Asian Fever

My take on this hobby...

superman88

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I enjoy much of the humour that is shared on this board, but I find that the greatest pitfall of the written word is that crucial components of communication (tone, inflection - even context) are often not adequately conveyed and this can be problematic with regards to interpreting the material..
Right? Just about any discussion board is like this, though. Doesn't matter the subject matter. the subtleties of conversation/debate are lost.
Thanks for these comments. I wholeheartedly agree with both of them. It took me a while to figure this out for myself.

There were a couple of times when I attempted to make some snide or witty remark in response to a post but ended up being misunderstood, attacked and even given a bit of timeout because the humour in my remark didn't carry through. Since then I've learned that it's better sometimes to just bite my tongue than it is to try and be wise.

I find also it sometimes takes much more strength of character to stay silent than it is to speak out. Unless I have something to share that will add to a discussion, rectify some untruth, or steer someone in the right direction, I tend to stay out of it. "Speech is silver; silence is golden" as the old saying goes.

I mainly stick to reviews now and try to help out my fellow pooner as best I can. I thought eclipca made some interesting comments at the start of this thread and I'm sorry to see that it's been hijacked. But I hope that doesn't deter other pooners from sharing their insights about the industry as I always find others' perspectives informative whether I agree or disagree with them or not.

Thanks again ladies for sharing. Two classy comments from two classy ladies.

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-Yi-

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They are the same guys who think it is a huge insult/end of the world if an SP does not promptly answer their texts or emails. Instead of waiting for an answer they send ten or fifteen more...the same day.
Excuse me on bringing the thread back to this sentence.

I've been trying to pre-book a session with an SP since December.
- My 1st email to her was asking for her availability for January, which she replied promptly.
- My 2nd email was to provide her information she required about me. She didn't reply until after receiving my 3rd email.
- I waited 2 weeks before sending a 3rd email, a few days after New Year. She replied on the same day, asking for a specific time to meet.
- So I sent her a 4th email, stating the day and time that I can meet with her. No reply. I waited 2 more days before I send a 5th email as a reminder, and it has been over a week since then, and still no reply.

So generally speaking, if an SP doesn't reply to an email, how long should a pooner wait before sending another email to her?
Also, in my situation, should I send a 6th email or just drop it and find another SP?
 

westwoody

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In your case I would phone her and if she does not answer move on to someone else. She may have all the business she wants. Move on and forget her.

I hate when the lady says she will give the exact address/room/apartment once you are in the area. So you drive across town to her place....and she doesn't answer. It even happens to guys who drive 200 km into town.
 

escapefromstress

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I've always done things differently. I have an effective screening process, and if I trust a client enough to book an appointment with him, I trust him enough to give him my address at the time of booking - even if it's a few days in advance. I also do it as a sign of good faith that I will be there when he shows up. I only get about one no-show per year, and those ones weird me out, but not enough to make all other clients wait and wonder.

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westwoody

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One SP used to brag on here about standing up customers because a better prospect came along.

Not giving the exact location is fine, and understandable. Being an inconsiderate jerk is not. Goes both ways.
 

Cami Parker

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I still think this is a great insightful and helpful post. Any smart business highly values customer feedback and uses it to build and improve their brand. That's why they send out those little survey cards. I wish I could send out a survey after every date! Lol
 

badbadboy

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I still think this is a great insightful and helpful post. Any smart business highly values customer feedback and uses it to build and improve their brand. That's why they send out those little survey cards. I wish I could send out a survey after every date! Lol
I love filling out those survey cards and if the service is excellent, I say so!

That's a great idea Cami :nod:
 

superman88

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I still think this is a great insightful and helpful post. Any smart business highly values customer feedback and uses it to build and improve their brand. That's why they send out those little survey cards. I wish I could send out a survey after every date! Lol
Unfortunately this industry is much like the restaurant industry where people vote with their feet. That is, if the customer didn't like the restaurant, they'd never go back, leaving the restaurant management wondering why the place is so empty. Fortunately for the restaurant industry however, there are consultants and books one can refer to in order to improve one's business and to learn about the pitfalls to avoid.

I'm not so sure if there are similar sources of information for SPs just starting out in the business. It seems most girls improve through word of mouth with other SPs or they just learn on the fly. But it's such a shame to have to reinvent the wheel each time. It would be nice for young SPs to have some sort of experienced mentor or madame they could learn from. In that sense, starting with an agency may be a good place to begin even though they may be giving up a good 60% to the house. It's much like an apprentice cook who may work at a restaurant for very little (even for free) just to learn from a great chef and how a business is properly run. Even though working for an agency has its own problems, it seems to me a better scenario than working for some pimp or handler. While a lot of new girls have the looks, service, and attitude to become an SP, I think very few have the business acumen.

As a client, I too vote with my feet. If a girl's breath smelled of cigarettes, if her incall was dirty, or if her pussy stank, I wouldn't tell her. I just wouldn't repeat. It seems rude to me to tell a girl after a session that she had bad breath. The irony is that if someone doesn't tell her, how would she know? How would she get feedback on how to improve her business? And it's not just negative things. There are more positive things that can make things better for clients: a glass of water to start, fresh fluffy towels, a variety of condoms. These are minor, but nice touches. And clients do make note of them.

PERB is one of the few resources where SPs can get good insight into what makes for a good experience for a client. And PERB is one of the few places where clients can give anonymous feedback on their experience to an SP without having to do so in person. Of course, reviews aren't always perfect. I think sometimes they can be a little too harsh and damning to the point where an SPs business is seriously harmed. But I've learned to write critical reviews in a way that is still beneficial to other pooners yet not overtly damaging to the SP. It takes some practice.

I think many new SPs can learn much from a client who's been seeing girls for over a decade. What do they like? What don't they like? What to avoid? Even though I haven't been seeing SPs for very long myself, I could tell within the first five minutes of an encounter how well the session is going to turn out just by the way the girl greets me and by the condition of the incall. This is valuable information that SPs can sometimes only get from boards like PERB. I think that's what makes eclipca's original post so valuable to SPs and clients both. While experienced SPs may find "My take on the hobby..." posts condescending, I think newer SPs would be wise to take note. To ignore such posts would be at their own peril. Just take it with a grain of salt.

S
 

hankmoody

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I still think this is a great insightful and helpful post. Any smart business highly values customer feedback and uses it to build and improve their brand. That's why they send out those little survey cards. I wish I could send out a survey after every date! Lol
You can. I've traded emails with most of the ladies i've seen, at least the ones i enjoyed. Only one asked me after what i liked, what she could do different, and what my perfect scenario would be. Shouldn't be much of a surprise she's my atf.

Also good points above by superman. How are new girls to know if they are providing a good session or not? If they have not visited a top quality sp themselves, (or had some hands on training with one) they could very well think they are providing A+ service when they are not. Do sp's ever visit each other? Trade for trade so to speak?
 
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Cami Parker

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I agree 100%! I've had a lot of new girls contact me asking for help or advice. I'm always happy to do what I can. Like you said, I've also arranged for a couple new ladies to join me with a well trusted client or 2, at no cost to him in exchange for an honest (but thoughtful) critique and any points he may be able to offer her. It's always worked out well and some of the ladies I've worked with are now doing so well for the,selves. I feel like a proud mother hen!



Unfortunately this industry is much like the restaurant industry where people vote with their feet. That is, if the customer didn't like the restaurant, they'd never go back, leaving the restaurant management wondering why the place is so empty. Fortunately for the restaurant industry however, there are consultants and books one can refer to in order to improve one's business and to learn about the pitfalls to avoid.

I'm not so sure if there are similar sources of information for SPs just starting out in the business. It seems most girls improve through word of mouth with other SPs or they just learn on the fly. But it's such a shame to have to reinvent the wheel each time. It would be nice for young SPs to have some sort of experienced mentor or madame they could learn from. In that sense, starting with an agency may be a good place to begin even though they may be giving up a good 60% to the house. It's much like an apprentice cook who may work at a restaurant for very little (even for free) just to learn from a great chef and how a business is properly run. Even though working for an agency has its own problems, it seems to me a better scenario than working for some pimp or handler. While a lot of new girls have the looks, service, and attitude to become an SP, I think very few have the business acumen.

As a client, I too vote with my feet. If a girl's breath smelled of cigarettes, if her incall was dirty, or if her pussy stank, I wouldn't tell her. I just wouldn't repeat. It seems rude to me to tell a girl after a session that she had bad breath. The irony is that if someone doesn't tell her, how would she know? How would she get feedback on how to improve her business? And it's not just negative things. There are more positive things that can make things better for clients: a glass of water to start, fresh fluffy towels, a variety of condoms. These are minor, but nice touches. And clients do make note of them.

PERB is one of the few resources where SPs can get good insight into what makes for a good experience for a client. And PERB is one of the few places where clients can give anonymous feedback on their experience to an SP without having to do so in person. Of course, reviews aren't always perfect. I think sometimes they can be a little too harsh and damning to the point where an SPs business is seriously harmed. But I've learned to write critical reviews in a way that is still beneficial to other pooners yet not overtly damaging to the SP. It takes some practice.

I think many new SPs can learn much from a client who's been seeing girls for over a decade. What do they like? What don't they like? What to avoid? Even though I haven't been seeing SPs for very long myself, I could tell within the first five minutes of an encounter how well the session is going to turn out just by the way the girl greets me and by the condition of the incall. This is valuable information that SPs can sometimes only get from boards like PERB. I think that's what makes eclipca's original post so valuable to SPs and clients both. While experienced SPs may find "My take on the hobby..." posts condescending, I think newer SPs would be wise to take note. To ignore such posts would be at their own peril. Just take it with a grain of salt.

S
 

Cami Parker

Beautiful Blonde Dream Girl
Mar 7, 2013
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www.camiparker.ca
Well, as much as I'd love that type of info, I'd never I quire. I find that to be tacky. I get annoyed when the restaurant makes me fill out those things but do so as a courtesy. I don't want to annoy my clients lol besides, I know whatever I do is great because not only do they say so but they come back again and again, so I don't really NEED to ask. As for your other question I kind of have a bit of insight into that in my post above.



You can. I've traded emails with most of the ladies i've seen, at least the ones i enjoyed. Only one asked me after what i liked, what she could do different, and what my perfect scenario would be. Shouldn't be much of a surprise she's my atf.

Also good points above by superman. How are new girls to know if they are providing a good session or not? If they have not visited a top quality sp themselves, (or had some hands on training with one) they could very well think they are providing A+ service when they are not. Do sp's ever visit each other? Trade for trade so to speak?
 
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