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Supply and demand. Covid not letting new/more girls in. Stuck with the existing batch. We're all still horny and have no choice. There you go.
Also, Inflation. It goes up by $20 about every two to three years. Everyone remembers a time when the price was $(insert price here)
Same with the price of gas, a bottle of cola, etc. Leolist also doubled their pricing for advertising over the last couple years which has an effect.
Typically it comes down to the girls themselves asking for certain rates. If their friends can get more, or get more at another shop etc, you can only follow along. It is what it is unfortunately. But generally seems to happen every 3 years or so.
Same with the price of gas, a bottle of cola, etc. Leolist also doubled their pricing for advertising over the last couple years which has an effect.
Typically it comes down to the girls themselves asking for certain rates. If their friends can get more, or get more at another shop etc, you can only follow along. It is what it is unfortunately. But generally seems to happen every 3 years or so.
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And $20 seems to be the standard to increment to increase by, since that’s what you get out of the ATM. Doesn’t make sense to increase by $7 each year...so it’ll go up by $20 every 3 years. So that’s inflation of about 3% a year, give or take, that’s close enough to CPI running at about 2% over the last 10 years.
Price fixing everyone gets together and agrees on an increase.
Bullshit. "Inflation" has nothing to do with it. Considering the cost of rent has been steadily DROPPING for the year, month over month, and each year inflation has averaged 1.4% for the past ten years, it is verifiably NOT due to inflation. Food has increased but gas is still cheaper than it was last year despite the steady rise from the record lows a few months ago. There is literally nothing to justify a 9% increase in the one hour rate across the board aside from taking advantage of supply & demand. I tire of the gaslighting that goes on with this subject.
References:
Inflation in BC
https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/vancouver-bc
Rent in the Vancouver area.
https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/vancouver-bc
Gas in Vancouver
https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/Canada/Vancouver/gasoline_prices/
References:
Inflation in BC
https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/vancouver-bc
Rent in the Vancouver area.
https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/vancouver-bc
Gas in Vancouver
https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/Canada/Vancouver/gasoline_prices/
For old STDS9 fans
It's the Ferenghi Model
Our prices are higher because we want your money.
It's the Ferenghi Model
Our prices are higher because we want your money.
So I guess in 20 years it will be a 1000 per hour and a coffee will be 50 bucks? (just painting a picture, please don't do any exact math). When will it stop?
The truth is the 'regular' folks, including many groups like seniors (not me yet) don’t get proportionally equal increase in income. And life became more expensive for most of the people. Perhaps in some way to providers. But I want justify any rate increase by mentioning inflation, like AF said. I think they just do it because they can. It's a business and a money grab when possible. A one person or a larger 'corporation'.
One last note.. who makes more that 200 dollars an hour? Or even better, 140 in 15 minutes? Work three hours a week, often having fun, and you make more than low paying jobs many do in a week? Pretty sweet. Tax free. Then the 'high end' providers. An overnight, 3 hour delight, weekend gateway for 4 or 6 grand! Uh, wait. Its 4800 because if inflation? 440'hr - poor you! Hahaha
That's in a nutshell why I don't buy it. Thats just opposite from frequent fliers discounts and normal specials, as per really 20% off. As we all know the shorter meeting with a provider time the higher, and drastically, the hourly fee calculated.
PS. I want correct my phone's spelling lol
The truth is the 'regular' folks, including many groups like seniors (not me yet) don’t get proportionally equal increase in income. And life became more expensive for most of the people. Perhaps in some way to providers. But I want justify any rate increase by mentioning inflation, like AF said. I think they just do it because they can. It's a business and a money grab when possible. A one person or a larger 'corporation'.
One last note.. who makes more that 200 dollars an hour? Or even better, 140 in 15 minutes? Work three hours a week, often having fun, and you make more than low paying jobs many do in a week? Pretty sweet. Tax free. Then the 'high end' providers. An overnight, 3 hour delight, weekend gateway for 4 or 6 grand! Uh, wait. Its 4800 because if inflation? 440'hr - poor you! Hahaha
That's in a nutshell why I don't buy it. Thats just opposite from frequent fliers discounts and normal specials, as per really 20% off. As we all know the shorter meeting with a provider time the higher, and drastically, the hourly fee calculated.
PS. I want correct my phone's spelling lol
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The landscape has definitely changed but at the end it boils down to supply and demand. You have an influx of immigrant population coming in with wealthy outside money and willing to spend. Boom, in come the high end girls testing the market at $300, $500, $700 per hour. They sell cuz wealthy immigrants mentioned above. Like AF said, these high end girls know some lower end girls, or the lower end girls see the high end ads, they then want a piece also but know they are in the more aged price range, but still greedy and therefore go up 20 or 40 as well. And cuz covid, like i first mentioned, there's no new competition and you have no choices so you will pay.
I tell you, its supply and demand, but a large part of the demand is because of wealthy immigrant chinese dudes come here, and will spend shit tonnes of money on these girls and this is what shift the market. Every 3yrs is BS also. From 2010 to about 2015/16, prices were relatively stable. But since then, prices getting out of hand. Coincides with the rise in house prices doesnt it. And who were buyin those up?
But a wrinkle in this is though prices gone up, service and attitude in general gone down. And more and more seem entitled to take 200 or 260 or whatever without doing a lot....seems more and more like this.
Sorry, rant.
I tell you, its supply and demand, but a large part of the demand is because of wealthy immigrant chinese dudes come here, and will spend shit tonnes of money on these girls and this is what shift the market. Every 3yrs is BS also. From 2010 to about 2015/16, prices were relatively stable. But since then, prices getting out of hand. Coincides with the rise in house prices doesnt it. And who were buyin those up?
But a wrinkle in this is though prices gone up, service and attitude in general gone down. And more and more seem entitled to take 200 or 260 or whatever without doing a lot....seems more and more like this.
Sorry, rant.
No way it's $20 every 2-3 years. Now the price hike from micros comes once a year or even less.
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I get what you are saying, and it is in many shades true. But at the end, blaming Chinese rich immigrants coming here has been described as racist and xenophobic. Then, are we at their mercy? Then we have the poor Chinese and other nations, not all are rich! Those providers jumping on the wagon promising better money than stacking shelves 40 hours a week at No Frills, and Canadian born of all colors just playing the 'system' justifying it with fancy words and concepts, which they don't really understand in depth but those fit their narrative so it becomes a get over it or shut up rule. What I'm trying to say that in my humble opinion, everybody is trying to have a good face to a bad game. And it's all the same old BS - rat race to get money. Many providers are quite well off living lives of rich an spoiled famous. Are they all masterpieces? No! But they manage to be in demand and those with big amounts of disposable cash pay that big buck from their back pockets. Which translates actually into giving away scraps, like giving away change. Very different when someone working hard at a 'regular' wage pays these inflated by 'inflation' prices. Then you have those who spend 20 grand a night because it makes no difference to their budget. It's all relevant and needs a perspective. But in this case here, there are so many mixed messages and justifications, not just related to this hobby/activity/necessity, and everybody seems to be right. For me, I think I am right that this inflation angle is just and excuse. But if you can get away with it, who is to say don't. Personally, I'd choose based on what I'd think a provider or a handler is offering beyond terms of service. Did rental fees went up a bit? Food, pretty much anything? If so, they did to all of us. And income for many did not, but services were cut. But if one can't consider any other direction than upward profit, then make these prices go higher. Why just 20, make it 40, 60! Throw in 'high end' name. Until you will corner yourself and I can tell you, if my wealth was infinite, I'd not spend a dime above what I think empty justifications and slogans say.
It's not strictly due to inflation for sure, but definitely plays a part. If we are talking rates based on 5-10 years back, we'd likely be at the $220-$230 range instead of $240-$260 range.
What you have to realize though is that the "Asian micro" industry is hardly a localized scene. Most girls are on the scene off and on for a few years at most. Within Canada you've competition in Toronto (and to lesser extent other cities), but more importantly, places like the Bay area and LA set the international standard for what Asian micros earn and it kind of trickles down from there based on the available liquidity of the girls (if we were strictly local, it would likely be slightly cheaper). If you've come across the scene in LA, SF, LV, and to a somewhat lesser extent NY, you'll understand it's a whole different world.
The talk about "wealthy immigrant money" and girls testing the "high end market" being the cause of a bump in price in Asian micros is not a correct assumption, or plays a MUCH smaller part than what people here think. These girls testing the high end market tend to be younger and localized, and should fall under a much economically different "sugarbaby" category. I can guarantee you anyone with the "wealthy immigrant money" isn't dropping a dime at these Asian micros, and the rare time that they do it's strictly out of convenience. No offence, but Asian micros are generally for the less wealthy crowd (but it serves that market just fine as well).
TL;DR globalization, bitches
What you have to realize though is that the "Asian micro" industry is hardly a localized scene. Most girls are on the scene off and on for a few years at most. Within Canada you've competition in Toronto (and to lesser extent other cities), but more importantly, places like the Bay area and LA set the international standard for what Asian micros earn and it kind of trickles down from there based on the available liquidity of the girls (if we were strictly local, it would likely be slightly cheaper). If you've come across the scene in LA, SF, LV, and to a somewhat lesser extent NY, you'll understand it's a whole different world.
The talk about "wealthy immigrant money" and girls testing the "high end market" being the cause of a bump in price in Asian micros is not a correct assumption, or plays a MUCH smaller part than what people here think. These girls testing the high end market tend to be younger and localized, and should fall under a much economically different "sugarbaby" category. I can guarantee you anyone with the "wealthy immigrant money" isn't dropping a dime at these Asian micros, and the rare time that they do it's strictly out of convenience. No offence, but Asian micros are generally for the less wealthy crowd (but it serves that market just fine as well).
TL;DR globalization, bitches
In lame terms increase is due to business costs of expenses such as advertising on leo. Which is reasonable. I moved here about 5 yrs ago and rates were relative the same. I was expecting a raise in costs due to leo being so expensesive. Only thing I don't understand in Vancouver area Asian mircos is the 45min and 60min jump of 40. It's just a little weird to me. That was the most recent jump in price the time I spent in Vancouver that I can recall.
Considering only a few months ago everyone seemed to be scared to death to see any of these girls cause of covid and they lost a lot of income and in the last few months many of these girls got back to work under the possible threat of covid along with everything else they have to deal with, I think they may very well deserve the extra $20 bucks in these times....I don't necessarily buy that is inflation or the fact that all of these wealthy chinese folks are not price sensitive so they just drive the prices up at the micros...The free market will decide if the price will hold and the extra $20 just means that I better be a bit more selective in chosing where I want to spend my $$.
Not really a free market when information asymmetry is so high, with price-fixing, and level of service usually does not go the same direction as price.
I think the rates of Sp’s has gone up across the board, let alone Asian micros. Personally if you are upset that the price went up $20, don’t go. A few ladies that I have enjoyed in the past (all Non Asian micros) have raised their rates more than $20. Unfortunately for me, I make the decision not to see them anymore. It doesn’t matter what the reason is for a price increase and it doesn’t matter if one complains about it. There will always be a buyer and a seller.
Still considered cheap here, try Alberta, Toronto, Montreal with even less service and asking for more.
That is why ladies refuse to come to see cheapskates here.
They stay shortly, realize the extra nickle and diming here, and
get the hell out of here, and not come back unless they have
regulars like that Korean Candy.
That is why ladies refuse to come to see cheapskates here.
They stay shortly, realize the extra nickle and diming here, and
get the hell out of here, and not come back unless they have
regulars like that Korean Candy.
$20 doesn't buy much of anything these days in metro vancouver so what is the use of targeting your complaints against Asian Micros? Average rate for independents is $260 on up. Maybe if the NDP get in power they can Unionize the micros and they will suddenly be on par with independents.
Quit your whining.
Quit your whining.
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