Never fall in Love with a provider

[pussy lover]

this is gonna sound cold:

if your friend joined the biz for money, i would say forget about her as she is prob high maintenance. If she joined for the fun of it, do you really want a girlfriend like that? PLus it doesn't matter if you changed your age...if she did read this post, she obviously know who you are...sp's are not stupid. Hell, even Meiko knew her and she does not work there anymore. Its time for you to move on and out. There is nothing for u here. Even if you get a chance to talk to her... the cycle will prob be repeated. So save everyone alot of heartache and move on. Thats the best you do for her and yourself.


peace dude

 

[rollerboy]

So very refreshing and so very honest. personally, i'd have a very hard time respecting any man who was actually OK with my job.

I had one fellow say to me "any man who thinks it's OK, isn't human" I tend to feel the same. Probably why i'm single.

It's that "Man" gene. The Y chromosome, being rather small, only encodes for a limited number of instructions, one of them being "If another man plows your girl, you must either fuck him up, or get yer ass beat tryin'."

Oddly, having another woman hopping over the fence is...very hot!

"I'm single." Hm. My favorite words.

 

[maverick73]

Hey Mav73. It may be just that. The answer lies in one of the two choices:
1. I work for the CIA
OR
2. I don't know if she checks these boards out and don't want to give up that I was here chatting about it.

And for further protection you can apply my "I'm 80% in this age group, 20% in that, 20% or 80% that I'm lying while in a particular age group, and an 80% or 20% chance I'm pulling a double reversal" protection scheme.

 

[maverick73]

Using the word "control" caught my attention. This statement is suggesting that the girl in question should become financially dependent on maverickghost, hence giving him control over her and her lifestyle choice of becoming an SP. Rather than depending on someone else to provide financial comfort for her, perhaps she's seeking control over herself.

You misunderstood. I meant that maverickghost (and everybody for that matter) has control over their financial situation. It doesn't matter what kind of family you come from, or what education level you have, if you want it bad enough, and do what it takes, anybody can be financially sucessful and then some.

I am not suggesting for 1 minute that mg's gf become dependent on mg and let him control her. However, it was somewhat suggested that one of the main reasons she became an SP is for the money. I am suggesting that if that is the main motivation, having more money for both of them would be 1 solution to have her not be an SP... this would then allow both more time to discuss other options for both to lead a happy fulfilling life and have a mutually satisfying relationship.

 

[maverick73]

So very refreshing and so very honest. personally, i'd have a very hard time respecting any man who was actually OK with my job.

I had one fellow say to me "any man who thinks it's OK, isn't human" I tend to feel the same. Probably why i'm single.

Over my short term "career" ... I've gone from being ok with it, to not being ok with it, to being semi-ok with it if it was for the short term and not a long term career choice.

Just curious, if you are no longer an SP, why are you still listed on that Agency's website?

 

[maverick73]

Mav..

I never said I was no longer an SP, what I said was, I no longer escort. I don't work for an agency either, it's a massage studio.

Ok so sort of like Massagegirl? No sexual services offered, just sensual massage? BTW, your inbox is full.

 

[rollerboy]

Hey, didn't you retire a few months ago, hot stuff?

Yup I did, sorry about that cheif. I'm no longer an escort.

I never said I was no longer an SP, what I said was, I no longer escort. I don't work for an agency either, it's a massage studio.

Oh you naughty girl!

This, my friend, is the trouble with fire breathing damsels. 'Specially the ones with killer eyes.

 

[Ariel]

Rollerboy

The "Love Boat theme song? Lol. Now i'm going to have that song stuck in my head but no it wasn't although that was a favorite show of mine

"So very refreshing and so very honest. personally, i'd have a very hard time respecting any man who was actually OK with my job."
I understand that Alexandria but would you not have a hell of a lot of respect for a man that really was? Assuming you absolutely knew he loved you?

 

[Cosmo]

Ariel likes to dream, I think

 

[Ariel]

Ok well you stated you would have a hard time respecting a man that was ok with your job. Thats completely understandable and i can relate. There are so many facets of a relationship. Its seems controlling to me that someone could not handle my job as long as he knew i loved him and came home to him at the end of the day and met all his needs why should he be concerned? As long as he knew i wasn't falling for clients what would he have to worry about? Why would it matter otherwise? I would totally respect the fact that someone was ok with my job as long as i knew he loved me. If i questioned that of course i would probably think" Why don't you care what i'm doing". I've been in the situation so maybe its easier for me to understand.

 

[stryker]

As I've said before, I'd walk away from this job for love any day and NEVER look back.

And I know you would sexy,,,,and ya,,,you do have Beautiful eyes!

 

[Lurker 123]

There are so many facets of a relationship. Its seems controlling to me that someone could not handle my job as long as he knew i loved him and came home to him at the end of the day and met all his needs why should he be concerned? As long as he knew i wasn't falling for clients what would he have to worry about? Why would it matter otherwise? I would totally respect the fact that someone was ok with my job as long as i knew he loved me. QUOTE]

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May I share my light a bit Ariel! Sometimes love is selfish! You want to possess the person you love. That is exactly where marriage come in . In a way you don't want to share your love one with anyone else!

In love we have to tide both the spiritual side and physical side together. According to your statement,you have no problem to be a loyal partner spiritually,but physically your partner will have to share with your clients.In a way it doesn't work with this formula of tiding the physical and spiritual aspects together!

I hope this makes sense!

 

[jeffu]

Don't fall for an SP

Ha...the ultimate conflict between one's heart and head. I don't think we really have much say in who we "fall for"-- we just "fall", that's the whole idea. Do we have any control over: how we feel when we look into someone's eyes and hold them close? how much we have in common with them? or that feeling deep within that tells you "wow! you could spend hours with this person and never stop smiling inside." The answer, I think, is largely "no". Our emotional heart is just as involuntary as our physical one. It's mostly what one is on the inside, I think, that makes us truly fall for them and if there's a woman out there who's right for me in every way then I suspect it would take more than something external like what she does for a living to keep me from falling for her.

That said though, I concur with everyone who sees that the practical side of this-- actually having a committed relationship with an SP-- would be very difficult for both parties. I don't see how any man could be content with the love of his life having sex with random strangers. The foundation of any worthwhile relationship is trust and devotion (from both people) and it seems that from this angle such a relationship would be doomed from the start. Yes, I know that love is more than sex, and that in principle it is possible for a woman in this profession to be inwardly devoted to only one man, and for a man to trust that his girlfriend is offering up only her body, and not her heart; however, how many of us are truly strong enough to pull it off? I consider myself a pretty strong and confident person, however I know that no matter how much I tried to trust someone entirely I can't bring myself to say that I would be completely comfortable in such a relationship. Call it a defense mechanism or something. When you give your heart to someone you make yourself vulnerable-- it's not an easy thing to do-- and I think it would be incredibly difficult for one to do this-- to the degree necessary for a very strong relationship-- with someone while they were in this profession.

 

[BS Detector]

So very refreshing and so very honest. personally, i'd have a very hard time respecting any man who was actually OK with my job.

I guess that blows the concept of 'unconditional love' all to hell.

If he tries to get her out of the business, he'll be accused of:
1) having a white knight complex,
2) trying to be, or come across as, a savior
3) trying to make her dependant on him
4) "having stalker tendencies".

 

[BS Detector]

Furthermore, anything worth having is rarely easy to get. Out of the girls I've dated long term, I've found empirically that the harder it was to get the girl, the more rewarding and higher quality the girl was.

Yeah right, so you can be called a stalker. Guys get so sick of reading how ladies like to "play the game", "want to be persued" etc, etc. Yet when they do...

This actually happened (not necessarily me, not necessarily an SP btw) where she said she was not ready for a relationship YET.

Later when things not really going anywhere, asked face to face, if you are not interested for ANY reason (looks, etc_, tell me now. Got the old & tired, "it's not you, it's me" line but never a "I'm not interested in you.

Said, "I'll be there when you're ready".
Have strangers get told you are a stalker by her "friends".

If you ask, do not get a straight answer and don't persue further, then you:
1) probably really weren't interested
2) are a wimp
3) a wimp that probably was not really interested

 

[rollerboy]

Another point I'd like to make is, it's very difficult for most people to accept this profession as an everyday, ordinary job, because you know what...it's not. It conflicts with the very root of love and commitment and unless you've sat there and watched the love of your life put on her make-up and dress in her finest, sexiest lingerie so that she can walk out your door and boff some stranger, or worse yet a long term regular guy for a few hundred bucks, then you can't really understand. I'm sure it breaks their hearts and I'd never, ever want to put someone through that again.

Brutally and achingly honest. "No" is such a simple word. It's the first one I ever learned or truly understood. Being in love is electric. "No, you can't go!" is so obviously the right answer, that I can hardly believe that anyone needs to ask the question.

"No" would be my only answer to this test. And it is a test. Any woman I can imagine being with would expect and need me to say it under the circumstances. This is basic human nature. It controls us; we do not control it.

"And where does the most beautiful woman in the world think she's going tonight?" If you can't think of the right words to say, just kiss her stupid!!! It's why we're strong enough to sweep a girl off her feet. Sometimes you must be a Cave Man, if you are any sort of man at all. I would rather be slapped and cursed, than let her go without at least trying to stop her.

Didn't you guys learn anything at Man School?

 

[flexxx]

If it was only that simple rollerboy. The caveman must sometimes leave his cave in search of food for days at a time in order to provide sustenance for his family. What happens when he leaves???

 

[Ariel]

I skipped through reading the comments but i think we can all agree love is crazy, often unexpected and sometimes you just have to go with it even if its not ideal.In the real world some are lucky, some get and stay involved even when they shouldn't and some continue on until they find the ideal.I grew up with my parents adoring one another and "walked in on on them" a few times They are like 2 peas in a pod. Insanely in love. My Mom had a terminal illness and my dad was worse than my Mom. He wouoldn't have survived without her. Thank god she beat it. That showed me love. I know real, true and unconditional love is possible but its rare. I'd guess at least 75% of couples are unhappy. Too many people marry when they are young and don't know what they are doing. I think the long lasting relationships are those that develop affter a person/s both have reached 30yrs old.

 

[BS Detector]

BSD..

I think if the feelings mutual, you would know right away. I also feel that if you fell in love with an SP and she with you, that question would not have to be asked.

I'm not so sure the term 'unconditional love' is really fair to use here. Maybe for a mother to her child, or a sibling relationship, so hear me out

What if your gf was cheating on you every chance she got, would that be OK? What if your gf was a gambling addict and stole money from you repeatedly, would that be ok? What if she weaved a web of lies about herself, and you found out the truth much later, say after you fell in love. How unconditional will your feelings still be for her?

It's not all black and white, and it's unrealistic to think that 'love conquers all' when really it doesn't

Another point I'd like to make is, it's very difficult for most people to accept this profession as an everyday, ordinary job, because you know what...it's not. It conflicts with the very root of love and commitment and unless you've sat there and watched the love of your life put on her make-up and dress in her finest, sexiest lingerie so that she can walk out your door and boff some stranger, or worse yet a long term regular guy for a few hundred bucks, then you can't really understand. I'm sure it breaks their hearts and I'd never, ever want to put someone through that again.

it's not nice and its not fun, and anyone who says it doesn't bother them is either A) a liar, B)seriously deficient in the emotional department, C)after the cash, or D) just with her for the sexual fantasy

Am I being too honest here?

If she was cheating every chance she had or stealing (and I had not fallen yet) I most likely would not even fall for such a person. Unconditional love is unconditional love and there are no rules (that I am aware of) saying it has to be a mother/child etc. relationship. I have had it from a dog once. I didn't say unconditional love can't hurt either. Yes, over repeated 'indescretions', one might even go their separate ways. I am sure you have heard or relationships that went in opposite directions yet they still loved one another. And...One may even fall 'out' of love, not saying it can never happen.

As far as watching her get dressed to go out and boff some strangers...I didn't say one had to like it but if you do genuinely love someone, you may tolerate it for as long as your tolerance allows. After all, don't the ladies themselves here always say (and I agree) that they should be treated like any other person out there, It's just a job and doesn't define the person etc? I am assuming that means ALL of the time and not just when convenient?? Perhaps you are suggesting a guy should simply control his heart like he controls his actions and just flick a switch and not fall in love? If he can't, he's in a lose, lose situation because if he's "OK" with it, you say he's one of the things you listed above BUT...If he tries to help her out of it (to repeat myself), he'll be accused of:
1) having a white knight complex,
2) trying to be, or come across as, a savior
3) trying to make her dependant on him so he can 'control' her
4) "having stalker tendencies".

And I don't need 'her' money as I'm sure, at the risk of sounding arrogant, my net worth stacks up against most.

 

[hugedman]

As I've said before, I'd walk away from this job for love any day and NEVER look back.

And I hope you will find your soulmate soon and living happily ever after....
Good luck, ~A~