Privacy - RCMP using spyware to investigate Canadians

[susi]

I have been watching this on CPAC....unreal..... I wondered if anyone else was watching this or had an opinion? this is further to the digital citizen initiative, digital commissioner, AI age verification for porn and other things, facial recognition technology ?

would love some perspectives from people here, i want to be armed with good arguments....

love susie

 

[sybian]

Everyone is using the internet for surveillance…..all levels of law enforcement, and government

 

[westwoody]

Read about Stingray

 

[Forum mod]

Meta/Facebook is giving cops PMs and messages about ladies getting abortions FFS. Privacy is dead.

 

[sybian]

Read about Stingray

“ frequently been used without informing the court system, or obtaining a warrant “

 

[susi]

the debate in parliamentary committee has been going on for days.... border services, rcmp, local police services, csis......there are alot of incredible witnesses fighting for the rights of canadians....conservative, liberal and ndp.... it's a brawl.... about the rcmp refusing to disclose information....human rights concerns....who is canada selling spy ware to...? there are no regulations at all....

of course "sex trafficking" came up.... as a legitimate reason to invade to privacy of canadians.... they always use sex workers to justify illegal tactics....

this all relates back to the digital citizen initiative and the digital commissioner and all kinds of shit...facial recognition....broad net capture of private information - not just from the target but others around the target - during surveillance....

i mean i know we all knew this.... but trying to hold people accountable and creating regulation seems like a news worthy discussion....

it's not just porn and sex work under attack.... it's way wider than that....

what kind of regulation will be created? what should it be? how can we trust for example the rcmp.... who have a history of discrimination and mis using the laws?

love susie.

 

[susi]

Meta/Facebook is giving cops PMs and messages about ladies getting abortions FFS. Privacy is dead.

that was crazy.... really....

Google canada testified yesterday and discussed cooperating with law enforcement here in our country....some comment about warrants... as was ,mentioned during the committee hearings - warrants issued by judges who don't really understand the technology..... seriously... it seems really dangerous to me...

love susie

 

[westwoody]

“ frequently been used without informing the court system, or obtaining a warrant “

Their argument is that since the radio signals are floating around in free space the phones’ owners have no right to privacy.
LE equate cellphones and the internet with a cork board at Safeway.

Harper’s creepy justice minister (the one whose wife divorced him for boinking the babysitter) wanted warrantless access to emails and texts using this argument.

Never ever let anyone even touch your cellphone. Never. Many forces can download the entire content of your phone without telling you.

 

[Corym]

Even your car, if built after a certain year have "event data recorders" in them that collect data. The thing is everytime you use your debit card, they collect data.

It is an online world we live in.

Corym

 

[Billiam]

Everyone is using the internet for surveillance…..all levels of law enforcement, and government

And don't forget the criminal organizations and terrorist groups - gotta keep up!

 

[LLLurkJ2]

And don't forget the criminal organizations and terrorist groups - gotta keep up!

Somehow they cant catch those guys, only the pleebs.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

Not subscribing to any conspiracy shit here but I would be pretty sure we've all been surveilled for many years. Data collected from any source where a data base exists. The net and the proliferation of all kinds of gizmos attached just makes it that much easier. This RCMP disclosure might get a "tut tut" but I doubt it will go much further.

 

[ModSquad]

There was a question for the RCMP and Cisis are using the software developed by an Israeli company called Pegasus. There were denials of course but it was then learned they have a similar set up as Pegasus. The freaky thing about this Malware is it can extract all your personal info from your phone and not know about it.

Pegasus

 

[LLLurkJ2]

I cant wait for Musks neurolink. No chance *that* woukd be abused.

Meanwhile we just have to settle for 5g mind control towers...i get bad reception.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

There was a question for the RCMP and Cisis are using the software developed by an Israeli company called Pegasus. There were denials of course but it was then learned they have a similar set up as Pegasus. The freaky thing about this Malware is it can extract all your personal info from your phone and not know about it.

Pegasus

Too bad the BlackBerry Enterprise System was closed. Even RIM couldn't hack it.

 

[appleomac]

Too bad the BlackBerry Enterprise System was closed. Even RIM couldn't hack it.

Except that RIM/Blackberry cooperated with LE for years (in many countries) to hand over user data, including intercepting BBM messages. They had a department (if memory serves it was called the Public Safety Ops Group) to handle LE requests. It's well documented and has been known for many years.

 

[Corym]

Just be careful what you post and where, it might come back to bite you.

Corym

 

[AmethystAngel]

I cant wait for Musks neurolink. No chance *that* woukd be abused.

Meanwhile we just have to settle for 5g mind control towers...i get bad reception.

You need to upgrade the tinfoil every 100kw. Gotta keep that signal boosted

 

[AmethystAngel]

W

Their argument is that since the radio signals are floating around in free space the phones’ owners have no right to privacy.
LE equate cellphones and the internet with a cork board at Safeway.

Harper’s creepy justice minister (the one whose wife divorced him for boinking the babysitter) wanted warrantless access to emails and texts using this argument.

Never ever let anyone even touch your cellphone. Never. Many forces can download the entire content of your phone without telling you.

Between Bill c51 and c36 law enforcement doesn't technically need a warrant. They were vague during the hearing because most Canadians don't know these laws exist or the legal ramifications.

 

[Rusty razor]

The “radio waves” have always been public domain, you need a license to transmit but not to receive. This goes back to the days of morse code and the first voice transmissions when it was understood that anyone could tune into a frequency and listen. They’ve never changed the law even though with today’s technology there are ways of generating reasonable privacy with scrambling, carrier tones, frequency switching etc. it’s to the government’s advantage to never change the law. I have always told friends that a cel phone is just a fancy walkie-talkie like you used as a kid. Privacy is an illusion sold to the naive