Pamela Anderson Speaks Out Against Pornography

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in a perfect world I don't think there would be any porn or need for it.
or escorts for that matter, but that is just porn too.


I believe there is a lot to be said about the negative aspects of porn to be honest,
for me anyway, it takes away the magic the wonder of it all, in a sense the beauty the simplicity of it all. its a magical wonderful moment a boy and a girl,
now its just get down fucking spread it all bitch.

it does, it takes something away from the wonder of all it all.
 

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Porn is scripted, predictable, which is part of what makes it fun. But it's still a script. I, too, prefer my encounters to be a bit more improvisational, with room for an element of surprise.
 

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I'm no longer working in "the oldest profession" Judging by your comment I don't think you know what a regular day at the office for me is.. I don't have sex with my clients. But I do an endless amount of taboo acts limited only by imagination.

BDSM has been around for a long time, before pornography. To some extent the stereotype is true. There is a large number of men in high powered positions who see mistresses. The older guys seem to typically have gotten into it for stress relief, at some point in their life they felt adventurous or something happened in their life to trigger a fetish...

Once I get to know my clients I always ask what brought them down this path...

The majority of the younger crowd I see tell me they got into it from watching extreme taboo porn. Regular vanilla porn bores them. Over time they notice they needed to watch more and more extreme stuff to get off..

But even when I was an escort I noticed the correlation between porn consumption, performance and request for certain sex acts...Men who grew up jerking off to magazines are different in bed then guys who grew up jerking off to internet porn.
Keep in mind this is a generalization...Many younger guys seem disconnected during sex.. it's feels like they're jerking off into you..they jackhammer (if they can even keep it up..a surprising number in their 20's suffer from ED) The rougher guys tend to come from the "new age crowd". Over time requests for slapping, spanking, choking, COF have notably increased..
The older guys grew up being introduced to sex during high school the old fashioned way...spending time with living, breathing human females. Not from sitting in front of a computer screen clicking & jerking away for hours at a time....It's much easier to have a connection with mature guys. & they're more likely to treat an sp as a human being, not simply a fuck toy.

edit.. I'm not trying to go out of my way to slam younger guys.. But the truth is when i was an escort I learned to quietly screen most of them out. Now as a domme I do enjoy my time with the younger crowd. The young ones (20's) who are actually serious bookers compromise the vast majority of my callers who book sissy slut sessions. What got them interested?? Porn. Usually shemale/transsexual porn. This type of session I do often.

Sure some men have been getting off on dressing up in women's clothing and getting fucked by a woman wearing a strapon (or a real transexual) for a long time now, long before high speed internet porn. But this sort of request seems to be exploding in popularity (in my realm at least)
As an "older guy" who grew up in a place where porn was illegal and people/media did not talk about sex at all except in hushed whispers, let me assure you that people found plenty of material to jerk off with and generate fantasies with that was not pornographic in intent. Porn is not required for that, porn came from that, not the other way around.

If people are interested in sex, and it is not readily available, they will have lurid and unrealistic fantasies irrespective of whether porn is available or not. I think the idea that people will have a more realistic view of sex when they are ignorant about it in general is ridiculous.
 

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I think the idea that people will have a more realistic view of sex when they are ignorant about it in general is ridiculous.
That is not what she is saying at all.
 

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That is not what she is saying at all.
I know what she is saying, my point was that is how it has always been, porn has nothing to do with it. Older guys have a more relaxed natural approach simply because they are older (and hence more experienced) than younger guys. Older guys want a sexual experience to recall their youth, younger guys want to satisfy a fantasy that is not readily available to them (in general). It has always been that way.
 

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The problem with porn is a lot of it is abusive and degrading, which is fine and fun when you're into that. BUT teens who get their sex Ed from porn and have no other sources are thinking this is the norm, and what sex always looks like, which isn't the case. Girls are losing their virginity and getting choked and slapped in the process because boys think this is what you're supposed to do...
Just some food for thought.
 

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The problem with porn is a lot of it is abusive and degrading, which is fine and fun when you're into that. BUT teens who get their sex Ed from porn and have no other sources are thinking this is the norm, and what sex always looks like, which isn't the case. Girls are losing their virginity and getting choked and slapped in the process because boys think this is what you're supposed to do...
Just some food for thought.

Well said IMO.
Sex is sex, yes i truly enjoy it and lots of it.
But not hurtful, disrespectful sex.
Now we have people out their taking a crap on people, choking them, fisting, and more.
Maybe 1 in 100k actually like it....but I bet most it happens to don't truly enjoy it.
I'm more into the idea of two consenting adults have pleasurable fun.
 

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Ok?!? Lol I'm as sexual as they come, and people always ask why I don't do porn. My honest answer, I've never seen any that looks like anything I would enjoy.... Sorry, I just like to have fun and feel good... I thought that's what sex was for?? Guess I'm a square hahaha
Well said IMO.
Sex is sex, yes i truly enjoy it and lots of it.
But not hurtful, disrespectful sex.
Now we have people out their taking a crap on people, choking them, fisting, and more.
Maybe 1 in 100k actually like it....but I bet most it happens to don't truly enjoy it.
I'm more into the idea of two consenting adults have pleasurable fun.
 

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The problem with porn is a lot of it is abusive and degrading, which is fine and fun when you're into that. BUT teens who get their sex Ed from porn and have no other sources are thinking this is the norm, and what sex always looks like, which isn't the case. Girls are losing their virginity and getting choked and slapped in the process because boys think this is what you're supposed to do...
Just some food for thought.
Actually most porn is just straight sex. The extreme stuff is the minority.

There is lots of other sources for information about sexuality other than porn nowdays, we don't live in the 50s. Boys who are actually having sex would have had sex ed, and conventional sexuality is portrayed all over the place in mainstream media, so it is not like they don't know what normal behavior is.
 

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While the readily available internet pornography of the internet can have a big finger leveled at it, let's not forget the music industry, the film industry, the tv industry and the magazine industry. In short, all forms of media and advertising.

Before that, it's school yard gossip.

*shrug*

People have always had a hard on for something the find distasteful, meanwhile ignoring all the other things that for some reason don't bother them.

Those children are being shaped and molded into hyper sexualized beings well before they come into contact with R rated images and films. It's going on under their parents noses, and nobody actually cares... because everyone loves their R-rated murder porn (thanks South Park!). You can blame pornography all you want, but it's really and end game realization of years of conditioning.

Speaking of Pam and Porn, last I checked, she was the last nude model for Playboy. Her convictions don't seem to run too deep.
 

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Most of what has been stated here is all the aspects of how our society is sexualized by all types media.
What the articles was talking about how porn was effecting married couples..partly because of what the mail or female was expecting from their sexual relationship , and not getting this porn experience.

OBVIOUSLY something is missing in the sexual relationship in the first place or they would not be going to porn . AND of course that leads to other stuff that put marriages at risk , like affairs and seeing escorts.

Ofo course the articles does not seem to acknowledge other causes of marital problems or look to dealing with those.. It seem porn is the culprit in marriage discourse.
 

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I doubt that porn has anything to do with unrealistic expectations. Those existed way before porn as we know it did. Porn came from them, not the other way around. The fantasies came first, and have always been around. Porn is just an expression of what has been there as long as people have walked the earth.

The difference now compared to the old days is that people are much better informed about sexual matters as a result of the existence of porn. Before their fantasies would have been fed by their imagination and conversations with their friends. So, now people can discuss it openly whereas before those sorts of things would have been kept in the closet and spoken of in hushed whispers.
So, let's say you are right in this position... I'd say that while we may have had imagination/fantasy about what we wanted out of a sexual experience, we as you pointed out, kept it in the closet.... Porn took it out of the closet and made it a public discussion and I'd suggest that once it was up on the big screen and many smaller ones guys started thinking...hey I'm not a sicko they are making movies about it. Suddenly it was o.k. to want blowjobs and anal and....... It was great, except suddenly all the women expected men to be hung like John Holmes....

I'm no longer working in "the oldest profession" Judging by your comment I don't think you know what a regular day at the office for me is.. I don't have sex with my clients. But I do an endless amount of taboo acts limited only by imagination.

BDSM has been around for a long time, before pornography. To some extent the stereotype is true. There is a large number of men in high powered positions who see mistresses. The older guys seem to typically have gotten into it for stress relief, at some point in their life they felt adventurous or something happened in their life to trigger a fetish...

Once I get to know my clients I always ask what brought them down this path...

The majority of the younger crowd I see tell me they got into it from watching extreme taboo porn. Regular vanilla porn bores them. Over time they notice they needed to watch more and more extreme stuff to get off..

But even when I was an escort I noticed the correlation between porn consumption, performance and request for certain sex acts...Men who grew up jerking off to magazines are different in bed then guys who grew up jerking off to internet porn.
Keep in mind this is a generalization...Many younger guys seem disconnected during sex.. it's feels like they're jerking off into you..they jackhammer (if they can even keep it up..a surprising number in their 20's suffer from ED) The rougher guys tend to come from the "new age crowd". Over time requests for slapping, spanking, choking, COF have notably increased..
The older guys grew up being introduced to sex during high school the old fashioned way...spending time with living, breathing human females. Not from sitting in front of a computer screen clicking & jerking away for hours at a time....It's much easier to have a connection with mature guys. & they're more likely to treat an sp as a human being, not simply a fuck toy.

edit.. I'm not trying to go out of my way to slam younger guys.. But the truth is when i was an escort I learned to quietly screen most of them out. Now as a domme I do enjoy my time with the younger crowd. The young ones (20's) who are actually serious bookers compromise the vast majority of my callers who book sissy slut sessions. What got them interested?? Porn. Usually shemale/transsexual porn. This type of session I do often.

Sure some men have been getting off on dressing up in women's clothing and getting fucked by a woman wearing a strapon (or a real transexual) for a long time now, long before high speed internet porn. But this sort of request seems to be exploding in popularity (in my realm at least)
Porn has made this type of play "o.k." for guys that probably would never have tried it otherwise......because it is play.......the ."oh you must be gay factor" has been taken out of it through porn. But I think it's fair to say you got just as many requests, if not more that you wanted nothing to do with...all based on porn.

I know what she is saying, my point was that is how it has always been, porn has nothing to do with it. Older guys have a more relaxed natural approach simply because they are older (and hence more experienced) than younger guys. Older guys want a sexual experience to recall their youth, younger guys want to satisfy a fantasy that is not readily available to them (in general). It has always been that way.
In general, that is pretty damn general......being older does not give me a more relaxed approach to sex, it just makes it more of a take it or leave it situation. It's not all about.."but I bought you dinner." One thing I found is that in getting older I tend to spend more time exploring some of the things I didn't get to do in my younger days.

The problem with porn is a lot of it is abusive and degrading, which is fine and fun when you're into that. BUT teens who get their sex Ed from porn and have no other sources are thinking this is the norm, and what sex always looks like, which isn't the case. Girls are losing their virginity and getting choked and slapped in the process because boys think this is what you're supposed to do...
Just some food for thought.
Yup....and when you find somebody that plays that way, you can have a lot of fun with it, but the problem is not everybody knows how to limit the play, or that it is jut that..play.

Actually most porn is just straight sex. The extreme stuff is the minority.

There is lots of other sources for information about sexuality other than porn nowdays, we don't live in the 50s. Boys who are actually having sex would have had sex ed, and conventional sexuality is portrayed all over the place in mainstream media, so it is not like they don't know what normal behavior is.
Depends on where you go on the internet and I think more people are getting thier porn fix there then in dirty little movie theaters. As to normal sexuality in the mainstream media..well, these kids also know about censorship......I'd say many probably consider mainstream media sex as....censorship sex. not the fun and games kind that they want to have.
 

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How exactly do you know how porn isn't affecting guys? :confused: Do you have extensive personal sexual experience with men aged 18-90?

Have you done any research on the subject? I find it fascinating how neuroscientists are finding high speed internet porn can literally rewire the brain & erode the prefrontal cortex. The prefrontal cortex is responsible for executive functioning/impulse control. This is the area of the brain that typically matures by age 25. It's whats supposed to make a man behave like an adult....

I'm not anti-porn. But at the same time I'm well aware it isn't completely harmless...
Because I am older than you and have experienced life before porn was readily available, and the attitudes of young males that we are talking about was the same back then as it is now.

So, obviously porn is not the cause of it. People may have more information about sexual practice readily available, but that is about it.

And one more thing, most boys don't engage in extreme behavior when having sex with girls in their peer group. SOME boys do. And back then it was exactly the same. The pseudo-rape state of mind that exists in a significant percentage of the population has always been there. Porn has nothing to do with that. It is just how that sub-population is wired.
 

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So, let's say you are right in this position... I'd say that while we may have had imagination/fantasy about what we wanted out of a sexual experience, we as you pointed out, kept it in the closet.... Porn took it out of the closet and made it a public discussion and I'd suggest that once it was up on the big screen and many smaller ones guys started thinking...hey I'm not a sicko they are making movies about it. Suddenly it was o.k. to want blowjobs and anal and....... It was great, except suddenly all the women expected men to be hung like John Holmes....

Depends on where you go on the internet and I think more people are getting thier porn fix there then in dirty little movie theaters. As to normal sexuality in the mainstream media..well, these kids also know about censorship......I'd say many probably consider mainstream media sex as....censorship sex. not the fun and games kind that they want to have.
The only thing porn did was make it more socially acceptable to talk about those things in public, but in the old days they happened just as much, it just was not something that was mentioned in polite society. Go back to the 40s and 50s, when contraceptives where not all that readily available and getting pregnant out of wedlock was a social death sentence...people still engaged in sexual activity, but in a "way" that did not risk pregnancy. How do you suppose they did it?

Most porn on the internet is just regular sex/oral sex. In fact, the biggest porn networks on the internet are actually soft porn sites (such as Met-Art and sites like that). There is extreme stuff out there, but usually those sites are relatively small.
 

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The guys and girls that are here are different then the average person. I won't say we all think a like or that everyone is totally open minded,because from many of the comments on thread I would say many are not ,but we are open to discuss sex and participate in different type of sexually activity then the average man and women.

In most cases we are dealing with are own hang ups or issues a bout sex , relationships and the whole dam thing.

Yes I think Play boy and like magazine that came up in the 50s and 60s , and have hung around for the last 62 yrs have help a lot in opening people's eyes to the wonders of sex and erotic way of life. Something that most people still hide away even couples ..But for those that want to explore those higher levels of sexualty xxx mags and porn has shown them the gateway .Has shown people that sex can be many things and all types of fantasy are acceptable and practiced by some one some where .
So your not alone in the way you get aroused turned on and get off.

As for men and women seeing escorts , I think porn has promoted it and again made it more acceptable for a man to follow through on see one.Just as the internet has exposed more people to readily available porn of all types , so has it shown the men all the readily available girls that are escorting in your local area and around the world. That kind of exposure again makes the boys and men think that it is OK to pay for sex. And the quality of girls that are working in this business is amazing . Many are as beautifully and sexy as any porn star or actress we see on TV and we have access to them in reality.

That is partly because so many young girls were exposed to porn by there boy friends and often older adults Many of the younger generation grew up in a home where one or both of there parents watch porn , so they were exposed to it and maybe even the Frank take about sex.
So it probably the reason why many young girls were able to accept looking for work in the sex trade, it has been part of the culture they grew up in.

Of course it not that simple or acceptable by everyone..and for us that are involved in the seeing escorts or being a sex trade worker , there is a lot more going on ,as we all are awear.

Porn a lone does not cause the problem but the free and open accesses that we have to porn and the sexual content that is present on the internet and general media has had a significant impact on our western society in the last 50 something yrs.

. Of course this has happened many time though decades and centuries of man's existence .Buyou it is allso fighting a trend of informed morality that is dictated by religion , laws and the presumed moral attitude of society. This has all way excited and the articles we are talking about is just a small part of that movement which dominates how people are judged on their sexual behaviour and views .Porn falls under the dicription of morally corrupt as does see escorts or being in the sex trade .Where a few generation may be more accepting when they know about it and know people in it , there are still far more people that reject it and are very judgemental and actively working to rid the world of it and the people that involved in it.
 
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It is nice to see this has turned into a discussion about pornography and it's affects rather than Pamela Anderson I think that fading movie and TV personalities sometimes say and do outrageous things to keep the fame going so that they can get more money out of it .




As far as porn goes I
Gotten to hate the free porn tube sights As they always seem to have some loud annoying advertisement that plays in a pop up in the background . just as the video starts . Usually some guy yelling about his secret to success system . Yea that is what I want to listen to while I look at a nude woman to masturbate to. Some guy yelling at the top of his lungs the secret to flipping houses to become a millionaire . that is a real sexual turn on "sarcasm "

I have a collection of porn on a separate disk but it all is stuff that teaches you something and not just material to masturbate to .. Like for example one video on how to do anal sex I found out it is bad idea for pregnant women to have anal sex as they are prone to hemorrhoid's and constipation and anal sex could be dangerous for pregnant women.
 
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