Question For SP's

[Cock Throppled]

I guess it's fairly common and maybe not that difficult for an SP to get through a single session with someone she doesn't particularly like, but what if that person likes the SP and becomes a regular?

Is it just good business to put up with a creep, or jerk or someone crossing boundaries, or at some point do you refuse service?

Or if some comfort is built up, do you explain what bothers you about him, if it's something correctible?

 

[Caramel]

ahh the dreaded sigh when that person calls again...

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

I guess it's fairly common and maybe not that difficult for an SP to get through a single session with someone she doesn't particularly like, but what if that person likes the SP and becomes a regular?

Is it just good business to put up with a creep, or jerk or someone crossing boundaries, or at some point do you refuse service?

Or if some comfort is built up, do you explain what bothers you about him, if it's something correctible?

Of course, I am speaking here only for myself. In my opinion, it is never good business to continue to see someone who pushes boundaries or makes me feel uncomfortable: it's what is negative and damaging about what we do, and it's what makes me enjoy it less. It's demeaning to have to put up with a creepy client in a regular service industry job, but in the adult industry? NO WAY. I also have no problems expressing those sentiments CLEARLY (but then, I am an "Interpersonal Communications Expert"!) I have two examples I can cite.

Client 1: over the course of 6 months, I had seen him 3 or 4 times. On every visit, I felt he was pushing boundaries of what I would permit, and how 'open-minded' I would be, or how aggressive he could get away with being. The final time I saw him, as he was bending me over, he muttered in my ear "I'm going to rape your ass today, baby..." I replied, calmly but firmly, "No you're not." He persists "Oh yes I am baby, I'm going to...." and before he could finish the thought I had pushed him backwards off of me and told him to shut up, get dressed and get out. I then informed him that his need to push boundaries and make inappropriate requests mid-session (as well as haggling on rates before EVERY appointment & wanting PSE services at GFE rates!) was why I had stopped taking his appointment requests. He apologised, and left, and I heard no more from him for months. Then he contacted me again and asked for another appointment, assured me that he would behave, but wasn't willing to entertain the notion that he should pay the expected rate for Greek. I explained to him that I realise what his kink was: getting away with pushing boundaries. I still have him saved as Assfucker A... in my phone; I will NEVER entertain the notion of seeing him again.

Client 2: One of my longest term clients, and one I have always enjoyed seeing...until he showed up considerably more intoxicated that ever before. I don't drink at all...I have a single sip of a glass if my guest is enjoying something, I do not mind if a guest has a drink or two in my presence, but I expect him to be sober when he arrives. C2 wasn't. It bothered me, and I let him know it bothered me, that he did not behave the same way when he was intoxicated as any session we'd had in our past YEARS of seeing each other. Our next session, he showed up sober & I enjoyed seeing him, and we had a really good time together. I will see him again whenever he calls, and I have let him know that too...he's one of a select few clients who have been with me since almost the beginning! I treasure you guys! You know who you are...

Short answer: maybe! If you want to be a regular, don't push boundaries unless that's something you have negotiated and PAID FOR in advance as part of a scenario! If you want to STAY a regular, do the same thing.

Ms E.

 

[meaghanmcleodDELETED]

Well said Erica. Thank you.

I have fired a couple of clients. One chose to gossip with another provider I don't know, and told her specifically where my in all was located. This violation of my security was not tolerated and I told him so when he called to book me. He begged me for months to see me, and I refused.

Some I just tell them I am not available if I didn't enjoy our time together. Sorry, but I don't get paid nearly enough to put up with some. For those that try to get services I don't offer, or try to push my boundaries, the session stops, I get dressed and tell them to leave. They cannot rebook me, and I ignore them when they call.

I find it funny when I see guys post "she never answers her phone anymore". So if this is happening to you, do some self disclosure on your last session, and honestly evaluate yourself.

For those that haggle or negotiate my rates, that is a big no no. If you feel my rates are too high, a simple "thank you, that out of my budget", is much better then "I have x for x". I will never see someone who haggles my rates. I have too many that pay my rate and give a big tip to boot.

 

[LADY-VIA]

I guess it's fairly common and maybe not that difficult for an SP to get through a single session with someone she doesn't particularly like, but what if that person likes the SP and becomes a regular?

Is it just good business to put up with a creep, or jerk or someone crossing boundaries, or at some point do you refuse

service?

That depends. Is it just my irritation ?? Am I more or less annoyed or is it something that's just me ??? If it's big I'll tell them, but it really takes a lot to to piss me off or bother me. I accept people for who they. No one is perfect, and I do my "job". Many connect with me and not other ladies, so once again I pick up the phone and do my job. Ultimately I'm making them happy, which is all I strive for. It makes me happy to have others leAve happy. I don't connect completely with everyone, but it's not about me. Some days no one sees me and I pull my adds or pre book for another day, and that's because I've changed my mind and felt like doing something else that's day. Some days I wake up and just need my day for myself, or I feel drained. Either lots going on, or stressed out about something. On those particular days sometimes the clients that give lots emotionally right back to me get seen if they call, and no one else. More or less regulars only.

I'm not just s girl with a pretty face, who's good at ...... The complexity and depth of what we do is far beyond that. I understand this, and so I do my job. No one gets any less from me service wise. It doesn't matter if you on my short list, meaning I jump when you call and make any time happen, or if I sigh when the phone rings. I still give my all regardless. I'll never sluff someone off once they walk through the door or compromise the exsperience for them. I have a guilty conscience. I just don't believe in wronging someone. Or taking advantage in any way. I think we are all supposed to do our best to be good people. Good to others. So that's what I do, and who I am. If your my favourite or the bottom of the list favourite, I try to be a good person.

So yes. I still pick up the phone, and yes I still see them. I won't cancle if someone else calls. I follow through. Now if someone pushes my boundaries and there's a lack of respect issue. Then I stop seeing them, or I will tell them off. I've done it to a few. I'm very good to people so I demand demand a certain level of respect ect back. Do on to others , as you would hope ,,,,,, I'm sure out mothers all taught us that one.

Some days I'm unable to handle the type of session exsoected from couple of my clients, for various reasons so I pick and chose what works for me on any given day. I won't force myself to see someone if I'm not really into it that day. I will cancle. I can't go in feeling half ass. I've never taken someone's money and not tried. If we don't click we don't click. But I try. Or if possible I make us click !! We deserve awards, really we do. For our personal communication skills, and or acting skills.

Bottom line it's not about me. Now I'm fortunate to have a great deal of clients who go out of their way to make it about me as well. Amazing guys. I've even got about 6 I think who have seen me from day one and keep coming back. Clients that call on thanks givings. Christmas, my birthday. New Years. I had more clients call me or Contsct me on Christmas one year than my friends and family combined. That's huge. That's the moment it clicked for me. I knew I was doing something right !! So long as I'm having these results. I'll keep at it that way I have

Xo - LV

 

[LalaniElectrica]

"I guess it's fairly common and maybe not that difficult for an SP to get through a single session with someone she doesn't particularly like, but what if that person likes the SP and becomes a regular?

Is it just good business to put up with a creep, or jerk or someone crossing boundaries, or at some point do you refuse service?

Or if some comfort is built up, do you explain what bothers you about him, if it's something correctible? "

Most of the times, unpleasantries (rough touch, inexperienced petting the kitty, or other personal preferences) can be corrected and the person can be directed as to what is preferred, and the way to make it pleasureable for both parties. Since most people are good, with the best of intentions in becoming a better lover, I am willing to train people if they become fond of me and enjoy my time, if they are clean and self aware, and I can direct them to pleasing me in greater detail throughout time as well.

There are certain things I will eventually or immediately, not tolerate: Heavy smokers breath (on whiskers and fingers too), Heavy alcohol breath (a glass or 2 of wine or beer is totally fine, anything more is a turn-off), inappropriate touching (repeatedly doing the same movement (fisting or really rough finger fucking, or seriously asking for unprotected sex repeatedly, and not just in a fantasy role play scenario, actually expecting it after it's clearly a serious restriction, trying for anything that is not within the agreement (trying for greek in session when you know the particular lady doesn't do that) trying to insert unclean hands or doing hard drugs before the session, arrive with dry mouth and coke dick. Arriving always 20-30 mins late. Those are things that can make or break a session. Most people are not within this category, this is the 1%, some are trainable and some are intolerable if they cannot meet the simple expectations to arrive sober & showered and in the frame of mind to share fully, as we are expected to as well.

It is not good business to share with a person who you feel is unhealthy etc, since we have to be in optimal condition, it's best to stay reserved for those who also take the time for their hygiene, appearance and mental stability. Sharing with a person who creates negative feeling by showing up late every single time creates animosity. Being late can happen and it's not a problem as long as it's not the norm, for any meetings in any area of your life. Doing things you do not enjoy especially if you are getting hurt or injured while doing them is also not acceptable. Both parties must respect their limits, unless they have an agreement to push boundaries, then they can agree to a safe word. Anything other than that is called rape.

 

[vancouver1992]

Hello all, it's terrible You experience these unfortunate activities and behaviour!

Best wishes and flappy thoughts!
van'92

 

[badbadboy]

Some great responses in this thread and props to the ladies for opening up per se and giving us a view of some of their uncomfortable moments. Some of which I haven't considered.

Me, I am not so bad and I am trainable ound:

 

[Cock Throppled]

The reason I posted this question was, I was wondering whether I'm ever imposing myself on my regulars?

I have asked a couple of times when calls weren''t returned or emails answered, but am always assured there were extenuating circumstances.

I've had sex with someone I couldn't stand and wasn't remotely attracted to, so I know it would be living hell to dread a certain call on a regular basis.

 

[Mr Jones]

Lady Via, your comment here is fantastic. This, and many of your other posts, come across as full of insight, compassion and humor. Just had to say it, have a great day!

 

[LADY-VIA]

Lady Via, your comment here is fantastic. This, and many of your other posts, come across as full of insight, compassion and humor. Just had to say it, have a great day!

Thanks luv I just say it how it is. Sometimes I should sensor myself more, I'm aware of this, especially if I've had 2 or more glasses of wine. Real wild stuff flys out then. But for the most part I like to keep it real.

Xo -LV

 

[eazy]

Sometimes I should sensor myself more

Don't you dare! The world needs more people like you, not less.

 

[Mr Jones]

Don't you dare! The world needs more people like you, not less.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Aellyn Rose]

I guess it's fairly common and maybe not that difficult for an SP to get through a single session with someone she doesn't particularly like, but what if that person likes the SP and becomes a regular?

Is it just good business to put up with a creep, or jerk or someone crossing boundaries, or at some point do you refuse service?

Or if some comfort is built up, do you explain what bothers you about him, if it's something correctible?

My priority is my comfort level and emotional health, as they are essential to me giving good service in the long run. If someone's behaviour is such that I don't feel good around them or after seeing them, I end the client/provider relationship.

It is good business for a Companion to protect her energy and give stellar service to every client who isn't a problem!

 

[LADY-VIA]

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My priority is my comfort level and emotional health, as they are essential to me giving good service in the long run. If someone's behaviour is such that I don't feel good around them or after seeing them, I end the client/provider relationship.

It is good business for a Companion to protect her energy and give stellar service to every client who isn't a problem!

Yes most definitely !! Very well said. If it's too draining all together over all then it's not a good relationship, and I pull the plug as well. There is a line for sure 100 %!!! It's in my nature to give. personally that's who I am, inside and outside of "work". Work speaking it's ok if I'm giving more than recieving. As that's my "job" ... But if you suck me right dry and drain my energy to the point that I don't feel good after then I pull the plug. It isn't healthy at that point. None of us should feel crappy after. And if someone's feeling crappy on a regular basis (client or sp ) then pulling away a bit and possibly taking a time out would be a good idea.

 

[Lady Companion]

If a gentleman is not a problem in any way, but I'm not actually looking forward to seeing him - I will politely decline seeing him for future meetings, and will offer suggestions of ladies whom I think he will be wonderfully suited for.

Yes, this is a business, but before that, and far more importantly, it is a very personal and intimate experience. If the thought of seeing you doesn't make my heart sing, if I'm not eagerly anticipating your arrival, then I think YOU DESERVE to spend time with a lady who you do that for. It doesn't matter how good an actor someone is, at a subconscious level, the other party will always know if something is't quite right.

Furthermore, if I allow myself to entertain gentlemen whom I'm not excited about seeing, I deplete my energy, and am not capable of providing my highest level of service and connection to the suitors I will be entertaining later that week.

I need to qualify the above comments by saying that I genuinely adore and appreciate men and people in general. What I always find sexiest is authenticity. The most likely reason I will decline seeing somebody again is because they are putting on airs, and I can't connect with you if you won't let me see you ;-)

 

[Caramel]

the worst part is when they are extremely shocked that they can't get another appointment. I don't like how a lot of clients feel entitled to every escort and just because they see your ad, and that they make contact, that you MUST see them! And if you don't reply ever, they assume you must be "busy"...smh ...This goes for completely new stranger clients too who've never met an SP and stalk her phone begging for an appointment...those ones are creepy and should be handled with caution.

 

[Ms.Fiona]

Ditto~! I think it's pretty normal if your new to the business to put up with more than you should but once you get a feel for what a great client should and can be like there's no way you'll allow anyone to mistreat you.

Good business is choosing to engage with people who respect you, have your best interests at heart and improve your quality of life not take away from it. So no, there is no such thing as a shitty regular imo. They don't get round 2. If it's a great guy with a small thing that bothers you that might be worth ignoring if it's no biggie or just bringing it up. But someone who treats you poorly should get a quick boot to the NO list.

 

[yasmine]

I usually put them in their place where they belong. Most men will respect my wishes If they really like me.

 

[Hobby]

If a gentleman is not a problem in any way, but I'm not actually looking forward to seeing him - I will politely decline seeing him for future meetings, and will offer suggestions of ladies whom I think he will be wonderfully suited for.

Yes, this is a business, but before that, and far more importantly, it is a very personal and intimate experience. If the thought of seeing you doesn't make my heart sing, if I'm not eagerly anticipating your arrival, then I think YOU DESERVE to spend time with a lady who you do that for. It doesn't matter how good an actor someone is, at a subconscious level, the other party will always know if something is't quite right.

Furthermore, if I allow myself to entertain gentlemen whom I'm not excited about seeing, I deplete my energy, and am not capable of providing my highest level of service and connection to the suitors I will be entertaining later that week.

I need to qualify the above comments by saying that I genuinely adore and appreciate men and people in general. What I always find sexiest is authenticity. The most likely reason I will decline seeing somebody again is because they are putting on airs, and I can't connect with you if you won't let me see you ;-)

This thread has become a way for the SP's to impress upon us their attitudes and beliefs. A little extra advertising never hurt anyone :thumb: This response is the most disheartening one. You would rather save your energy for people you actually like. I'm sure you have hurt a lot of feelings along the way. This response makes you sound like you only go for hot young guys even though you are no longer young yourself... You won't see a guy again if he doesn't make your heart sing? What fat, ugly man will ever get a second shot with you then? Say a man has a great time with you, thought he enjoyed a great session with you, was totally polite and clean, and by the end is already thinking of the next time he can book you, you will shoot him down just because you are not excited to see him? That sounds like bad business. This guy could be an easy client who books weekly with you, but you have no interest in his thousands of dollars because he is a fat and ugly old man, or maybe is socially inept. You say we "deserve" to have an escort do that for us, how many escorts do you think are going to be thrilled to see him (other than to take his money)? The point is he is thrilled to see YOU, and has chosen YOU. How would he ever know what he did wrong so that he could fix it for the next time? He can't - he is simply being denied because you don't like him, the same thing that happens to him in real life, but since he was paying you $700 an hour to visit his condo, and had a great time the first time with you, he didn't think he would be turned down... People rarely look forward to work, unless you are getting paid hundreds of dollars to have sex with someone attractive, then I would definitely look forward to that. I understand you are a high class escort, and have standards of who you will see. If you are that busy that you can pick and choose clients good for you. You are super lucky you have clients that you are attracted to and actually want to sleep with. I'm sure they generally include only the elite of Vancouver at your rates, so you are even luckier.

The best responses to almost anything posted in the lounge come from the beautiful and intelligent Lady Via. She is more and more becoming an SP that I would love to visit. Her kindly and thoughtful responses always seem to hit the nail on the head. I really enjoy reading her responses in the lounge. Miss Tanya and Caramel come up with some pretty great stuff to, always enjoy your insights and ideas as well.