars because he is a fat and ugly old man, or maybe is socially inept. You say we "deserve" to have an escort do that for us, how many escorts do you think are going to be thrilled to see him (other than to take his money)? The point is he is thrilled to see YOU, and has chosen YOU. How would he ever know what he did wrong so that he could fix it for the next time? He can't - he is simply being denied because you don't like him, the same thing that happens to him in real life, but since he was paying you $700 an hour to visit his condo, and had a great time the first time with you, he didn't think he would be turned down... People rarely look forward to work, unless you are getting paid hundreds of dollars to have sex with someone attractive, then I would definitely look forward to that. I understand you are a high class escort, and have standards of who you will see. If you are that busy that you can pick and choose clients good for you. You are super lucky you have clients that you are attracted to and actually want to sleep with. I'm sure they generally include only the elite of Vancouver at your rates, so you are even luckier.

The best responses to almost anything posted in the lounge come from the beautiful and intelligent Lady Via. She is more and more becoming an SP that I would love to visit. Her kindly and thoughtful responses always seem to hit the nail on the head. I really enjoy reading her responses in the lounge. Miss Tanya and Caramel come up with some pretty great stuff to, always enjoy your insights and ideas as well.

Hobby, I'm sorry, but you completely misread and misconstrued my post. I am attracted to all kinds of men. Physically - I don't have a preference other than clean. It is all about a CONNECTION. That comes in all shapes, sizes, ages, ethnic backgrounds, religious backgrounds etc. Aesthetics don't ever factor into my opinion of an individual. Not in work, and not in my personal life. Many of you knew my last partner - 366 lbs of furry, balding squishiness. Not rich. Not attractive in any way by Western standards. But we had a CONNECTION - and that is what I am interested in both providing and enjoying in all my interactions.

I enjoy the company of my friends BECAUSE of their flaws...NOT IN SPITE OF THEM. Uniqueness and diversity are things which I hold in high regard, usually because they are tied to authenticity. If you are weird and quirky - that's awesome! As long a you are still considerate and respectful. Judging somebody based on age, race, weight, or other aesthetics never crosses my mind. I enjoy all meat suits. But it really is what's inside that counts.

On the other hand, if you are intolerant, rude, judgmental, disrespectful, or just pretending to be something you aren't, then I'm really not interested in sharing my energy with you.

If I'm not looking forward to seeing you again, why would you want to see me? Why would anybody want that? Especially in a service which is so personal?

We all deserve to be adored and cherished for who and what we really are. I provide a safe and sacred place which allows you to be yourself without judgement. I will always cherish and adore any person who entrusts me with their true self. If you aren't going to take advantage of that, then I agree, you would be much better off seeing a lady who charges less and happily takes your money to pretend she like fake version of you that you are letting her see.

 

[Hobby]

Good response, but you ask if you're not looking forward to seeing a hobbyist, why would he want to see you? Because HE LIKES YOU. Does that mean during the first session if YOU don't feel a connection but I do, that you would then sabotage the rest of the session in order to ensure that I do not book again? Would you make a note not to see someone who left your in-call very happy and told you he would love to see you again because YOU did not feel a connection to him? What if the reason HE wants to see you again is because you treated him nice, and were beautiful. Often that is enough for a man to want to return. Would you deny him the pleasure of your presence just because you don't feel a connection to him? I'm sure you are naturally attracted to a number of your clients because they have the confidence and cash to be with a woman of your stature, but what if you see a client who saved for 3 months to see you and is low class? Would you deny him another shot in 3 months if he had a great time with you but you did not?

Many men are paying for a fantasy - They have absolutely no chance of building a "connection" with a gorgeous girl 30 years younger than them. Of course we are paying for the top notch acting skills. I realize no connection is real, because no one is ever being honest for that hour. I am 100% honest in everyone of my sessions. Real name, real age, any question I'm an open book, hell I'll even tell you where I work...I am guarded about certain things but everything else is fine. But being not that great socially means I rarely make honest connections with the beautiful escorts I encounter. One of my regulars has no real connection with me, but I see her because she is very beautiful and gives pretty good service. I hope I do not repulse or disturb her, but she has never given me any indications as such, and so I continue to visit for the above reasons. I agree with you, I would prefer to visit an escort that likes to have me visit them, but we must play the cards we are dealt. I have seen 23 girls now, and have had a good "connection" with one of them and a workable "connection" with about 4 or 5 others. I do not find myself hard to get along with, indeed I work with customers everyday, and try to be friendly and likable as part of my job, but my skills with the opposite sex leave much to be desired. I find I do OK if I "fake it till I make it" by smiling and offering friendly responses, and the fact that I am not totally hideous helps some too. It takes the right kind of bubbly, outgoing personality to unlock that part of my own personality. Then we get a good friendly banter going and that builds even more future attraction. That is rare though, and I imagine it is similar for a lot of men in the hobby. Some of us on this board are millionaire CEO's or other executives, good looking, great with the ladies, but have no time to build a relationship, or have a preference for younger women that have no interest in 50+ year old men. Others like myself are normal(ish) dudes that work hard, but have lower confidence, don't know how to talk to women, and would like a once in a life time opportunity to be with a kind, beautiful woman. Maybe personal relationships we had in the past did not work out and we want something less painful. We know the connection is not real, we just like the feeling of what it could be like.

 

[meaghanmcleodDELETED]

Good response, but you ask if you're not looking forward to seeing a hobbyist, why would he want to see you? Because HE LIKES YOU. Does that mean during the first session if YOU don't feel a connection but I do, that you would then sabotage the rest of the session in order to ensure that I do not book again? Would you make a note not to see someone who left your in-call very happy and told you he would love to see you again because YOU did not feel a connection to him? What if the reason HE wants to see you again is because you treated him nice, and were beautiful. Often that is enough for a man to want to return. Would you deny him the pleasure of your presence just because you don't feel a connection to him? I'm sure you are naturally attracted to a number of your clients because they have the confidence and cash to be with a woman of your stature, but what if you see a client who saved for 3 months to see you and is low class? Would you deny him another shot in 3 months if he had a great time with you but you did not?

Many men are paying for a fantasy - They have absolutely no chance of building a "connection" with a gorgeous girl 30 years younger than them. Of course we are paying for the top notch acting skills. I realize no connection is real, because no one is ever being honest for that hour. I am 100% honest in everyone of my sessions. Real name, real age, any question I'm an open book, hell I'll even tell you where I work...I am guarded about certain things but everything else is fine. But being not that great socially means I rarely make honest connections with the beautiful escorts I encounter. One of my regulars has no real connection with me, but I see her because she is very beautiful and gives pretty good service. I hope I do not repulse or disturb her, but she has never given me any indications as such, and so I continue to visit for the above reasons. I agree with you, I would prefer to visit an escort that likes to have me visit them, but we must play the cards we are dealt. I have seen 23 girls now, and have had a good "connection" with one of them and a workable "connection" with about 4 or 5 others. I do not find myself hard to get along with, indeed I work with customers everyday, and try to be friendly and likable as part of my job, but my skills with the opposite sex leave much to be desired. I find I do OK if I "fake it till I make it" by smiling and offering friendly responses, and the fact that I am not totally hideous helps some too. It takes the right kind of bubbly, outgoing personality to unlock that part of my own personality. Then we get a good friendly banter going and that builds even more future attraction. That is rare though, and I imagine it is similar for a lot of men in the hobby. Some of us on this board are millionaire CEO's or other executives, good looking, great with the ladies, but have no time to build a relationship, or have a preference for younger women that have no interest in 50+ year old men. Others like myself are normal(ish) dudes that work hard, but have lower confidence, don't know how to talk to women, and would like a once in a life time opportunity to be with a kind, beautiful woman. Maybe personal relationships we had in the past did not work out and we want something less painful. We know the connection is not real, we just like the feeling of what it could be like.

Wow, it seems you have an issue with one particular lady. If someone has chosen to decline a second encounter, please move on. There are those that want to see me again, and I refuse to see them. In this industry, I have the right. My body, my decision. I don't owe an explanation. Neither does she.

 

[Hobby]

I do agree with you Miss McLeod, it is the provider's personal decision on whom to take on as a client. If they make you uncomfortable, no matter what they are paying, it is always the right of the provider to refuse service to anyone, without giving a reason. I am sorry if I was rude because as Classy Angel mentioned it is a very personal experience for both people and both parties must be comfortable with the situation. Everybody has different tolerance levels, but no one should put up with something they don't want to, even for thousands of dollars.

 

[Caramel]

I do agree with you Miss McLeod, it is the provider's personal decision on whom to take on as a client. If they make you uncomfortable, no matter what they are paying, it is always the right of the provider to refuse service to anyone, without giving a reason. I am sorry if I was rude because as Classy Angel mentioned it is a very personal experience for both people and both parties must be comfortable with the situation. Everybody has different tolerance levels, but no one should put up with something they don't want to, even for thousands of dollars.

Seems like you finally got it here...I feel like you totally misunderstood Classy's post! She definitely does not come off as a narcsisstic shallow person who is into "hot young guys". In fact, most escorts would rather pick the older gentlemen with a genuine heart and great mannerisms over the "young hottie" who is rough, loud, and full of himself and expects discounts or perks. Once again, providers have the right to refuse service to anyone! Please understand that, money doesn't matter. There are many other reasons of why the SP doesn't enjoy the client, maybe he is trying to push boundaries like going over-time without offering any more money, getting visibly grumpy if he can't finish in time and doesn't want to offer more, haggling rates, asking repeatedly for service that she doesn't offer..being flakey or late all the time, all things that can be done passively but are still annoying and unappealing. And of course stuff like being high or drunk and extremely rough physically - I can think of a couple who are that way but are usually big spenders, its not worth it!

And I don't get how an escort can't "like" or "dislike" a client only based on his personality and appearance if he isn't causing any issue whatsoever? This is business, its not personal...most SP's only really care about having a well mannered, respectful gentleman client who has good hygiene, who cares what his personal life or beliefs are, or even if hes shy or depressed, or overweight with average looks? Sp's aren't looking for a mate or boyfriend here! And many men are trainable too to get in sync with the girl.

I think Angel seems like she has a big heart, so what if she charges high rates? She has many years of experience in the business and has probably gained lots of skills and honed her craft, and probably invests a lot to give a luxurious experience, and likes to cater to a certain demographic, whats wrong with that? I've also noticed she donates money to charity, which is awesome and rare in the industry!

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

This thread has become a way for the SP's to impress upon us their attitudes and beliefs. ..

Perhaps you need to read the title of the thread again.

 

[uncleg]

Good response, but you ask if you're not looking forward to seeing a hobbyist, why would he want to see you? Because HE LIKES YOU. Does that mean during the first session if YOU don't feel a connection but I do, that you would then sabotage the rest of the session in order to ensure that I do not book again? Would you make a note not to see someone who left your in-call very happy and told you he would love to see you again because YOU did not feel a connection to him? What if the reason HE wants to see you again is because you treated him nice, and were beautiful. Often that is enough for a man to want to return. Would you deny him the pleasure of your presence just because you don't feel a connection to him? I'm sure you are naturally attracted to a number of your clients because they have the confidence and cash to be with a woman of your stature, but what if you see a client who saved for 3 months to see you and is low class? Would you deny him another shot in 3 months if he had a great time with you but you did not?

Many men are paying for a fantasy - They have absolutely no chance of building a "connection" with a gorgeous girl 30 years younger than them. Of course we are paying for the top notch acting skills. I realize no connection is real, because no one is ever being honest for that hour. I am 100% honest in everyone of my sessions. Real name, real age, any question I'm an open book, hell I'll even tell you where I work...I am guarded about certain things but everything else is fine. But being not that great socially means I rarely make honest connections with the beautiful escorts I encounter. One of my regulars has no real connection with me, but I see her because she is very beautiful and gives pretty good service. I hope I do not repulse or disturb her, but she has never given me any indications as such, and so I continue to visit for the above reasons. I agree with you, I would prefer to visit an escort that likes to have me visit them, but we must play the cards we are dealt. I have seen 23 girls now, and have had a good "connection" with one of them and a workable "connection" with about 4 or 5 others. I do not find myself hard to get along with, indeed I work with customers everyday, and try to be friendly and likable as part of my job, but my skills with the opposite sex leave much to be desired. I find I do OK if I "fake it till I make it" by smiling and offering friendly responses, and the fact that I am not totally hideous helps some too. It takes the right kind of bubbly, outgoing personality to unlock that part of my own personality. Then we get a good friendly banter going and that builds even more future attraction. That is rare though, and I imagine it is similar for a lot of men in the hobby. Some of us on this board are millionaire CEO's or other executives, good looking, great with the ladies, but have no time to build a relationship, or have a preference for younger women that have no interest in 50+ year old men. Others like myself are normal(ish) dudes that work hard, but have lower confidence, don't know how to talk to women, and would like a once in a life time opportunity to be with a kind, beautiful woman. Maybe personal relationships we had in the past did not work out and we want something less painful. We know the connection is not real, we just like the feeling of what it could be like.

Ever consider that you/he liked her too much ? Some of the ladies here have developed a pretty good instinct for/have lot's of experience with, clients that become infatuated. Great if it stays as a business relationship, but there are those clients that can't keep it at that way and they try to turn that fantasy into reality......that can get very dangerous.

 

[Lee Marvin]

Dear Hobby,
You said it yourself, you seem more attracted to Lady Via, I can now very highly recommend her. Please check out my new review and you'll be sold.
http://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?219723-The-Via-The-One&p=1651832&posted=1#post1651832

If the feeling's not mutual then yeah, move on and resist absolutely the urge to accuse and deride.
Check out this track from the soundtrack of the above review to give you a tip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFp-7Zr3ziw

 

[Claire Monet]

I have only denied repeat visits to a handful of men: those who are boundary pushers, overly aggressive (one particular nipple biter comes to mind), have extremely poor hygiene, rate hagglers or flaky/no shows. These types can come in all shapes and forms, races, backgrounds and ages. I would happily see the "older heavier" client who is respectful and well mannered over the "young hottie" who shows up late, refuses to shower, and haggles my rates.

Personally and professionally I prefer gentlemen who are older than me (my last couple of boyfriends were 14 and 18 years older than me), they were vastly different in appearance and lifestyles yet they both "got me" and we had chemistry. They both made me laugh and were respectful... well, except the last one at the end who showed his true aggressive and demeaning self whom I had to cut out of my life.

It's a shame when a good client, friend, or partner turns out to be a rotten apple.

 

[Lo-ki]

But there is such thing as genuine connections in the client/sp relationship!! Some guys think we're only nice because of the money..that isn't true either, at least in some cases. I have a few clients I've gotten along with so well, I've spent time with them off the clock. No sex or bjs though...I've done that once in the past & the sky fell almost immediately afterwards :fear: I'll forever be terrified of it happening again & wrecking a good thing. The exchange of money does help a lot with preventing risks of complication. I now consider it Complication Insurance!!

Maybe you just haven't found the right lady yet Hobby. Stay positive! She's out there somewhere

I totally have to agree with you Tanya. I have built excellent and great relationship with some SPs.
I would give the shirt off my back to help them out. Sometimes I do get taken advantage of.....but that is a risk I alone take.
I never mix both and also do not barter for sex. 99.9 % of the time I am just happy to help.
That does not only goes for SPS but also some great people I have met since I started the hobby.

 

[LalaniElectrica]

Chemistry does definitely play a part in the way in which we share with someone, and that has nothing at all to do with age, size or ethnicity, or even the almighty dollar, it has to do with the way you feel when you connect with a person, just like some men are too rough for some ladies or not rough enough, some ladies may be too aggressive for some men, or not aggressive enough, it's nothing personal, it's the way in which each person shares themselves. I would gladly refer someone to a girlfriend of mine who is best suited to their needs and would make them feel amazing, rather than continue a relationship that might be sexually fulfilling, but Perhaps one or both of our lifestyles or expectations about the way we share is different, so if another lady is better suited to give a more satisfying experience, it's for the good of all concerned! If money was our driving motivation, one would assume we would try to keep every connection to ourselves, but I agree that if we shared with those who we do not connect well with for any reason, it's best to move forward since money is not the prime motivation for a healer. Keeping your energy clean and clear is very important, and keeps you fresh and bright spirited. Being with someone who depletes your energy is not worth it.

If a person really enjoys my company, and chooses me, I will most likely find a way to make the connection work as long as there can be an agreement both ways, it has to be enjoyable for both people, Even if there is an activity that the person insists upon, and I just cannot do it for safety reasons primarily or for any reason I feel offensive, Consent is my #1 rule. I have taken a very select few off of vip and into the do not see category, simply because they continue to try and suggest aggressively pushing boundaries, or for requests I get, the fetish is unsafe and really not appropriate to ask of someone, imo. So, I suppose my ratio may be higher due to the unusual requests I get, but who really knows. I can see you ladies have some similar experiences. As for age preferences, I don't have one, but I do prefer sexually mature people, who are really in tune with their orgasms and orgasm control both ways, so I'm really into that, but there are so many ways to share, so usually it's really fun to have many experiences since being pan~sexual, it's very liberating! Every lady has a different philisophy and different restrictions, honesty is always the best policy

 

[Hobby]

Dear Hobby

Mate, you really need to, and have to let it go . You got burned how long ago ?? you spent how many $1000 trying to find another SP that you could connect with <-- your words .
You are still holding a grudge and pissed about it mate, unfortunately , you lost sight of the line , sorry too hear and say, but it happens. She no doubt seen it coming to, it is why you only get radio silence now

You need to let it go and move on mate, the anger will eat you up, and you are still angry about it. For those wondering what the hell i am talking about.
http://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?214237-When-it-ends/page2
Good luck Hobby

Cheers

Dude, I explained that the incident happened in Spring, and I was merely sympathizing with Whitemoustache. I thought we were board aquaintances, I have always enjoyed you Dawg... I havent bothered with that "provider" since then. Yeah, like I said the thoughts still bug me from time to time, and I have been trying to find a "replacement regular" but your response does not help. It was alot the provider's fault too, she was only the second provider I had ever seen and she seemed to like me, and convinced me with free bbj, cim, you name it, anything I asked, to come back again and again. She would come see me any day I wanted, rain or shine. She never cancelled a single appointment. Told me I'm her favorite, I said yeah right you tell that to everyone, she claimed she didn't (I'm sure she tells everyone that though). The things she said to me were not like what other SP's say to clients, or at least not to me. It felt much different to me than a regular SP visit, she has a way of making you forget you are paying for it. Thanks for making me feel like even more of a retard, I do a good enough job at that myself. When I posted that a couple weeks ago I had recently thought of her. I don't sit there whining about her, don't try to book her. Didn't ever "love" her. Got used to her in my life. I was strung along for several weeks, I even showed up to a couple appointments that were cancelled with "legitimate" excuses given, so I just booked a different girl and tried next week. I did not try to book her at all after I found out she wouldn't see me, which I had to ask directly, I was just confused about what the hell happened. Thanks for being a kind and understanding bunch...

 

[Cami Parker]

I wouldn't repeat with someone I didn't have a nice time with. I think that as an SP it's your responsibility to find something pleasing about each person you encounter. Everyone has at least one good quality. Some people are smart, some are very compassionate, some can make you laugh until you cry, spme have amazing hands, some have pretty eyes, some are amazing in bed or so many other good qualities, usually a combination of several, but at least one. It's our responsibility to find the quality we enjoy in our partner and focus on that, making the experience authentic for both of us. Nobody is going to enjoy themselves with someone that doesn't want to be there. I think in all the years I've worked I've only met about 5 people that I could not find even one quality in them that was a quality I enjoy. In those cases I simply told them I did not feel like our chemistry was very good and that it would be best if he found someone who connected with him better. Maybe it's selfish, but as much as I need you to enjoy your time with me, it's essential to me that I enjoy myself as well. I never do anything I don't like.

I guess it's fairly common and maybe not that difficult for an SP to get through a single session with someone she doesn't particularly like, but what if that person likes the SP and becomes a regular?

Is it just good business to put up with a creep, or jerk or someone crossing boundaries, or at some point do you refuse service?

Or if some comfort is built up, do you explain what bothers you about him, if it's something correctible?