My Challenge to Pooners: Help for Nadia!

[love.lots]

By now, most of you are aware of the tragedy Nadia recently went through. While I have never met her myself, I'm sure everyone was touched by the story. While we wait for the short arm of the law to deal with these vermin, Nadia needs our help NOW!

At a risk of sounding cliche, it's time to step up and show how "real men" act in situations like this. So my challenge to you is this: match my pledge; give up one pooning session and forward the funds to Nadia.

I typically see a lady once or twice a week at about $300 per, so this week I have told my regular lady we're off, and the $300 goes to Nadia. You'll see a few details soon on how funds can be securely deposited for her. Doesn't matter if you frequent AMPs once a month, $500+ Indys every week, or even if you can only spare $10 or $20. This lady needs our help, and more than just well wishes (although those are definitely necessary).

And if you think you can't donate, just read again what happened to her...I would only wish that on the people who did this to her.

My sincere thanks, especially to the ladies who have already been involved (Izzy, etc.).
LL

 

[Irresistible Isabelle]

I like the direction Miss*Bijou is thinking.
But in order to keep our unanimity.
I suggest we open a trust fund account named "Nadia's Recovery Fund" at a bank of Nadia's choice.
And post the account # here on Perb's.
I we can make donation in "cash" to that account.
That way Nadia gets the help she needs and we maintain our unanimity.
I don't live to far from Nadia, I could coordinate with Miss*Bijou in setting this up for Nadia.
Let me know if you would like me to help.

Get well soon Nadia.

YDD came up with a great idea. Set up a bank account for her and people can deposit cash at they convenience, anonymously.

I did some calling and it looks like the only way to set up an account with a Title (Nadia's Fund or such) is to set up a business account.

We can set up the account and transfer it to Nadia's name, so in the mean time it would be best to have 2+ co-signers so people know there is no scam being run.

Thanks LL for issuing this challenge. I think it's a great idea.

 

[Irresistible Isabelle]

My position

This is what I wrote elsewhere and some of it refers to matters not mentioned here but I felt it was best to clarify my position especially with regard to donations etc.

I would like to clarify my position on all of this.

I know Nadia, but I can't say we are tight. We've gone for lunch and have spoken numerous times for hours on end. We are on a first name basis, but not last name. BUT we lost touch when she retired and I have not spoken to her since this has happened, but nor has she posted since I emailed her my phone # and offers of assistance so it's likely she doesn't know to get in touch nor does she have my new number.

From what I know of her, she doesn't socialize much with the other SP's so I don't know how much of a rock-solid sisterhood support network she has. That is why I am stepping up and offering to help, because I do know her.

I feel I know her well enough that I am confident that what she said happened, really happened, and I am more than happy to spend my time and money helping her. That being said I can only say that I know her to be a wonderful, honest, considerate person who's greatest care in the world is for the welfare of her daughter. She is not greedy or money hungry. She's not a shopaholic, a gambler or a drug user. We've had many conversations about why we are in this industry and our goals and she seems to be a genuine person and I can smell bullshit a mile away. I trust her.

But that being said I would never expect anyone one else to unconditionally believe me or her based on what we write on a message board. There have been many times that scams have been run and I can fully understand some people's hesitation. Everyone should do what they feel comfortable with.

Some have already made cash donations to me in person to hold in trust for her with the full knowledge that it will be returned should she either turn it down or if it is a scam.

I am hoping to get in touch with her over the weekend (have tried all options available including contacting relevant police departments to pass on my info, but everything is closed until monday). If she gets in touch, which I assume she will do knowing her then...

On monday, with her either her permission and a co-signer or with her, we'll set up a business account with the name Nadia's Fund so that people can make anonymous cash deposits.

If she feels comfortable with me acting in this role on her behalf, I will continue to do so. I will report what information needs to be reported ie: have I personally seen the police report, and will not say I have to anything I have not. If Nadia does not want my involvement she'll have a public apology from me for speaking out of place.

No one is obligated to do anything. No one should feel pressured to do anything. If at some point whatever evidence or hearsay is presented that you feel is compelling enough to put your faith in her story's trust, please consider offering some assistance. If not, no one would fault you, in fact no one would know or not know who donated what.

Regarding the media, personally I feel it is not necessary to report and think it would be more respectful of them to NOT report the story. Given the severity of the attacks I think it would be offensive to report as it would serve a permanent reminder of the attack and it doesn't need to be out there for public consumption. Given the fact that she is an escort and these were work related crimes, I wouldn't want the jury pool tainted with "But she's just an escort, it was probably a bad trick" sentiments building up for months before the trial. From what I know from other what other providers have said vice has said to them, if at all possible, the work situation and her profession are down played as much as possible in the legal system to avoid people discounting her as less than any other woman BECAUSE she was "working." I think this is the fair and correct path to take.

 

[Cousin Vinni]

YDD came up with a great idea. Set up a bank account for her and people can deposit cash at they convenience, anonymously.

I did some calling and it looks like the only way to set up an account with a Title (Nadia's Fund or such) is to set up a business account.

We can set up the account and transfer it to Nadia's name, so in the mean time it would be best to have 2+ co-signers so people know there is no scam being run.

Thanks LL for issuing this challenge. I think it's a great idea.

Are you sure you can open a business account without proper business registation documents? I don't think so. You can't open one with just the two of you walking into a branch.

With two pieces of ID, you can open a personal account (with two people signing). Once you have the account number, those depositing can still do it without knowing the name of the account holder.

 

[Irresistible Isabelle]

oh

Are you sure you can open a business account without proper business registation documents? I don't think so. You can't open one with just the two of you walking into a branch.

With two pieces of ID, you can open a personal account (with two people signing). Once you have the account number, those depositing can still do it without knowing the name of the account holder.

Thanks CV. I was going based on what a customer service rep from a bank told me over the phone. All of this info is new to me so if you have any advice or can send me any links to good information please feel free to PM me.

Thanks

 

[Ghostwheel1969]

I'm in!

By now, most of you are aware of the tragedy Nadia recently went through. While I have never met her myself, I'm sure everyone was touched by the story. While we wait for the short arm of the law to deal with these vermin, Nadia needs our help NOW!

At a risk of sounding cliche, it's time to step up and show how "real men" act in situations like this. So my challenge to you is this: match my pledge; give up one pooning session and forward the funds to Nadia.

I typically see a lady once or twice a week at about $300 per, so this week I have told my regular lady we're off, and the $300 goes to Nadia. You'll see a few details soon on how funds can be securely deposited for her. Doesn't matter if you frequent AMPs once a month, $500+ Indys every week, or even if you can only spare $10 or $20. This lady needs our help, and more than just well wishes (although those are definitely necessary).

And if you think you can't donate, just read again what happened to her...I would only wish that on the people who did this to her.

My sincere thanks, especially to the ladies who have already been involved (Izzy, etc.).
LL

Of course I'm in! I'm not only horrified by this, but want to remind everyone that we're a community here.

This is an exclusive community. We don't have commerce with the norms of society. We don't hold conclavity with them sexually, nor would allow ourselves to, as we are our own world. This is our world, and thus, these are our friends.

We need to look after those people in this world. I've never met Nadia. I'd hoped to. But I'd read enough about her that I'd (ironically) put her on my Favourites list to see about an hour before reading her post. It just goes to show how life transcends irony, and can hand you a joker in the deck.

As people who live on the "outside" of the world, we take chances. Luckily, Nadia seems to be a strong, self-concerned and intelligent lady. How many others weren't? I say all PERB's should stand up, stick by her, and help out in any way they can.

Without knowing her, but knowing what was thought of her, I think we should all give what we can to acknowledge our debt to her, if not her spirit, then to strength she has shown.

I for one salute you, Nadia. You can call me a friend, though we've never met. I'll help in any way I can. And remember: We all love you!

Cheers to you,
Ghostwheel

 

[stryker]

I'd be happy to help out,,but first,,,,,,,,,,,,,

-Date of said offence
-Police file No#,,,,,,RCMP/VPD/other

 

[Krustee]

By now, most of you are aware of the tragedy Nadia recently went through. While I have never met her myself, I'm sure everyone was touched by the story. While we wait for the short arm of the law to deal with these vermin, Nadia needs our help NOW!

At a risk of sounding cliche, it's time to step up and show how "real men" act in situations like this. So my challenge to you is this: match my pledge; give up one pooning session and forward the funds to Nadia.

I typically see a lady once or twice a week at about $300 per, so this week I have told my regular lady we're off, and the $300 goes to Nadia. You'll see a few details soon on how funds can be securely deposited for her. Doesn't matter if you frequent AMPs once a month, $500+ Indys every week, or even if you can only spare $10 or $20. This lady needs our help, and more than just well wishes (although those are definitely necessary).

And if you think you can't donate, just read again what happened to her...I would only wish that on the people who did this to her.

My sincere thanks, especially to the ladies who have already been involved (Izzy, etc.).
LL

Thanks CV. I was going based on what a customer service rep from a bank told me over the phone. All of this info is new to me so if you have any advice or can send me any links to good information please feel free to PM me.

Thanks

I'd be happy to help out,,but first,,,,,,,,,,,,,

-Date of said offence
-Police file No#,,,,,,RCMP/VPD/other

I would be more than happy to donate $500 to Nadia if she or Isabelle is willing to send me a PM with the details which Stryker listed above (-Date of said offence -Police file No#,,,,,,RCMP/VPD/other)

My SP is very moved by the event & has offered to help her as well.

 

[Yaba Daba Do]

YDD came up with a great idea. Set up a bank account for her and people can deposit cash at they convenience, anonymously.

I did some calling and it looks like the only way to set up an account with a Title (Nadia`s Fund or such) is to set up a business account.

We can set up the account and transfer it to Nadia`s name, so in the mean time it would be best to have 2+ co-signers so people know there is no scam being run.

Thanks LL for issuing this challenge. I think it`s a great idea.

Isabelle brings up a very valid point.
In order for this to work and keep things accountable.
The account needs a trustee & co-signer/s.
Basically it will act as a "Recovery Fund Committee"
That will report back to this forum bi-weekly on the status of Nadia`s recovery & financial situation.
It will oversee, that Nadia`s bills and necessary needs are covered for her and her daughter during her time of recovery.
I think it is important to keep in mind that this is a "Recovery Fund" and should not become a get rich scheme or fraud of any sort.

I will check with my bank on Monday, to see what is all entailed in order to set this type of account up.

Miss Bijou has offered her help, as per in this post.
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=81008

Indy Isabelle also has offered to her help in this matter.

Both of these lady have been in the biz for quite a while.
And both have impeccable reputations.

I also offer my services to help in this matter.

I think this would be an appropriate committee.
To oversee that Nadia and her daughter is taken care of during her time of recovery.

I would like to thank all the people that has offered to donate to Nadia`s Recovery Fund.

Hopefully we can have this up and running on Monday.

 

[Irresistible Isabelle]

I have spoken with Nadia at great length tonight and she is profoundly moved, and thankful for all of the support offered.

On monday she and I will be setting up an account for her.

Thank you all so much for your support.

 

[InTheBum]

I'd be happy to help out,,but first,,,,,,,,,,,,,

-Date of said offence
-Police file No#,,,,,,RCMP/VPD/other

YES! Please post these details...

Also, I want to see some SP's step up to bat and give Nadia the equivalent one day's pay. So for girls charging $300+ per hr. THey should be giving a minimum of 1200 cash.

 

[summerbreeze]

just a thought

This is a good idea and I am sure there will be many supporters, good for all of you!!!

Just a a thought to pass on to all, it would be ever so much better if this was done with absolutely no strings attached and that the receiver felt no obligations whatsoever.

In effect, this is being done to repay what we have all received from time to time, unexpected help from others. (I hope most of us have received)

Most likely the receiver will someday do likewise and the books will be balanced in there own way.

She will probably be under enough emotional stress without feeling there is some burden being passed on out of pity, this is being done because it is the right thing to do and we live in countries which believe in this type of thing. It is a foundation of our society and our belief system.

Besides, according to Emerson, those who give, always receive back 20 times what the give.

 

[love.lots]

Thanks, good point...

Thanks SB, I never thought of that, I just assumed the help would be given without expectations (which I believe it will be in almost all cases). Good idea to clarify though!

 

[BS Detector]

YES! Please post these details...

Also, I want to see some SP's step up to bat and give Nadia the equivalent one day's pay. So for girls charging $300+ per hr. THey should be giving a minimum of 1200 cash.

Buddy!!!! Where are you getting all of these ideas????
Are the ladies telling you how much YOU have to donate, in fact are they even telling you that you have to donate at all?????
Who are you to tell them they have to donate and how much? Like I said before, if you want to help, then help.

If you do not want to help, DON'T. The lady has been through enough from her attack. She does not need to add to it by trying to prove anything to you or me. She has not even asked for help. Move on already if you doubt her. Not sure why you feel the need to make her prove anything on every thread that presents the opportunity to you?

Thanks SB, I never thought of that, I just assumed the help would be given without expectations (which I believe it will be in almost all cases). Good idea to clarify though!

You can't make that kind of assumption here. Sooner or later someone will suggest it be a loan.

 

[perbertt]

How about LENDING her the money?

10K a month i no peanuts. She can pay the loan back when she is able to work.....

 

[totravel]

Nadia was one of my 2-3 regular SP's I've been seeing since July. I last saw her Dec 30th, just before her life became a living hell.

I had tried to contact her Jan 12th to set up another appt, but only got VM.
I had been expecting her family obligations to make our Sunday get-togethers difficult, so wasn't too alarmed, and sent her an email asking her to let me know when her circumstances allowed.

I heard nothing until I saw her first post asking for help from other SP's in apprehending the accused rapist-conspirators.

I am as shocked and moved as anyone else at what she went through, and very relieved she survived.

I will be donating some of the funds I would have given her anyway, had we still been able to have our regular upcoming sessions. Should she decide to get back in this business after she recuperates (I certainly wouldn't blame her if she doesn't) I know she will pay me back with free sessions then.

 

[bcneil]

I have just got back from donating $500 to a local shelther for abused women, and their families.
The ones that don't make $10,000 a month.
It felt great!

 

[bcneil]

Yu make it sound like a crime to make $10k a month before one gets raped and is no longer ABLE to work at all. Trust me, there are a lot of people who do not make money but are totally capable of getting jobs and choose not to. Don't blame a person who chooses to work and not scam the system, just because she makes more than you, or "too much" (whatever amount you deem that to be).

My God, I can't belive all the envy this is bringing out notto mention the dark side of human nature but then again, stupid me for thinking that way.

EXCUSE ME!
I read all these threads, and thought of donating.
I sat down and thought about it, there are 1000's of raped woman in the city
that are in far worse situations. I decided that is where my money would go.
Get a life!

 

[perbertt]

I have just got back from donating $500 to a local shelther for abused women, and their families.
The ones that don't make $10,000 a month.
It felt great!

Yes, there are women raising children on welfare, but those ones don't provide pussy for the donations, so the guys here are not interested in helping them.

 

[bcneil]

Good for you. You have that choice. So why the need to mention the $10K shot. Just mention that you donated to a shelter and leave it at that. YOu'd look like a hereo. With your post, you look like a jealous little kid. So who needs to get a life lol?

Talk about dark side of humanity. A raped women leaves her abusive spouse to live in a shelther with her kids, and you talk about her scamming the system? And how she should get a job?

Are you even for real?