Obama declares end of US combat mission in Iraq

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gee didnt think id ever see them pull out. Wonder which country they'll invade next?


President Barack Obama photographed from the Rose Garden delivers a primetime televised address marking the the end of combat mission in Iraq from the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, Tuesday, Aug. 31, 2010. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama on Tuesday ended the U.S. combat mission in Iraq, declaring no victory after seven years of bloodshed, and telling Americans and the world: "It is time to turn the page."

From the Oval Office, where George W. Bush first announced the invasion that would come to define his presidency, Obama addressed millions who were divided over the war in his country and around the world. Fiercely opposed to the war from the start, he said the United States "has paid a huge price" to give Iraqis the chance to shape their future.

In a telling sign of the domestic troubles weighing on the United States and his own presidency, Obama turned much of the emphasis in a major war address to the dire rate of U.S. joblessness. He said the Iraq war had stripped America of money needed for its own prosperity, and he called for an economic commitment at home to rival the grit and purpose of a military campaign.

The speech, lasting slightly less than 20 minutes, was only his second address from the Oval Office. Obama looked directly into the TV camera, hands clasped in front of him on his desk, family photos and the U.S. and presidential flags behind him. His tone was sombre.

Even as he tries to cap one of the most divisive chapters in recent American history, Obama is escalating the conflict in Afghanistan. He pledged anew that the United States would keep up the fight in that war, the longest once since Vietnam.

In Iraq, for all the finality, the war is not over. More Americans probably will die. The country is plagued by violence and political instability, and Iraqis struggle with constant shortages of electricity and water.

Obama is keeping up to 50,000 troops in Iraq for support and counterterrorism training, and the last forces are not due to leave until the end of 2011 at the latest.

As the commander in chief over a war he opposed, Obama took pains to thank troops for their sacrifice but made clear he saw the moment more as a mistake ended than a mission accomplished. He spoke of strained relations with allies, anger at home and a "huge price" of the highest order.

The toll includes more than 4,400 U.S. troops dead and many more Iraqis, tens of thousands more Americans wounded, and hundreds of billions of dollars spent.

To underscore his point of ending the divisiveness over Iraq, Obama said he had called Bush, whom he had taunted so often in the 2008 presidential campaign. He prominently praised the former Republican president in the heart of his speech.

"It's well known that he and I disagreed about the war from its outset," Obama said. "Yet no one could doubt President Bush's support for our troops, or his love of country and commitment to our security."

In the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the Iraq war began with bipartisan congressional backing, based on what turned out to be flawed intelligence that Iraq was stockpiling weapons of mass destruction.

Today, Iraq is in political turmoil, its leaders unable to form a new government long after March elections that left no clear winner. The uncertainty has created an opening for insurgents to pound Iraqi security forces, hardly the conditions the United States envisioned for this transition deadline, which Obama announced 18 months ago.

Obama pressed Iraq's leaders, saying it was time to show some urgency and be accountable.

At once, Obama sought to assure Americans that the war was finally winding down, and yet also promise Iraq and those watching across the Middle East that the U.S. was not simply walking away.

"Our combat mission is ending," he said, "but our commitment to Iraq's future is not."

The American public has largely moved on from the Iraq war. Almost forgotten is the intensity that defined the debate for much of the decade and drove people into streets in protest.

Yet what grew out of the war was something broader: Bush's doctrine of pre-emptive force against perceived threats. Running for office, Obama said the war inflamed anti-American sentiments and undermined U.S. standing in the world in addition to stealing the focus from Afghanistan.

He made mention of it again on Tuesday: "Indeed, one of the lessons of our effort in Iraq is that American influence around the world is not a function of military force alone."

Obama, though, also was presented with a tricky moment — standing firm in his position without disparaging the sacrifice and courage of those who fought.

Earlier in the day, at Fort Bliss, Texas, a post that has endured losses during the war, Obama tried to tell the stretched military that all the work and bloodshed in Iraq was not in vain. He asserted that because of the U.S. efforts in the Iraq war, "America is more secure."

Not everyone was ready to embrace the White House view of the day.

"Over the past several months, we've often heard about ending the war in Iraq but not much about winning the war in Iraq," said John Boehner, Republican leader in the House of Representatives.
 
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Ya i noticed that part with the 50,000 troops left. I never expected them to pull out completely. Maybe this speach to get people to focus on something else besides the unemployment situation.


Maybe you should look up the part about leaving 50,000 non combat troops behind in Iraq. They aint goin NOWHERE!
 

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When will world leaders realize peace is not something that will ever come to that region? They don't want it, they don't know how to live with it. It is a tribal, nomadic mentality with a mantra of any eye for an eye. Their philosophy is - Me against You, Me and You against the guy next door, the three of us against the next street... and on and on. If it weren't for oil and strategic positioning to obtain oil, nobody would give a shit about that area. There will never be lasting peace in that part of the world.
 
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Ya i noticed that part with the 50,000 troops left. I never expected them to pull out completely. Maybe this speach to get people to focus on something else besides the unemployment situation.
Obama is just trying to set himself up for re-election in 2 years.
He will state he ended the Gulf war and saved the country 100 of billions, and of course, saved lives...when in fact, they should have never of been there in the first place. We can all thank Dick Cheney and Rumsfield for pushing this war on the world.
 

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lol, The crazy yankees have given Abrams tanks, Bradley Fighting Vehicles, Helicopters and Modern Fighter Jets to the Iraqi military. That's bound to work out well.
I doubt they gave them anything except what they didn't need or what wasn't worth fixing. The Americans signed a $6,000,000,000.00 weapons deal with the Iragi's so why give anything away ?
The Abrams they are getting are a dumbed down version, with no DU plates and a less sophisticated sighting system.The Bradley's are getting dated and are due for replacement anyway. The helo's will also have reduced threat capacity as will the Jets, most of which are at the end of their operational life span.
 

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the economic war machine just moved a few miles over to Afghanistan.
Most of those troops might not even get the chance to go home and just get reassigned in Afghanistan. A country sitting on a trillion dollars worth of lithium. Bound to be the world's " Saudi Arabia of Lithium ". By 2015, when the demand for lithium becomes far greater than the world's supply then the poppy business might suddenly become secondary. :) The more it becomes valuable if the present leader of Bolivia remains in power.

After about US$ 700 Billion spent and more than 4,000 American lives lost on a country that didn't have weapons of mass destruction to start with, the US really nothing to answer for its continued presence there.

It's election time in November. The American economy is still in bad shape. The economic stimulus and government spending saved it from the unimaginable. The ratings of the President keeps dropping and his Democrat Party is in danger of losing control of both the House and the Senate. There is no fix quick to perk up the economy in the coming months. Offering tax credits to business and helping home owners with their mortgages won't save the Democrats from getting badly beaten come November.

My prediction: Republicans will end up control of the House and the Democrats will hang on to the Senate by about 2 Senators. Then the stock market flies and becomes bullish again as the last time there was a Democrat President ( Bill Clinton ) and a Republican controlled House - Wall Street never had it so good. :) :)
 

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i spent a lot of time in afghanistan while a child of the 60's , it was amazing then.
the russians went in and out ,
they were there for one reason..... the most pure Uranium in the world and mined out 3 mines then got the fuk out.
the yanks know of several more deposits and will exploit that as well then get the fuk out,
the Afghans have never ever been conquered in history,
alex the great , ghengis Kong the Brits , and the ruskies ,were all beaten by this proud people.
and at one time the best black hash in the world. ;)
 

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lol, However, the armour on the Abrams won't be a secret once the various other "friends" of Iraq have had a chance to look at it. The avionics on the F14 won't be a mystery to the other "friends" once they have had a chance to look at the system. etc.

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Actually the F-14 has been grounded for several years now and is no longer being used by the US Navy in favour of the F-18 that will soon be getting replaced by the F-35.
 
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